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Forest fires
« on: August 06, 2009, 01:48:03 am »
It is getting pretty bad around here.  Over 1.5 million acres have burnt in Alaska this year alone.  We just had the driest July on record in this area, and we are now almost surrounded by forest fires.  The smoke is so thick, it looks like a dense fog outside.  We have ash on the car that looks about like a very light dusting of snow.

They have shutdown all woodcutting on State and Borough property, due to the extreme fire danger.  They posted this message:  http://www.co.fairbanks.ak.us/HotTopics/2009_Fires_And_Other_News/PressReleases/Press%20Release%20_8_05_09_01.pdf

They have even moved the air quality warning to Very Unhealthy, which is the second highest on the scale.

I tell you what...  next time I hear some EPA goon talk about wanting to shut down my wood stove that is more efficient than my boiler, it will be real difficult not to knock his teeth in.  The good news is, the local Fair starts on Friday and it always rains during the Fair.  Here is hoping the trend continues.

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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2009, 02:45:32 am »
Warbird, in case you're not aware, most fire info is placed on www.inciweb.org

I don't know which ones are in your area, but you might want to try to look them up.  They are listed by state and name and the site includes the latest maps, road closures, etc.



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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2009, 10:00:16 am »
The town of Lillooet just over an hour east of us,evacuated 2000 people a few days ago because a fire is threatening the town.They lit a backfire a couple nights ago.

This link tells some of the story and has some really good pictures in the photo folder.

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And another link closer to home here in Pemberton

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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2009, 10:28:59 am »
Thanks, Stamp.  I didn't know about that site but do have all the local state gov't sites.

Paul, I hope they get those fire under control soon.  2 of our fires are each about 20 miles away from town.  As far as I know, we have only had to evacuate a few folks.  Looks like the fires in your area pose more immediate threat.

*edit*  It is raining this morning!!  Thank God!  Hopefully it is raining over the fires, too.

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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2009, 02:03:22 pm »
Yes, rain is good.

I'm in Boise ID right now on my way to the North Fork Complex Fires in Ukiah, OR.  It is raining in Boise right now and it sounds as if it's supposed to rain in Ukiah later today.  If it's significant enough amounts of rain it will help with fire control.  Unfortunately, often times the rain amount is too small and along with it often comes lightning and high winds which cause more problems for fire fighters.

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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2009, 09:35:15 pm »
We had 30 plus small lighting started fires in our area over the last week but none of them got very big.  We had three thunderstorms go through over about 4 days that started all these but each storm also dropped 5 or 10 minutes of good rain each time so really helped.  300 firefighters living down on our high school football field and a heli center down at our airport.

I think our biggest was around 30 acres, bigger one over by Lake Chelan was about 600 acres, inciweb.org says a single fire up near Fairbanks, AK is over 340,000 acres.  Have to keep things in perspective!
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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2009, 12:59:32 pm »
Thankfully, we've continued to get a bit of rain and it does appear that Autumn is rolling in.  The smoke is mostly gone right now, with just a hint of smoky smell in the air.  At its worst, I could barely see past the end of my fenced yard!

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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2009, 02:02:53 pm »
Warbird, I read the report on that fire in the link that Stamp posted, and it appeared that they have been just letting that fire burn for TSI purposes.  If that's really the case, the best you could hope for would be a wind shift, which you must have gotten. ;)
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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2009, 08:13:56 pm »
Indeed.  No wind, or wind from the proper direction, plus the rain/humidity knocking the fires down some has done the trick.

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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2009, 09:33:47 pm »
I just got back from a 19 day tour of fighting forest fires in BC . There are firefighters from all over Canada helping out once we get our mandtory 2 days off we my be sent back to do an other 19 day tour .We were glad that we could help and looking forward to going back.

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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2009, 10:18:09 pm »
I just got back from a 19 day tour of fighting forest fires in BC . There are firefighters from all over Canada helping out once we get our mandtory 2 days off we my be sent back to do an other 19 day tour .We were glad that we could help and looking forward to going back.


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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2009, 10:56:38 pm »
Glad you made it home safely!  I have a couple of buddies who fight forest fires, too.  Do you know how many acres in Canada have burnt this year?

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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2009, 05:03:13 pm »
I do not know the total for Canada ,but I know not much has burnt in Ontario as it has rained so much here it would be hard to get a fire from a lighting strike as the fine fuels are not capeable of igiting .BC had 700 fires burning when we were there ,we were on a fire at Tweedmere provincial park it was a very small but it grew to over 1400 hecters by the next day ,we did save the small ski chalet and the building that housed there tow machine ,we set up water sprinklers to protect the two buildings ,waiting orders to go back for an other 19 days .No I have not been home since I picked up the mill hope to use it in the fall .

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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2009, 12:59:08 am »
Hey, firefighter. Thanks for your help. Much appreciated!

Warbird: From April 1 until yesterday in British Columbia, there were just over 2,400 fires started (half by lightning, half by people -- usually through stupidity), and 121,300 hectares have burned. That's about 300,000 acres, or 470 square miles. Right now there are 700-750 fires burning.

At the beginning of last week we were seeing about 200 new fires a day, but it was down to 20 per day at the start of this week. It's definitely cooling down.
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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2009, 01:47:17 am »
Glad to hear it is cooling down over there.  The major fires surrounding Fairbanks are dying now, thanks to some cool temperatures and that rain we got.  It actually frosted last night.  I was both happy and sad to see it, as it is very early to be freezing already.  However, it sure is nice not to be breathing all that smoke.

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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2009, 04:33:41 am »
Haven't had much for fires here in NB for at least two years. I know a couple burnt down in NS, one pretty big near Halifax in the spring. It's rained so much except the last two weeks that fire risk was low to moderate. I have heard that a bunch of fire fighters recently left NS for fire fighting out west. A lot of the fire fighting here in NB, by air, is done by Forest Protection Limited. They also taxi fire fighters around.

http://www.forestprotectionlimited.com/english/business/fire.html


The province used to maintain air strips in remote bush country for years, but stopped that probably 20  years ago. I know of a couple old abandoned runways. They were also used for spraying budworm, which hasn't been required on any large scale since 1993.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2009, 03:09:12 pm »
I've been reading about burning water in automobiles in the Alternate Methods and Solutions topic.  It's beginning to concern me a bit that these guys are saying that water will burn.  Heck, it's been raining so much here that we can't even walk on the front yard, the driveway is flooded and the roof leaks with no chance to fix it .  If this stuff catches fire, we are going to be in big trouble.  Sheesh!!  There goes another big bolt of lightning.  Will Lightning catch it on fire?  :-\
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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2009, 05:44:36 pm »
In the end, it's all gonna burn anyway.  No need to worry about it.  :)

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Re: Forest fires
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2009, 09:28:51 pm »
Warbird,

Yup, it's all gonna burn at some point.  The Santa Cruz fire is about 10 to 15 miles from me.  The area thats burning has not burned in over 60 years.  Some of the area is private land that could have been logged over the years...  The real serious tree huggers have stopped any tree cutting.  EPA regulations have imposed so many restrictions on control burns that it's nearly impossible to do that.  Heaven for bid we use any type of equipment to grade, take care of drainage issues or clear along fire roads prior to these fires.  I tell ya, the people on the government payroll that come up with this stuff...need a great big boot.

No homes lost yet.

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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2009, 02:46:58 am »
Thanks JD.  We are doing well now.  Cooled off a whole lot, winter is right around the corner, and it has been raining.  You stay safe, too.  I hope that Santa Cruz fire doesn't get any closer to you.