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Started by Banjo picker, May 20, 2009, 08:55:08 AM

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olyman


How about who's using what and what they do or do not like about it.  I tried the search and it ain't workin. :(  Tim
[/quote]  go to northern hydraulics. they have a sharpener that looks a lot like the oregon one,for 90 small ones. works great--have one. dont hand file anymore. less im hurting in the woods.

Tim/South

I use an old Foley Bellsaw grinder.
I grew up not knowing there was anything other than a hand file. When Dad bought the bar mounted file guild I thought we had gone space age.

I really like the old Foley. The chain seat is on an upward angle. The adjustments are quick and simple. I have not compared it to the newer models so I do not know their features.
I have a Foley Sharp All that we never have used. It also has a chain sharpening attachment. I have not figured out how that critter works yet.  :P

Tony

Quote from: pineywoods on May 20, 2009, 09:03:36 AM
Have one of them cheap harbor freight jobs. ($29.95 special) mostly plastic and does have some limitations, but it works just fine for me. Use it 5 times and it's paid for. I don't run a chain until it's so dull it takes a lot of grinding to get it sharp.
Quote from: PineNut on May 20, 2009, 11:17:31 PM
I have a sharpener from Harbor Freight. Not great but it gets the job done if I have do a serious job. But most of the time I would rather not have to pull the chain so it doesn't get used too much.

          I'm in with the Piney boys. El-cheapo here Harbor Freight, haven't used it enough to pass judgement yet ::) ::) ::)

                                      Tony   8)
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Tim L

I've got a speed sharp from Baileys and love it.
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bandmiller2

I have had the Oregon type for 33 yrs. still use it,also have a silvey square grinder,I file too.The big advantage to grinding is the chain gets removed and the bar groove cleaned,if a fella just files he tends to not remove the chain and clean the saw, just touch up.A well ground chain touched up in the woods with a file once or so is my prefered method.I use the chain down to the nubbins,short teeth a great for pine.Frank C.
A man armed with common sense is packing a big piece

Banjo picker

Well it would seem i  have some research to do as the responses are wide and varied.  Harbor Freight has the lead , but I think that large numbers of units out there is the reason.  I won't get but one chance, so I hope I pick one that I will be happy with. ;D  Tim
Never explain, your friends don't need it, and your enemies won't believe you any way.

chucker

 picked up my bench top elec. at northern toolhttps://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=position"> Note:Please read the Forestry Forum's postion on this company  for 150.00 couple years ago works just fine if you have a hand full of chains to do !!! after hiting the line on the tooth,there still good for knocking down stumps..
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nmurph

i bought an Oregon 511a from ebay for not much more than the Bailey's knock-off, and i didn't have to worry about rigging it (shims) to perform consistantly. it works well. i really like being able to take old chains which are out of spec and getting them cutting like new.

madhatte

My shop just got one of the cheapo Harbor Freight jobs, and while I too am a hand-filer, I will definitely be able to salvage more of the badly-rocked loops now than I used to.  It's kind of chintzy, but it does the trick putting everything back to true and even. 

Banjo picker

Thanks for all the response --BUT would someone explain in laymans terms the difference between the 30 dollar and the 300 + dollar units.   ;D  Tim
Never explain, your friends don't need it, and your enemies won't believe you any way.

bandmiller2

B picker,spring for a silvey grinder,put a mirror behind it so you can see a big poop eating grin everytime you use it.They are pricey but are built the way American machinery used to be built,and will serve you for several lifetimes.Frank C.
A man armed with common sense is packing a big piece

mike_van

I'd have to say [like most stuff] the chaing kai chek  models will be poorly made out of cheaper material. The pricier models would last a lifetime, even used  commercially.
I was the smartest 16 year old I ever knew.

Rocky_J

The cheap units have more slop so they aren't as accurate.

ENTS

B Picker,

Look at it this way, you can pick up a really elcheapo, POC, made in china, PLASTIC, flimsy, sloppy banjo.  Yes, you can tune it, play a tune on it, make some music, but it just doesn't sound right.  And eventually, it'll fall apart.  Now you spend some $$s on a fine instrument and it just plays better, resonates just right, holds tune, easy to play, makes you smile just to pick it up, can't wait to play it, can't put it down once you start playing it, pass it on to your kids, etc. etc. etc.

Maybe it's the German in me but I believe you get what you pay for.  Not to say those chinese grinders can't be made to do a good job, thousands of them are out there and their owners seem to be happy.  I have a MAXX.  It's a good grinder but as BM2 mentioned, I'd love to have that "...big poop eating grin..." on my face with a Silvey.  Not all can afford them, they are REALLY expensive but do the job like that expensive banjo plays. 

Not much help here in this post but I wish you luck in your search.  BTW, I rarely use the MAXX since I file by hand (unless I try trenching with my chain saw).

Later,
Fred Henry,  Over Worked, Under Paid

Devon

If you are interested in a decent grinder, I would recommend a new Simington swing arm.  They are $60-80 cheaper than the Silvey, you can buy it directly from the manufacturer, it will grind both round & square, and you can purchase a raker grinder attachment that is pretty cool.  The Simington has more adjustment than the Silvey also.


Banjo picker

Man o man ENTS  you do know how to make a point.  I have already gone on the Silvey site and looked at their products.  Wish i could see them in person. 

Devon I will chech out the Simington would be nice to grind both.  Tim
Never explain, your friends don't need it, and your enemies won't believe you any way.

ENTS

Devon,

If I'm not mistaken, and someone will correct me if I'm wrong, Simington grinders were not manufactured for some time.  They just recently came back into production.  Nothing but great reviews from what I could find.  What I have not been able to do is find a web site for them and/or prices.  Got any clues here?


Later,
Fred Henry,  Over Worked, Under Paid

Devon

ENTS,

I've heard that Simington & Silvey got involved in a legal dispute.  The Silvey swingarm is supposedly a real close copy of an early version of the Simington swingarm............many parts will readily interchange.  I do not know how everything was resolved, but Silvey seems to have a decent dealer network and Simington has none (that I know of). 

Simington does not have a website and I don't know of any retailers selling their products.  There phone number is 1-888-247-6702.  He quoted me either $769 or $789, (can't remember) for a swingarm grinder (model 451C).

Thanks,
Devon

Al_Smith

 I use a Dremel type on rocked chains but usually hand file .

You can run a chain until the top plate is worn smaller than the kerf .They slow down though once you get to the last rivet .At that point ,resharpen,hang them on a nail for stump cuts,fence rows etc then toss them if you rock them . If not you end up like me with a bucket full of worn out chains you have no idea what to do with .

I suppose a person could cut the top plates and use them for milling if so desired at that point . Chainsaw milling though in my case is my least desirable use of a chainsaw .

ENTS

Devon, thanks for the info.  Sure wish I could sell my MAXX and put the money toward a Simington or Silvey.  Maybe I'd go back to bench grinding.

Later,
Fred Henry,  Over Worked, Under Paid

ENTS

Here's a link comparing the elcheapo to the real thing (compliments of Baileys)

http://www.baileysonline.com/PDF/grinder_comparison.pdf

Fred Henry,  Over Worked, Under Paid

Banjo picker

Thanks for that link.  That 1.4 mm thing helps explain why the teeth on one side don't last as long  when I use the sharpening service in town.  I thought he was just grinding them down so I would buy chain sooner.   :D  Tim
Never explain, your friends don't need it, and your enemies won't believe you any way.

RANGERDALEXP

I have the one from northern toolhttps://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=position"> Note:Please read the Forestry Forum's postion on this company and found that you can't beat it for the price, It is an exact copy of the Oregon 511a which i used in the past and it is almost made as well out of the box. You do need to to about a half hour of some fine tuning to it and after that it is a great machine. It works as well as the $350.00 Oregon model. After i started using it i did give my Harbor Freight one to a friend of mine. I am thinking of a second northern one so i can stop swapping stones out from the 3/16 to the 1/8 for different chains. look for them on sale for around $89.00 at northern toolhttps://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=position"> Note:Please read the Forestry Forum's postion on this company. 

Tree tech

Hi there, i bought an alaskan mill, in the uk, none of the angles are true,depth imposible to set! Hand sharpen for best finish!

Jeff

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