Anybody Ever Build An Easel?

Burlkraft · March 19, 2009, 09:09:58 AM

I have been asked to build a windmill style easel ??? ???
I looked for some plans online or even just some dimensions to no avail.

Help :-\

beenthere · March 19, 2009, 09:45:15 AM

How are the travelers doin?

Pics of such a beast on

http://www.dickblick.com/products/windmill-revolving-easel/

This what you have in mind?

bedway · March 19, 2009, 10:00:28 AM

I just completed one a few weeks ago for a customer. bedway

Burlkraft · March 19, 2009, 10:18:19 PM

Kent,
That is the one Jill saw and wants me to build. Gonna buy the clamps from them, but she want me to make the rest.
I think if I had a plan or a better picture of it I could make the rotating bracket in the machine shop at work. The thing is huge and I have never seen one in real life let alone used one :

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Her nephew is graduating this year and is taking art in college and she wants this as a graduation present. I think she should have waited at least another month before she asked for this. :D

Bedway,
Did you build one of these ???

Got any pictures or plans ???

Radar67 · March 19, 2009, 10:23:05 PM

Steve, just use the axle spindle and hub for a boat trailer for the spinning part.

Burlkraft · March 19, 2009, 10:30:12 PM

Quote from: Radar67 on March 19, 2009, 10:23:05 PM
Steve, just use the axle spindle and hub for a boat trailer for the spinning part.

Hey....That's a good idea. ;D ;) I knew you's guy's would be of some help

We haven't sold that axle we have on special yet, mebby I could rob one offa there :D :D

Let's keep them good ideas rollin' in.......Better yet, Any volunteers ??? ;D

I got a desk to finish yet!

isawlogs · March 19, 2009, 11:19:50 PM

Steve if you find plans for that easel canyou let me know from where , I really would like to build one for my daughter . She is finishing her baccalaureate in arts this spring and I was not sure what to get her ... This would be just the thing. Some have built a car out of wood called it da Splinter , I can give an easel a try and call it a woosel . :P ;D

ScottAR · March 20, 2009, 12:52:03 AM

Use the axle hub off a 4x4 and you can lock it in any position.

Looking at the example, Put some real casters on it.
Those in the picture are wimpy.

SwampDonkey · March 20, 2009, 08:43:56 PM

An easel I have pictured in my mind is on a tripod. What in tarnation you building? Mount a Lazy Susan on the thing and spin away. :D ;D

I like your new shield beenthere. That Jeff sure likes to torment the tormented. :D

beenthere · March 20, 2009, 09:03:06 PM

Shield?

Found it... that be clever :D (does it come in green? )

I googled "hardware windmill easel" and found some of the parts available. In particular, the corner clamps.
Wondered if a TV lazy susan or smaller lazy susan hardware would work for the spinner/rotator hub? A lock of some kind would seem to be needed.

Reddog · March 20, 2009, 10:23:46 PM

Quote from: Burlkraft on March 19, 2009, 10:30:12 PM
We haven't sold that axle we have on special yet, mebby I could rob one offa there :D :D

Let's keep them good ideas rollin' in.......Better yet, Any volunteers ??? ;D

Send the axle over, I can weld something up to look like Officer Beenthere's picture. ;D
Warning, you may need a fork truck to move it. ;)

Jeff · March 20, 2009, 10:58:40 PM

Burlkraft shoulda kept his mouth shut. Shortly after he posted, Rocky sent me a message to take the axle off of the Truck Part City website because Eggie's sold it.

Burlkraft · March 21, 2009, 12:51:45 AM

Quote from: beenthere on March 20, 2009, 09:03:06 PM
Shield?

Found it... that be clever :D (does it come in green? )

I googled "hardware windmill easel" and found some of the parts available. In particular, the corner clamps.
Wondered if a TV lazy susan or smaller lazy susan hardware would work for the spinner/rotator hub? A lock of some kind would seem to be needed.

We were figgerin' on buyin' the corner clamps.
The lazy susan is what I'm plannin' on buildin' only it's gonna be indexable to lock say every 10° or so with a spring loaded lock.

Donk,

A tripod easel is what I was thinkin' but I am as out of touch as you are. The one she wants me to build looks like it could go inta space. I even found one online that's magnesium and cabon fiber. This one's gonna be curly maple.

You think WasHere's really tormented ??? ??? ???

Gary_C · March 21, 2009, 03:43:57 AM

When I saw the title of this thread, I thought you were asking about building an Edsel and I wondered what you were up to now. ???

But then I see you are talking about axles. :

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I hope it works for you. You could get one of those Edsel grills to go on your Easel too. ;D ;D ;D

Gary (the guy that has been without sleep too long) :D :D :D

SwampDonkey · March 21, 2009, 06:45:40 AM

Quote from: Burlkraft on March 21, 2009, 12:51:45 AM
Donk,

You think WasHere's really tormented ??? ??? ???

Nope I was thinking of a member that referred to him as the forum security. Maybe that's who you meant to? ;D :D

Jeff · March 21, 2009, 08:33:13 AM

I dont think I would use a lazy susan, not stout enough, but you could certainly use a swivel seat base like you can get for boat fishing seats. They would work good.

http://store.rkmarina.com/rkmarina/details.php?ITEM=2975020

SwampDonkey · March 21, 2009, 08:54:09 AM

How rugged is this thing going to be? I built an entertainment centre with a pull out TV drawer with a lazy susan on it that supported a 39" TV. You can get all kinds of sized lazy susans.

Jeff · March 21, 2009, 09:45:22 AM

Lazy susan's are designed for the weight pushing from the top, there is no side subjected on them. The easel's weight with the attached art will all be sideways on the swivel. Those lazy susan bearings wont take it. they will flex open and have the bearings fall out. The swivel like on the boat seats are built heavy because they get subjects to forces in all directions.

SwampDonkey · March 21, 2009, 10:35:38 AM

I guess I've not seen what your building, I don't know what plane that the axis of rotation is on. Vertical, or horizontal? From what Jeff said, I guess horizontal. But even a lazy susan has to take forces other than straight down. Anything spinning has a force directed from centre to the outside. Granted your not going to place something on a lazy susan and spin the heck out of it to see how fast it will rotate. :D

Jeff · March 21, 2009, 10:41:23 AM

Picture turning the lazy susan on edge with the base fastened to something, and the top fastened to your t.v. A large wood framed canvas, plus the weight of that part of the easel and the related clamping devices is quite a lot of torque. Your spinning on a vertical plane, not the Horizontal as with a lazy susan.

SwampDonkey · March 21, 2009, 10:45:28 AM

Yeah, but the axis is horizontal. ;D I know what your saying though. Poor wording on my part in my previous post. ;)

SwampDonkey · March 21, 2009, 11:09:24 AM

I see some lazy susans will take 1000 lb load, but that's straight down of course. But, still, they must be quite rugged I would think. Does it have to be perpetual rotation, or can it be a screw type mechanism that goes from 0 to 360 ° of rotation with a stop at 0 and 360?

beenthere · March 21, 2009, 11:14:59 AM

SD
Look at one at this site. Might help you visualize it.

http://www.dickblick.com/products/windmill-revolving-easel/

SwampDonkey · March 21, 2009, 11:58:47 AM

Ah, thanks. Easy as eating ice cream. All ya need to special order is those brackets, maybe the casters (but they sell them anywhere) and go take a hydraulic cylinder off the screen door or go down to Lowes and pick a new one out of the bin for $10. Then for the turn table I would just get a pipe threaded for 0 to 360 rotation and weld a mount to it and thread a hollow pipe (of slightly wider diameter) and weld mounting plate on that to. Then I would set up a spring loaded mechanism with stops at each 45 ° of rotation. I see all they are using is a couple threaded knobs for stops on the back of the turn table. Heck when do I build and where do I ship? I sure don't see no $1200 involved. ;D

isawlogs · March 21, 2009, 12:43:46 PM

SD ....How much ??? I am short on time and money :-\ So you need make it cheap and quick she finishes midle of April :D

SwampDonkey · March 21, 2009, 12:48:32 PM

I can just see you spit'n on the screen from excitement and typing as fast as all get out to get ahead of Steve. Cheap 'ole curmudgeon. I'm dying laughing here. :D :D

Burlkraft · March 21, 2009, 12:52:47 PM

I was gonna use the lazy susan concept only with a shaft and a caged roller bearing

The thing goes vertical and horizontal

www.dickblick.com

SwampDonkey · March 21, 2009, 01:00:04 PM

Yeah, just incorporate a shaft or column to adjust up and down, hinge to the top of the column/shaft. Sure gripes me to see a great big price on something made from kitchen hardware. :-\

isawlogs · March 21, 2009, 01:36:13 PM

That mean you backing out . ??? :-\

SwampDonkey · March 21, 2009, 02:25:07 PM

:D :D

Fla._Deadheader · March 21, 2009, 02:37:13 PM

If I was gonna build it, as difficult a way as he described, I would back out, too. :

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:D :D

SwampDonkey · March 21, 2009, 02:40:30 PM

Watch where your stepping in the banana patch. ;) ;D

isawlogs · March 21, 2009, 02:53:46 PM

SD , you laid the peels down , mon ami . !!!!

Fla._Deadheader · March 21, 2009, 06:30:18 PM

Speaking of which, I whacked down another Nanner tree, recently, and, I been throwin peels out in the field where I been making a BIG hole.

;D ;D

SwampDonkey · March 21, 2009, 06:40:13 PM

I hope ya slip on one, ya old fart. Well not really. ;D :D

Burlkraft · March 21, 2009, 10:43:52 PM

Quote from: Fla._Deadheader on March 21, 2009, 06:30:18 PM

Speaking of which, I whacked down another Nanner tree, recently, and, I been throwin peels out in the field where I been making a BIG hole. ;D ;D

What ya gonna do with yer big hole?

Saw a sign at the grocery store da udder day and it said there was a world wide shortage of 'nanners.
That's why the ones they had looked like....well...bad 'nanners.

Ya shouldn't be cuttin' em down !! :D :D :D

Marcel...
Do ya want me to make 2 of everything I build?
I can tell ya right now tho.....There ain't nuthin' gonna be done by April :-\

I'm thinkin' of the word belated right now :D :D :D

Jill says they have some of them easles in the art department at the University of Wisconsin where she works. I'm gonna go in and do some measurin' and picture takin'

I'll make a set of plans as there is nuthin' out there on the Internet to be had, even fer a price :-\

SwampDonkey · March 22, 2009, 04:02:41 AM

I think them nanners only bare once, like a corn stalk. They send up another stem off the root to make new nanners. ;)

pigman · March 22, 2009, 08:46:27 AM

SD, them nanners are naked only if you remove the peeling.

;)

SwampDonkey · March 22, 2009, 08:54:52 AM

They gotta go bare to make new nanners. :D

isawlogs · March 22, 2009, 11:00:48 AM

Steve , sorry if I gave you the impression that I wanted you to build it , I only wanted the location of any plans if ever you found some If I did give this impression sorry , it must be in the translation and will be dam carefull next time :-\ SwampDonkey offered to build it , then reconsidered :D
But if you do feel like making doubles by all means go ahead , ;)

SwampDonkey · March 22, 2009, 11:05:31 AM

Oh, I could build it easily enough. Just not the ambition right now, too much jesting maybe. I wanna go cut bushes instead. :D ;)

Steve, I was wondering for the clamps that slide up and down the fan blades, do you plan on figuring some way of fastening some steel along the slide to keep from wearing into the wood? It would also slide smoother. Of course a guy with all the tools can work on those little details. Personally, I don't have the proper tools but a fellow can figure out something. Something like countersinking some screws in some stainless steel or aluminum. Anyone around there with a bone yard full of "stuff"? Aluminum door/window frames, that kinda stuff. :D

isawlogs · March 22, 2009, 11:12:08 PM

I am going to see a drywall lift , might just buy one of those and modify it . Andréa ( my daughter ) she paints fairly large canvasses , I did not see that these where capable of 4'X4' or bigger , and she often paints in these sizes .

http://sherbrooke.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLargeImage?AdId=112411329&img=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.classistatic.com%2Fcps%2Fl%2Fkj%2F09%2F3%2F9%2F494%2Fr5%2F1369mbl_18.jpeg

Aint outa wood , but it might hold up better for what she does , I really dont know I will be looking into it this week :P

Burlkraft · March 23, 2009, 11:34:14 PM

You know what they say...It's just as easy to practice on yours so mine is perfect :D :D :D

If When I do come up with a master plan I'll let ya know.

If When I make the metal mechanical parts I'll make 2 sets. You can then follow my easy directions for the wooden parts ;) ;) ;)

Just doing my part to help relations across our boarder to the North ;D ;D ;D

We may have ta borrow some money from ya!!!

Just remember that it won't be done by April of 2009 but maybe by April 2010 ;D ;D :D

Mooseherder · March 26, 2009, 10:42:07 PM

Don't make it too stout. Jill may strap ya on and spin you when your bad. :D

Burlkraft · March 26, 2009, 11:24:06 PM

But I'm never bad ;D

SwampDonkey · March 27, 2009, 06:21:18 AM

Speaking of bad actors, there's two of the biggest bad actors right there. ;D

Burlkraft · April 29, 2009, 08:49:12 AM

A little update on this project

It's coming along well. I am working off of some not so good pictures with no measurements. :

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I have the stand built and I am working on the turntable right now.

All joints are M/T and it's solid as can be and it's not even glued together yet.

Jill has a lot of sanding to do and then it can be assembled.

I just got a new camera, so I can post some pics again.
I'll try to get some today. ;D ;D

SwampDonkey · April 29, 2009, 04:11:04 PM

Well.....show'm if ya got'm. ;D :D

Can't wait to see it progress along. ;)

Burlkraft · April 29, 2009, 09:45:51 PM

Ok...Here's some pictures of the easel

I'm still waiting for the slide brackets for the sides from my machine shop

My first prototype of the swivel base and the great set of plans I have to work from :D :D :D

The pictures are not turned properly because I do not have permission to go to that page :

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Fla._Deadheader · April 29, 2009, 10:16:10 PM

That's some strong glue ya got, to stick that thing to the wall. :

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;D

Jeff · April 29, 2009, 10:53:48 PM

I had to fix those photos, I was getting a kink in my neck

CHARLIE · April 30, 2009, 12:40:22 AM

Here's some free plans for easels and a lot more.

http://www.woodworkersworkshop.com/resources/index.php?cat=431

Mooseherder · April 30, 2009, 06:12:43 AM

I see the Desk being put to good use disguised under that sheet. :D
Looks like Guitar Jam. ;D

Burlkraft · April 30, 2009, 07:06:58 AM

Have ya noticed how the desk has turned in ta a bench? :D :D :D

Burlkraft · June 12, 2009, 08:12:16 AM

A quick update here. The easel is finished...well....my part anyway

The construction is done and now it needs to be disassembled and sanded, then oiled and sprayed. Then it needs to be reassembled and taped off and sprayed again :

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Here's a few pics.......

Fla._Deadheader · June 12, 2009, 09:03:42 AM

Either that Gal is SOME pretty Tall, er, she gonna need a step ladder to paint da sky :

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Looks pretty neat, overall.

pigman · June 12, 2009, 09:10:52 AM

Harold, when she is ready to paint da sky, she can rotate da thing so the sky will be at the bottom.

Looking good Steve. I just knew it would be an easy project for you. ;) ;D

Burlkraft · June 12, 2009, 09:20:08 AM

She's a He and he's 6'2".

Where I have it set when I took the pics the center was at eye level for me and I'm 5' 10".

That is a 48" X 48" frame I have on it. That's about as big as she'll hold ;D ;D