Need A Little ID help after a Short Walk

[Radar67]

I found a few plants that I can't Identify, any ideas?

Plant 1 Cercis canadensis Redbud






Plant 2  Viola sp. Wild Violet


Plant 3 Myrica cerifera, Southern Waxmyrtle


Plant 4 Cherry


The large part is the main trunk of this plant. You have to overlook the vine growing on it.


Plant 5 (Anise Tree)


I really enjoyed my walk and these plants' show of color livened it up a good bit.

[Don K]

Plant 4 looks like a cherry to me. # 5 looks like some kind of magnolia. What do I knows. :

I found a flowering shrub I am going to post in hopes somebody can identify. I've never seen it before.

Don

[Radar67]

I'll bet 5 is my anise tree Danny pointed out last year.

[Don K]

That's what you need to put in your fish soap.

Don

[Radar67]

Yup, already got some.

[WDH]

I believe that you are correct on #5.

[jeffreythree]

Plant 1 is definitely a redbud, got one in my backyard with flowers just like that.  Plant 2 is a wild violet: http://www.uky.edu/Ag/ukturf/weed%20id/Wild%20Violet.htm

[WDH]

Plant #3 is Myrica cerifera, Southern Waxmyrtle

[SwampDonkey]

Plant #3 is Myrica cerifera, Southern Waxmyrtle

They make scented candles with it. A pound of nuts immersed in hot water yields 4 ounces of wax. ;D

A relative of our Myrica gale sweetgale. Leaves scented, used to flavour meat, and scent clothes

[Radar67]

Thanks for all the help guys. Now I need to get some of those aluminum tags and start labeling some of them.

[WDH]

We still have #4 to go.  I am still puzzled.  Maybe if i saw it in person ;D.  Can you bring me a twig next Tuesday?

[SwampDonkey]

#4 Looks like a species of plum. I think a see a pair of unopened flower buds on the first twig.

[Radar67]

Let's see if this helps.

Here is a close up of the leaf. Also, see the note below on the second picture of #4.


If this doesn't do it, I can stop by and get a twig Tuesday.

[SwampDonkey]

Speaks to me and says plum.  ;D Those emergent leaves also tell me the flowers are not white, because of the pinkish fringe. They may possibly look white, but closeup they will be light pink or darker. ;D

That's how I tell rose bloom color.

[Radar67]

Which flowers are you talking about SD? Plant 1? If so, those flowers are purple when you are standing right there in front of it.

Plant 4 is a completely different plant than #1.

[SwampDonkey]

Talking about the leaves in #4, the spring flush of leaves will give you a hint to the flower color.

[Radar67]

I guess you can call me color challenged then, I can't see it. 

[SwampDonkey]

Ya gotta observe as well as look.  ;D

[WDH]

Leaves look a little too big for a native plum.  But it does look like a fruit tree, maybe peach.

[SwampDonkey]

That would fit to if they go wild down there I suppose. ;D

[Dodgy Loner]

I'd bet your anise-tree that plant #4 is just a black cherry.  If it were a plum, it would be in bloom right now.  Plus, it has more lenticels than most of our native plums.

[SwampDonkey]

Who said anything about native? :D

We can't rule cherry out, but I was sure I seen an umbel on a twig. I mean it's flushed from the bud, but not open. Only Radar knows I guess.

[Radar67]

I'm not 100% sure SD. There are cherries growing in the area. I plan to break off a twig for WDH to see Tuesday when we have supper together. We'll know for sure then. ;)

[SwampDonkey]

Probably end up being cherry then. But I have had peach as well here and they are heavy on the lenticel department to.

[WDH]

Dodgy,

You are probably right.  It looked fruity, but somehow black cherry did not strike home  .

[SwampDonkey]

cherry was too easy. Radar is suppose to know better. ;D

[Radar67]

What you mean SD? Know better than to give you such a simple example, or I should have known it was cherry, since I have already identified cherry on my place before? If it is the later, I plead it is a young plant without flower stalks and I am still new enough to plant ID to miss it.  ;) :D :D :D

[SwampDonkey]

Welcome to the room of the simple minded. Ok, maybe not simple minded. But, bad acting characters at least. ;D

Anyhow, I gotta pick on someone this morning. Tag, your it.  Yeah, it's quarter to one in the morning. :D

[Radar67]

Well, WDH confirmed the plant as Cherry. Although it was fairly easy to recognize this week since it had sprouted the racine flower stalks that scream "CHERRY".

With that out of the way, we had a great supper and browsed each other's wood lots through our conversation.  8)

[Don K]

At least I was right about the cherry.

Don

[WDH]

Yes, a nice supper and a chance to discuss the world of wood. 

[Radar67]

I have a couple of other plants to id. I'll include my choice to see if it is even close.

Plant 1 possible a water hickory







Plant 2 I'm thinking young persimmon (the bark is very similar to a recent ID)







This last one is not a plant, but it could be supper. I found this in my creek.

[WDH]

I bet the hickory is mockernut.  You can see the tomentose rachis (hairy leaf petiole) in the photos. 

You are right about the persimmon.  The last two are dogwood.

That is a good sized mudbug!

[Radar67]

Danny, the last two leaf pictures came off the tree with the "persimmon" bark. If you look close in the bark picture, you can see a couple of the leaves sprouting from the trunk.

This is the second time I've seen one that size in the creek. I'll be setting a trap when the water goes down a little. ;)

[SwampDonkey]

The little creeks here were always full of them crayfish. Even creeks that dry up in summer, they hide under rocks.

[SwampDonkey]

Your last bark and leaves suggests flowering dogwood.

[WDH]

You are right.  Large dogwood and persimmon bark is similar, but persimmon bark is usually much blacker.  I did not notice the sprouts 

[Chico]

First one we calla pignut hickorysecond looks like dogwood and the third is definately a mudbug  ;D
Chico

[WDH]

#1 is definitely not pignut because pignut is smooth, not hairy. 

[Dodgy Loner]

Second one is defintely flowering dogwood, and I agree that the first is most likely a mockernut hickory...the leaf shape and the number of leaflets suggests bitternut hickory (which I thought it was at first), but the abundant bud scales identifies this as a 'true hickory'.  The true hickories have imbricate buds, meaning that the buds have many overlapping scales.  The 'pecan hickories', which includes pecan (of course), bitternut hickory, and water hickory, have naked buds (no scales), so you will not see those bud scales at the base of the new growth after bud break with these species.

[Lanier_Lurker]

If you look carefully at the second hickory leaf picture you will see a leaf that has 9 leaflets.  That is another strong indicator that it is a mockernut.

[Lanier_Lurker]

If you look carefully at the second hickory leaf picture you will see a leaf that has 9 leaflets.  That is another strong indicator that it is a mockernut.

Um, yes...but that does not rule out bitternut...

:

[WDH]

Like Dodgy says, those imbricate bud scales (versus valvate) tell the tale on that hickory  .

[Radar67]

Thanks guys. Now I have a couple more reference samples to match some of my other trees to.  ;) I sure need to get some of those aluminum tags...I may have to bite my lip and drive to Jackson to the foresrty supply. :(

[SwampDonkey]

Just don't give him a butternut bud. I don't know about hickory so much, but on butternut terminal buds, the outermost pair of scales are feather-like in appearance. :D

[WDH]

Words of wisdom from the "Butternut Whisperer"  ;D.