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Offline dancan

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Re: Garwood winch
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2008, 04:12:26 am »
It's the load/tension thing that made me wonder , how was tension released in it's original application ?
pto's on most truck trannys are reversible.
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Re: Garwood winch
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2008, 07:33:05 am »
pineywoods, I agree with everything you said about using a hydraulic motor...only problem I was never smart nuff to figure out what size it would take.


moderate sized hydraulic

Could you point me to the right size motor to use on my 30,000 pound Garwood?  Does Surplus Center sell a motor that would work?  I think it would be an easy and worth while conversion for me to make.

 


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Re: Garwood winch
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2008, 08:49:16 pm »






Could you point me to the right size motor to use on my 30,000 pound Garwood?  Does Surplus Center sell a motor that would work?  I think it would be an easy and worth while conversion for me to make.




Surplus center would definitely have anything you need.  If you can get your hands on one of their catalogs, there's some charts in there that compares various hydraulic motors with electric and gas. what you need is low speed high torque. I could go out to the mill and read the data plate on mine, but it's DARK out there and there's SKEETERS. I scrounged mine off an old truck tire changer and don't know right off hand. It's about the size of a large tin can. Took me 2 tries changing sprocket sizes to get it like I wanted.


UPDATE  The data plate is long gone. It's 3 inch dia, 6 inches long 1/2 pipe ports. I would estimate 100-150 rpm with 8 gpm flow. Plenty stout. I have busted roller chains and winch cable, never stalled the motor.
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Re: Garwood winch
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2008, 05:29:49 am »
Thanks for all of the replies .Now I have alot of of ideas to work with .
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Re: Garwood winch
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2008, 08:41:32 pm »

The Vietnam era Deuce and a Half army trucks (M35A2) had Garwood 10,000 lb winches.  They were PTO driven.  The PTO had two forward speeds and one reverse.  A later version of the Deuce (M35A3) has the same winch with a hydraulic motor.

I have a Garwood 10,000 lb. winch that I would like to use on my 4610 Ford tractor .I would use the hydraulics on the tractor to power it.What speed do these winches run ? How big of a hydraulic motor would I need to run it?  Thanks Tom
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Re: Garwood winch
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2008, 10:35:59 pm »
Look, I'm an old dog who's been bush-whacking for longer than I want to admit...but you guys amaze me.  Really.

Any chance you could get together and come up with a simple design for a cheap, effective, home-made 3-point hitch skidding winch that any putz with average skills and a welder coud put together in a short time?  Seriously

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Re: Garwood winch
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2008, 11:09:06 pm »
Look, I'm an old dog who's been bush-whacking for longer than I want to admit...but you guys amaze me.  Really.

Any chance you could get together and come up with a simple design for a cheap, effective, home-made 3-point hitch skidding winch that any putz with average skills and a welder coud put together in a short time?  Seriously


How about this ...
 



 



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Re: Garwood winch
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2008, 07:39:32 am »
Kodiacmac, I made my own some 10 years ago. Started with an 8,000 lb. Tulsa winch off a wrecker. I had a hyd. motor driving it, but never got the right one. Too slow & not enough 'snot' I had it for sale for awhile, some lookers, no takers. End of this summer, I had it in my shop, went from hyd. to pto drive. The changeover was just incredible. I've skidded out 100+ trees since then with no problems. I lost my reverse drive by going to pto, I have to watch out I don't get in a spot where I can't backup or lower the hitch to let the strain off the cable. So far, so good. 

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Re: Garwood winch
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2008, 08:39:04 am »
Guys,  ALL great ideas.

 Larry,

 I like yours on the ground, are there studs or cleats that bury in the ground if it starts to pull you in reverse? Just a thought. I think I may do a hybrid of the Larry and Mike Van units


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Re: Garwood winch
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2008, 08:12:19 pm »
The hydraulic winch has worked well for me . I have had it for about 17 years and because it is hydraulic it has been on more than one piece of gear.  Needs evolve and found myself needing the back of the tractor for other stuff and wanting the winch at the same time. Being able to use powered spool in and spool out with freespoll has been very useful. The thing I never got to incorporate yet is some form of fairlead to keep the cable coming on stright to reduce wear. Added a couple of yarding pics to the gallery. :)

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Re: Garwood winch
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2008, 08:35:55 pm »
Stephen
Is that pulpwood you are bringing in?   or for firewood?

And do you just winch it in, or try to back out with it on the front like that?
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Re: Garwood winch
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2008, 09:25:23 pm »
Hey BT; our forestry sector has pretty much flatlined. Firewood is the primary product these days especially in any stand improvement work. Over the years that winch has pulled just about everything . Generally speaking the twitch is pulled together and hauled ahead. the tractor is turned and the wood sorted and hauled to the landing with the grapple. Then the slash is picked up and piled or spread depending on objectives. :)
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