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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2008, 06:33:15 am »
We always called them a swing saw.  The old ones had a handle on the side and you just pulled it to cut slabs or board ends.  Weights would always keep it back out of the way.

You can buy a used newer model for $1-2000 with power.  I saw one that was a little more expensive with live infeed and outfeed.
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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2008, 06:47:58 am »
Have any of you guys built a shear to cut slab ,if you have hydraulics no big deal ,no teeth to sharpen and their quiet.Frank C.
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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2008, 09:42:00 am »
I have a cornell slabsaw that works just like the one in the video link that Ron put on here. All these other saws require an operator. The cornell saw does not. You throw the slab in the trough and walk away. You can run your mill and cut the slabs at the same time. The only drawback is you need 3 phase power to run it. I have not used my slabsaw since I put a mulch grinder inline 5 years ago. I put the slabsaw in a barn and would like to clean the barn out for other uses.  The saw blade on my slabsaw is a carbide blade but I also have an inserted tooth blade that used the same teeth as my headsaw. Before I had the slabsaw we used a set of rollers and a block of wood for a stop and a man with a chainsaw and a rubber belt conveyor to carry away and stack the cut slabs . That worked ok but would never be able to keep up with the volume I saw today. As for the cornell slabsaw I out grew that too. The mulch grinder was the best thing I put in to get rid of all the waste. The problem I had with slab wood was that people would come in pick through the slabs make a mess while there kids ran playing over my log piles. I got rid of that liability when I got rid of the slab wood and now I sell everything instead of having a big pile of junk wood spread all over the place in the spring.

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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2008, 12:16:45 pm »
I think that it was in Moultrie that I saw a rig a fellow was trying to sell as a firewood saw.  It was still looking kind of home-made but he was proud of it.   He had a roller table set up with a bit of a frame on one end.  On this frame, he had attached a relatively small chainsaw.  It was hooked on there by the tip of its bar and was eithr spring loaded or cantelevered such that, when he turned it loose, the engine would swing to the top of an arc. 

He would put a slab or small log on the roller bed and feed it off of the end. When it was the right length, he had stops out there, he would reach up and get the handle of the chainsaw, rev it up and pull the engine down through the slab or small log.  Yep, He had invented the "Chop Saw".  :D   But it worked.  :)
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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2008, 08:19:19 pm »
 check out baileys they have what they call the smart holder for firewood for $100 bucks and it's the slickest tool i have. load it up with slabs, chop with chain saw. works great and it folds up for storage
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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2008, 11:17:01 pm »
Have any of you guys built a shear to cut slab ,if you have hydraulics no big deal ,no teeth to sharpen and their quiet.Frank C.

I've been wanting to build one of these.  Even one that I could cut chunks of wood fast that could be use to fuel a wood gasser.
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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2008, 11:28:34 pm »
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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2008, 12:03:21 am »
Interesting cut-off saw and splitter. At the speed shown in the video, the guy is going to freeze to death waiting for it to buck the log, and split the piece. Looks entirely too weak in the knees to last very long.

But interesting just the same, and glad you posted it.

Curious about the wood shear...as slicing across the grain of wood, as in a slab or a log, takes a lot of power and a pretty sharp, strong blade. There are some log shears out there, but thinking they work just for some of the softwoods.
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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2008, 12:10:51 am »
I couldn't get those videos to play, but from the size they looked kind of slow. A guy can always built up on power.

On the shear- I've been thinking more of a guitine(sp) as in french with a big heavy head cuttin' off type blade.  Pure mass would slice through small daimeter logs and branches like butter for making chunk wood blocks for a wood gassifier.

Do think one for firewood logs would definitly have to be beefy.
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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2008, 04:24:37 am »
If I had the money, I think I'd get one of those Chomper firewood processors... it's a shear-based one... if you haven't seen it, check it out... very impressive.

For now, the direction I'm going with this cutoff saw is I've mounted a chain bar to an old electric chop saw head. It's a complete rough draft, just something I slapped together in a 1/2 hour... I wanted to see if the chop saw motor would be strong enough to pull the chain, and it is. I'll post some pics tomorrow...

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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2008, 06:54:53 am »
Have any of you guys noticed the shear junk dealers use to cut long pieces to #1,its just a massive cast iron shear that runs constantly you feed into it.Have a belt feeding it at the right speed and let her go you'd have some a little shorter than the outhers. Frank C.
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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2008, 09:41:11 am »
Have any of you guys noticed the shear junk dealers use to cut long pieces to #1,its just a massive cast iron shear that runs constantly you feed into it.Have a belt feeding it at the right speed and let her go you'd have some a little shorter than the outhers. Frank C.

Where can I see a pic of one of these, or what would they call that?  This is what I need to make chunks.

When you say "cut long pieces to #1",  what is #1? Rebar?

The only thing I've been able to find like this is a Laimet screw auger chipper and they are $20,000.
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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2008, 09:42:18 am »
If I had the money, I think I'd get one of those Chomper firewood processors... it's a shear-based one... if you haven't seen it, check it out... very impressive.

For now, the direction I'm going with this cutoff saw is I've mounted a chain bar to an old electric chop saw head. It's a complete rough draft, just something I slapped together in a 1/2 hour... I wanted to see if the chop saw motor would be strong enough to pull the chain, and it is. I'll post some pics tomorrow...

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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2008, 03:38:24 pm »
Here's the video page for the Chomper...

Chomper video page

Here's a pic of the "rough draft" of what I've got going... this was just a quick & dirty check to see if the motor was strong enough to spin the chain well... (it did). I'm going to remove the handle and bolt another arm on the other side (left side of pic)... again, this was just a test.



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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2008, 07:34:58 am »
JP,what I was refering to is #1 prepared steel i believe thats under 4'.I don't know the proper name every junk yard around here has at least one.Stop by any old junk yard and ask,mayby bring a slab or two and try it.I have never seen a new one probibly OSHA put them out of business.Frank C.
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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2008, 11:08:18 pm »
If I had the money, I think I'd get one of those Chomper firewood processors... it's a shear-based one... if you haven't seen it, check it out... very impressive.

For now, the direction I'm going with this cutoff saw is I've mounted a chain bar to an old electric chop saw head. It's a complete rough draft, just something I slapped together in a 1/2 hour... I wanted to see if the chop saw motor would be strong enough to pull the chain, and it is. I'll post some pics tomorrow...

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I've got a 14" Chomper. The only thing it realy dosen't like is old dry brittle wood, just kinda shatters it (makes good kindling though  :D). The shear could be made pretty easily for chomping up slabs. Most wood will shear cross grain a lot easier than people think.

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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2008, 06:45:11 pm »
check out baileys they have what they call the smart holder for firewood for $100 bucks and it's the slickest tool i have. load it up with slabs, chop with chain saw. works great and it folds up for storage
I built one of these last fall, before Baileys offered it.  Difference is mine will take 2 12 slabs at a time.  If you're man enough to put it in, it'll hold it.  When I saw the one in Baileys, I snickered to myself.  A lot of good ideas coming in though.  It might take a bit to wrangle out the best one.
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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2008, 11:21:13 pm »
BUT YOU AND I BOTH KNOW IT'S BETTER THAN SPENDING $ 5,000 GRAND OR BETTER.
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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2008, 11:51:12 pm »
check out baileys they have what they call the smart holder for firewood for $100 bucks and it's the slickest tool i have. load it up with slabs, chop with chain saw. works great and it folds up for storage
I built one of these last fall, before Baileys offered it.  Difference is mine will take 2 12 slabs at a time.  If you're man enough to put it in, it'll hold it.  When I saw the one in Baileys, I snickered to myself.  A lot of good ideas coming in though.  It might take a bit to wrangle out the best one.

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Re: Cutoff saw for slab wood?
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2008, 12:12:20 am »
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