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Started by SwingOak, March 15, 2008, 01:05:00 AM

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SwingOak

OK - So I might be in the market for a new saw. I have a 262 XP that may need replacement (or maybe I'll fix it & get a new one anyway  ;D). I have a 24" bar for the 262XP. What new saw would you folks recommend that maybe has a bit more power for driving the 24" bar? The 372XP? And will my 24" bar fit it? I bought the saw  back in '94, the 24" bar is a bit newer, and I don't use it much either.

Cut4fun


thecfarm

Lurcherman,sorry to hear you are having saw problems.You stated you bought that saw in '94.It's been a good saw.Now for the sticker price wow. I want to welcome you to the forum too. We will galdly help here,but a good dealer will help you too.Help you out with taking your money out of your wallet too.     :D  I would agree with Cut4fun.I'm no saw expect,but one is a kinda small saw and the 372 is a big one. Good luck and let us all know what you buy. That 372 will really go.
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sawguy21

Lurcherman, welcome aboard. What the others have said, the 357XP and 359 are the largest saws currently available with the small bar mount. They are underpowered for a 24" bar. I liken it to hooking a 35' 5th wheel travel trailer to a 6 cylinder half ton. It can be done but don't ask the truck to pull it up a mountain pass. ;D The 372XP is great with a 24" and lighter than the new 570/575.
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SwingOak

Thanks folks - Yeah, I found my original receipt and I paid $600 for it back in '94. I got it from a small power equipment shop nearby. I would imagine I'd get my next saw from the same place. There are several small shops within 15 miles and they are all good places.

So no matter what I'm definitely going to rebuild it if I have to. I think it's a keeper. I put all the current Husky models into an Excel spreadsheet, and when I sort by power, displacement, weight, whatever - the 362XP ends up next to the 262XP every time.

Am I right in thinking the 362XP basically the same saw?

Cut4fun


Cut4fun


SwingOak

How does $780 sound for a 372XP with a 24" bar? Too much? Just right? A good deal?  ???

timberfaller610

How about a Stihl 440 it has plenty of power for the 24's

Cut4fun


peter nap

Quote from: Cut4fun on March 22, 2008, 11:02:59 AM
Thats a tad high IMO. But I am spoiled when he comes to saw prices. I believe in the free market of the online search and just a phone call away.

372xp PHO $569
372xp with 20" and 3 chains and hat and shirt $609

Now for the curve ball.

Dolmar 7900 $545 + tax. Not sure on the bar combo
Solo 681 20" $679
Dolmar 7300 (got to get the price again, old brain forgot, but cheaper then 7900) 
Dolmar 5100 $350 + tax.
7900 elsewhere with 24" $689

I will not tell the dealers in open. But here is what I see saws going for.


I was going to say something about the Dolmars, but they take the large Husky bar.
If you go with the Dolmar (I love both of mine) I'd go for the 7900 or if you just want more power, the 9010. If you don't need the 9010's power, the 7900 is a nicer saw.

SwingOak

I've never heard of, or seen, Dolmar saws before. But then again, there's a lot I don't know!

peter nap

They've been around for a long time. Here's some discussion on the 7900:
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,30007.0.html

peter nap


snowman

I've always run Husky but I recently bought my 1st Dolmar and really like it! We used to call them dull mores. I'm not sure why, just thought it sounded funny I guess and nobody seemed to run them.I always considered them a homeowner saw but now have changed my mind. They are dang zippy but time will tell about longevity, durability, stuff like that.

Dale Hatfield

In Hardwood The 372 isnt much with a 24  bar.
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oldsaw

Quote from: Dale Hatfield on March 24, 2008, 01:58:04 PM
In Hardwood The 372 isnt much with a 24  bar.

Yeah, I like my 066 with a 24, the 372 gets a 20....It likes it very much, thank you.

Mark
So many trees, so little money, even less time.

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SwingOak

I have Stihl products, and they're really good stuff too - I just like Huskys better for some unknown, indescribable reason.

Interesting though that Stihl has a new "pre-filtration system". Husky has had their "air injection" on their saws for what, 20 years?

My 262XP wears a 20" bar most of the time, I almost never put the 24" on. But I'm also thinking of getting an Alaskan mill for small logs and would use something like the 372XP, or maybe a Stihl 441 with that I think.

Dave Shepard

I like the Stihls myself, but I really liked my 394xp, I will get it rebuilt one of these days. The air injection and spring suspension on the 394 is excellent.


Dave
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Corley5

Husky got their air filter system when Electrolux bought Jonsered for their Turbo Air cleaning system.  Huskys are just orange Jonsereds  ;) ;D
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Dave Shepard

Oh, no! What have I started! ;) :D


Dave
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dancan

Can't forget about the MS361 (I read on another site that it may be a cure for cancer but i don't know if there is any truth about that  :))
I have 2 MS361's and like them alot , I also have a Jred CS217 ,that one is kick ashh and a whole lot of fun to use (same as husky 371) and just like dave i have a 394 for a project (I need some parts if anyone has any) .
There is a real noticable difference between a 60cc saw and a 70cc saw but at the end of the day they feel the same on the body .
Just my 2cents

SawTroll

Quote from: Cut4fun on March 15, 2008, 08:17:46 AM
Please double check my info, but I think the 262 is a small husky mount K095 and the 372 is large husky mount bar.
From the sounds of your cutting I would step up to the 372xp  70.7cc or 372xpw = 375 74.66cc.

The 365 has the same weight and size as the 372, if the price is right.

Here is info on the 262 and its bar mount. The 357xp has the same bar mount as the 262, but I wouldn't run the length bars you are doing on it at 56.5cc for the 357.

http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/63f53b18ca40a69888256d5a00166956?OpenDocument

http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/BMP/01?OpenDocument

100% correct!

The saw is the 372xp, but the bar from the 262xp will not fit...
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SawTroll

Quote from: Lurcherman on March 15, 2008, 11:34:37 AM

Am I right in thinking the 362XP basically the same saw?

Not at all, basically the same as the 372xp, with a smaller engine - more weight and less power then the 262xp.
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SawTroll

Quote from: Corley5 on March 25, 2008, 03:52:01 PM
Husky got their air filter system when Electrolux bought Jonsered for their Turbo Air cleaning system.  Huskys are just orange Jonsereds  ;) ;D

Not true at all - that system was developed well after the buy-up of Husky, Jonsereds and Partner, and was a Partner design, not Jonsered(s).

The first Husky that had it was the 262xp......... :) ;)

The first saw that had it was the P7700, and the first Jonsered was the 2051.
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Corley5

They're still orange Jonsereds  ;D ;D
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Corley5

I've always heard Jonsered had acquired Partner before the buy out.  Jonsered Turbo saws were available here before Husky's Air Injected ones.  When the 2094 Jonsered Turbo came out Husky was still offering the 2101.
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Corley5

What would we do without Google  ;) ;D  A brief look at Electrolux's acquisitions of outdoor power equipment

1978 - Purchased Partner of Sweden


1979 - purch. Husqvarna of Sweden, which traces roots to 1689


1979 - purch. Jonsered of Sweden


1979 - Weed Eater merged with Poulan


1986 - purch. Poulan/Weed Eater of USA in 1986 from Emerson Electric, and operated as a div. of WCI, White Consolidated Industries Outdoor Products


1988 - purch. American Yard Products of USA


1988 - Partner-Pioneer div. merged into Poulan/Weed Eater, creating the Poulan Pro brand


1989 - purch. Roper outdoor products unit from GE, and renamed American Yard Products


1990 - purch. Allegretti & Co., makers of the Paramount brand and merged into Poulan/Weed Eater


1997 - Poulan/Weed Eater, Frigidaire and American Yard Products combined to form Frigidaire Home Products


1999 - purch. rights to McCulloch products outside of USA


2000 - purch. Blue Bird


2000 - USA operations renamed Electrolux Home Products


2005 - Electrolux announces plans to spin off or sell the Outdoor Products unit


2006 - The Electrolux Outdoor Products unit, including Husqvarna, is spun off into Husqvarna Outdoor Products, part of the new Husqvarna Group.


2006 - Acquired Dixon Industries, a US-based manufacturer of residential zero-turn mowers.


2007 - Purchased the Swedish lawnmower company Klippo.


2007 - Purchased outdoor products division of Japan's Komatsu Zenoah.

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SawTroll

Quote from: Corley5 on March 26, 2008, 09:16:42 PM
I've always heard Jonsered had acquired Partner before the buy out.  Jonsered Turbo saws were available here before Husky's Air Injected ones.  When the 2094 Jonsered Turbo came out Husky was still offering the 2101.

Not true, E-lux bought them all, one by one.

By now E-lux is out, and Husky owns the others ++++

It is correct that the 2051 predated the 262xp - but so what???? ::)
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Corley5

Quote from: SawTroll on March 27, 2008, 09:08:27 AM
but so what???? ::)

Exactly but Huskys are still orange Jonsereds  ;D :D :)

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rebocardo

I owned a huge Electrolux computer monitor once in the 80s, I wonder where that fits in  :D

SawTroll

Quote from: Corley5 on March 27, 2008, 09:38:51 AM
Quote from: SawTroll on March 27, 2008, 09:08:27 AM
but so what???? ::)

Exactly but Huskys are still orange Jonsereds  ;D :D :)



:D :D :D The  opposite is the truth, guess at which factory they are made....... :)

It started with the 670 and 630 in the early 1980s, and was completed just a few years ago - disregarding thye Poulan assambled saws of both brands of course.
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Corley5

Yes, but it's Jonsered engineering  :) ;D ;) :) :)
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Cut4fun


SawTroll

Quote from: Corley5 on March 28, 2008, 12:12:14 PM
Yes, but it's Jonsered engineering  :) ;D ;) :) :)

To a very small extent - the Husky 162SE from 1976 was the forefather......... ;)
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Corley5

Ya got documentation on that  ???  I don't have any  ;) ;D :)
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SawTroll

Quote from: Corley5 on April 01, 2008, 06:22:55 PM
Ya got documentation on that  ???  I don't have any  ;) ;D :)

Study the parts lists..... :P
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Corley5

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SwingOak

I almost bought a 394XP. That's a lot bigger than my 262XP.

I was going to use it with an Alaskan mill, but I haven't bought it yet, so I can wait a bit, I think.

Hey cut4fun, what happened to your posts?

It looks like they all got replaced with a  8)

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