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« on: November 04, 2007, 10:44:35 am »
As some of you know, there are many regional groups of people who have kiln operation in common. These groups are loose-knit but meet a couple times a year for a day or two of meetings and presentations. They also visit each other's company sites to share know-how in group tours. Another thing that some do is make scholarship money available to those who are eligible.

What I want to do in this thread is list all the groups we can find so that you can join one, if you wish. Many have websites.

Being in Pennsylvania, our local group is the Keystone Kiln Drying Association. They don't yet have a website. Current acting president (I believe) is Troy Feldbauer at Babcock Lumber Company near Pittsburgh, PA. I don't feel right about posting his company email address but I will give it to you if you ask via PM.


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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2007, 11:03:47 am »
In New England it's:

New England Kiln Drying Association
William Smith is Executive Secretary
Bill can be reached at SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry
Their website is www.esf.edu/nekda

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2007, 04:49:19 pm »
Allegheny Dry Kiln Club
Brian Bond
VA Tech
Blacksburg, VA
www.woodscience.vt.edu/about/extension/adkc.asp

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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2007, 05:08:05 pm »
Some of our western members might have an interest in The Centre for Advanced Wood Processing where you can take a top notched, comprehensive 150-hour modular course in kiln drying. There is other wood processing training there as well.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2007, 09:39:55 am »
I'll be speaking next week at the meeting of:

Southeastern Dry Kiln Club
Joe Denig
NC State
Raleigh, NC
www.ces.ncsu.edu/nreos/wood/dry_kiln

The meeting will be in Martinsville, VA

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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2007, 09:45:17 am »
Ohio Valley Dry Kiln Association
Carrol Fackler
Department of Forestry
University of Kentucky
Jacksonville, KY
www.ukwoodcenter.net/ovlda.htm

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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2007, 09:48:05 am »
Great Lakes Kiln Club
Bob Seavy
University of Minnesota
St. Paul, MN
www.glkda.org


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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2008, 08:16:18 pm »
Morrisville College, Morrisville, NY  Wood Technology Program
has scholarship recipients and has a wonderful program.

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2008, 09:02:06 pm »
I also think UNB has a wood science and technology centre as well. I had forgotten. It's a forest products testing lab. It's up at the Ranger School.

http://www.unbf.ca/forestry/centers/wstc.htm

Here is the kiln drying course: FOR 6883 Kiln drying wood-Wood hygroscopicity, moisture movement, shrinkage and swelling; dry kiln types and operation.

As well as some Wood Tech Courses in the undergraduate and graduate programs. I think they go hand in hand in understanding wood, personally. ;)

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2008, 08:41:28 am »
I copied this from another forum. I need to point Troy to the Forestry Forum.

If anyone is looking for information on the Keystone Kiln Drying Association or looking for an application please feel free to email me at troy@babcocklumber.com and I will follow up with you ASAP.

Please use KKDA for the subject.

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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2010, 09:42:36 am »
Here is another one that I found at another forum. What's wrong with these people using the wrong forum?  :D

HAYWOOD COMMUNITY COLLEGE(Clyde, NC) will host a DRY KILN OPERATOR'S SHORT-COURSE, July 27-30, 2010. The course will be presented by North Carolina State University (NCSU). For more information, please call Whit Whitmire at 828-565-4246, or email: mwhitmire@haywood.edu.

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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2010, 10:00:46 am »
Here's another short course.

The University of Minnesota's 33rd Annual Kiln Drying Short Course will be held August 16-19, 2010. This course is designed to provide basic training for dry kiln operators and supervisors, but it is open to anyone interested in kiln construction, kiln operation and wood-moisture relations. For more information, contact Harlan Petersen at (612) 624-3407, fax (612) 625-6286, email harlan@umn.edu.

http://www.bbe.umn.edu/kdsc

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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2010, 10:08:21 pm »
Thanks for all of this information.

 I need to take one of these courses even though I have been drying now many moons.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2010, 10:37:28 am »
I copied this from another forum. Darn Bill Smith!  ;)

We will again be holding our Kiln Drying Workshop at SUNY ESF January 10-13, 2011 in Syracuse. Use the attached link to the website for our agenda and registration information. Contact Bill Smith at wbsmith@esf.edu or 315-470-6832 with questions.

http://www.esf.edu/outreach/kiln/

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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2010, 09:47:16 am »
The following was lifted from WoodWeb.


The NHLA along with the Ohio Valley Lumber Drying Association will be sponsoring a beginners drying class near Lexington, KY on April 11-13, 2011.

The NHLA in cooperation with the Ohio Valley Lumber Drying Assn will be sponsoring an advanced drying class near Lexington, KY on April 15, 2011. Contact Gene Wengert for class info; registration through the NHLA or OVLDA.

On the 14-15, the OVLDA will be having their regular spring meeting which will include several mill tours on the 14 and then the advanced class on the 15th. Contact Carroll Fackler (cfackler@uky.edu) for OVLDA info or the link below.

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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2011, 05:44:42 pm »
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The New England Kiln Drying Association Spring Meeting is being held April 6 & 7 in Oneonta, NY. If you are interested in our program and would like to participate, please go to our website www.esf.edu/nekda for details and registration information.
We have posted on our website as well a number of the interesting technical presentations from past meetings www.esf.edu/nekda/past.htm .

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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2011, 10:22:44 am »
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Hello All,
The spring 2011 meeting of the OVLDA is coming up in a couple of weeks on April 14th  starting at 8:00 am, in Lawrenceburg, KY. The one day meeting will be held at the Anderson County Extension office. Our technical presentations will focus on drying lumber with a minimum of checks, splits and other quality degrades. We will also have time for our Kiln Operators Clinic. Tours will include the Four Roses Distillery, Lawrenceburg and Glasscock Log and Lumber, Bloomfield.
 
We changed our meeting format for this meeting because of the Basic Drying short course before and Advanced Drying course after the general OVLDA meeting.
 
We have an exceptional opportunity in the Ohio Valley region to take advantage of this unique educational  opportunity, please consider attending the general meeting and one or more of the short courses. Seats are still available.
 
Thanks and looking forward to seeing you during the second full week of April.
 
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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2011, 03:59:18 pm »
FROM: http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,50136.0.html

Virginia Tech will hold a one-day program on drying lumber with a solar kiln in Blacksburg, VA at the Brooks Forest Products Center on Friday May 20, 2011. This workshop introduces the principles of drying hardwood and softwood lumber in a solar kiln. The course also contains information on the design and operation of solar kilns. Emphasis will be placed on the solar kiln design at Virginia Tech (www.woodscience.vt.edu/about/extension/vtsolar_kiln/). Our solar kiln is on-site and will be used in the course. Whether you are considering building a solar kiln or are currently operating one, this short course will provide you information that will improve your lumber drying skills.

For more information or to register:

www.woodscience.vt.edu/workshops/solar-drying/

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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2011, 04:11:39 pm »
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The New England Kiln Drying Association Fall Meeting is being held November 2 & 3 in Rutland, VT. If you are interested in our excellent meeting program and would like to participate, please go to our website www.esf.edu/nekda for details and registration information.
We have posted on our website as well a number of the interesting technical presentations from past meetings www.esf.edu/nekda/past.htm .

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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2012, 12:01:56 pm »
The Great Lakes KDA will be meeting April 12 and 13 (1/2 day technical meeting) at Antigo, WI Contact Harlan Petersen at Harlan@umn.edu for more info.

Technical program includes info on the new training facility, kiln repair or replacement, and air flow. As always, there is a Q&A session (Open Workshop).

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The Ohio Valley LDA is meeting at Marietta, OH (along the OH River) on April 19 (yours) and 20 (technical session). The technical topics include boilers, dip tanks, and moisture meters plus more.

Contact Carroll Fackler at cfackler@uky.edu

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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2012, 12:35:13 pm »
The New England Kiln Drying Association Spring Meeting is being held April 19 & 20 in Danbury, CT. If you are interested in our excellent meeting program and would like to participate, please go to our website www.esf.edu/nekda for details and registration information.
We have posted on our website as well a number of the interesting technical presentations from past meetings at www.esf.edu/nekda/past.htm .

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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2012, 07:59:34 am »
A PRACTICAL BASIC DRY KILN OPERATORS TRAINING October 30 and 31, 2012 Location: Chaney Lumber Company 4276 S Laurel Rd. London, KY 40744

Instructors: Dr. Eugene Wengert, Dr. Eric McConnell, Dr. Adam Taylor and Dr. Brian Bond

Sponsors: Ohio Valley Lumber Drying Association Kentucky Forest Industries Association National Hardwood Lumber Association UK Forestry Extension ------------------------------------------------------ Followed by: OHIO VALLEY LUMBER DRYING ASSOCIATION FALL MEETING Fall Meeting November 1 and 2, 2012 Hampton Inn, London, KY

Technical Sessions and Tours of Forest Products Industries in the London, KY Area: Robinson Stave Inc. 1812 Hwy. 3434, East Bernstadt, KY 40729 Patterson Chip Co. Inc. 6179 S US Hwy. 25, Corbin, KY 40701 Laminated Timbers Inc 4348 S Laurel Road, London, KY 40744 Chaney Lumber Co., Inc. 4276 S. Laurel Road, London, KY 40744 Begley Pine Mountain Lumber, LLC BPM London Sawmill, 24 Seeley Road, London, KY 40741

For More Information Contact: Carroll Fackler, University of Kentucky Department of Forestry (606) 666-2438 X235, cfackler@uky.edu

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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2013, 01:34:32 pm »
  Does anyone know of any classes geared towards the small kiln operator in the Pacific NW? I did inquire about one that Oregon State University offers once a year, but it is geared more toward large commercial operations. Thanks for any information.

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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2013, 10:34:36 am »
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The New England Kiln Drying Association Spring Meeting is being held March 27 & 28 in West Lebanon, NH. If you are interested in our excellent meeting program and would like to participate, please go to our website www.esf.edu/nekda for details and registration information.
We have posted on our website as well a number of the interesting technical presentations from past meetings.

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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2013, 10:28:15 am »
Great Lakes Kiln Drying Association, Spring Meeting, April 25-26, 2013 at Manitowoc, WI. Thursday is a tour of several mills (Krueger Lumber and Lakeshore Forest Products) and more. Friday morning is the technical program including vacuum kilns, biomass fuels, sap stain, plus the famous "Questions from the floor." Contact Scott Anderson for more info at scottander@earthlink.net
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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2013, 02:03:19 pm »
Hi Gene,

I believe this group asked me to speak a couple years ago but I decided it was too far to drive. Who is giving the presentation regarding vacuum kilns this time?

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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2013, 04:29:51 pm »
The Keystone Kiln Drying Association will meet in Williamsport, PA on May 15, 2013. The meeting will start with a tour of our shop at Process Control Specialties. That will be followed by a tour of Danzer Veneer. Dennis Clay will speak about his unusual method of running conventional kilns and I will speak about vacuum kilns. Those who are interested in attending and are not a member of KKDA can PM me and we'll get you enrolled. You need to be a member to attend.
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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2013, 03:28:19 pm »
Penn State is holding a short course for kiln drying hardwood lumber. http://www.cvent.com/events/kiln-drying-of-hardwood-lumber-short-course-university-park/event-summary-4510288db9b24ad4af19968ed89b5fed.aspx
It's June 11-13, 2013 at Penn State's main campus at University Park. Cost is $350 per person. Connect to the link for details.

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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2013, 01:17:13 am »
Thanks for the heads up , looking to find one in NC .  I've been to VA Tech solar kiln class . 
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« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2013, 07:20:32 am »
Northcentral Technical College and the Great Lakes Kiln Drying Association are sponsoring a Beginners class, August 5-8, 2013 in Antigo, WI.

They are also sponsoring an Advanced Drying Class August 8-9, 2013 in the same place.

For more info, contact Continuing Education at 888-682-7144, ext. 1861 or ce@ntc.edu.

I am one of the instructors for the beginners class and the main teacher for Advanced.

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« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2014, 06:56:01 pm »
I have a LOT of work to do to get up to speed with drying my wood. I never realized so many groups were available!   :o  I am just floor'd. So excited to see wood workers and the industry sharing and caring for us.
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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2014, 08:48:17 pm »
Has anyone heard about a kiln drying class in either, VA., NC, SC, or TN.

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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2014, 06:44:49 pm »
I'm going to be a speaker at a workshop on vacuum drying that Dr. Brian Bond is organizing at Virginia Tech. I know that the cost of vacuum kilns is out of reach of most of you, but if you are interested, I'll get you in.

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« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2014, 03:49:55 pm »
The Southeastern Dry Kiln Club will meet October 30. You can find details here. http://research.cnr.ncsu.edu/blogs/wpe/files/2014/10/Meeting-NoticeRegistration.pdf
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« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2015, 06:43:41 am »
There will be a two day Advanced Lumber Drying class in Johnson City, TN, November 11-12, 2015.  Very practical.  Topics include info on quality improvement; drying oak, maple, EWP; reducing drying time; and much more.  Details on registration to follow.  Mark your calendar now.  Contact the Ohio Valley Kiln Drying Assn, Appalachian DKA and SE Dry Kiln Club.  Although I am teaching, the main organizer to Bobby Ammerman and he is at the Univ of KY at bammerma@uky.edu

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Achieving The Objective of Drying--How strawberries, underwear and dried lumber are related
 
Drying Quiz (25 key questions and discussion)
 
How Drying Affects Subsequent Yields, Gluing and Machining
 
Quality Measurements of Green Lumber (How to identify those factors that affect drying and how to measure incoming lumber quality)
 
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Shrinkage (When does green lumber start to shrink?  How does dry lumber shrink?)
 
Warp--Causes and Cures
 
Checking--Causes and Cures, with Emphasis on Oak
 
Stain--Causes and Cures, with Emphasis on Maple and Ash
 
Steaming Walnut (and a few other species) for Color Enhancement (Equipment and techniques)
 
Advanced Operations--Kiln Start-Up; Schedules; Equalizing and Conditioning
 
Thick Lumber Drying
 
Moisture Content Measurement (How 30 readings accurately predict the average and spread of MC for the entire load)
 
Dry Lumber Quality Measurements  (What to measure and what records to keep so that the next load is better)
 
How I Evaluate a Drying Operation (My personal check-list with explanations--stacking, air drying, predrying, kiln drying)

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« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2015, 12:05:21 am »
Gene,

What types of kiln operations would benefit most from this training?  High-heat, DH, solar, vacuum, softwood, hardwood, etc.?
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Re: kiln operator associations and operator training
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2015, 07:22:31 am »
The emphasis will be on steam and DH drying of hardwoods, but we will cover pine (esp. EWP), and even solar.  (Many principles of drying apply to all three.  However, for example, discussion about controlling checking applies mainly to oak.  Discussion on color applies mainly to maple, ash and EWP.  Fungal blue stain control and warp control applies to all.  Etc.)  The agenda is given in an earlier posting.

Although I am teaching, the main organizer to Bobby Ammerman and he is at the Univ of KY at bammerma@uky.edu
Gene - Author of articles in Sawmill & Woodlot and books: Drying Hardwood Lumber; VA Tech Solar Kiln; Sawing Edging & Trimming Hardwood Lumber. And more

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Re: kiln operator associations and operator training
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2016, 09:41:11 am »
The Great Lakes Kiln Drying Association will be holding its annual spring meeting in St. Croix falls WI on April 7th and 8th.  For more information on the meeting or joining the association you can check out the association website at www.glkda.com.  You can also PM me.

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Re: kiln operator associations and operator training
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2016, 10:47:32 am »
Gene, Do you know of anybody in Texas that offers classes/ workshops  on Kilns?  woodweasel

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« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2016, 02:00:34 pm »
The Great Lakes Kiln Drying Association will be holding its annual fall meeting in Wausau WI on October 12-14.  For more information on the meeting or joining the association you can check out the association updated website at www.glkda.org.  You can also PM me.

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« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2016, 10:14:45 am »
The Southeastern Dry Kiln Club will meet 10/27 and 10/28. Looks like an interesting schedule of events. Here is a registration form. https://research.cnr.ncsu.edu/blogs/wpe/files/2016/09/Fall-2016-Registration.pdf

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Re: kiln operator associations and operator training
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2016, 09:16:43 am »
The Keystone Kiln Drying Association will meet November 2. You can contact Scott Weikert at forestext@psu.edu. Lunch and meeting will be held at the Appalachian Brewing Company!

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Re: kiln operator associations and operator training
« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2017, 01:45:30 pm »
Great Lakes Kiln Drying Association/Ohio Valley Lumber Drying Association joint spring meeting.

April 13th-14th in Middlebury Indiana.  Lodging at Essenhaus Inn.
Find the registration at this link:
http://nebula.wsimg.com/f213de9d2e88290770ce99318cf521f8?AccessKeyId=C0C46698C192EF4B6C0A&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

You can also PM me for more info.

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