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Storing Logs In Stock Ponds . . . .

Started by TexasTimbers, January 29, 2007, 01:53:05 PM

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TexasTimbers

I know Black Walnut sawdust can send a horse to horsey heaven, so i thought I better ask whether or not storing oak, walnut, ash, sycamore, hickory, and osage in a stock tank will hurt the beeves. I have a bunch of hackberry to store too but that stuff don't keep too well on land - wonder if it's kosher to store hachberry in the tank.

And when you store logs this way, should the ends be sealed first? I would think not but my thinking has got me in trouble before.

So I got more than one question in here i better rephrase.


1) Will the acids etc. stuff in the logs seep out and hurt the cattle?
2) Should they be sealed?
3) Will hackberyy last in a tank better than on land?
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Ron Wenrich

Tannic acid would be a no-no.  Put a piece of oak bark in a bucket of water and see how black the water gets.  That's the tannins at work.  We had a mill get fined for allowing this to go into a creek, and was deemed a hazardous waste.

You would be better off with a sprinkling system.
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SwampDonkey

I know the dyewood (osage) has dies that are readily soluble in water. They used to use the dyes, but have been replaced by synthetics. I don't know if they are toxic. Someone on the forum said that walnut husks were toxic to fish.
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extrapolate85

I know that turtles love mill ponds and was once in Louisiana visiting a mill that had a 10' long gator in its mill pond - named "Fred" whose job was to keep the water moccasin population in check. I don't think mammals like mill pond water, but if you have a herd of turtles, I would go for it.

SwampDonkey

You guys ain't never seen water from a spruce/moss bog. Just as black as coffee, and I've caught trout in those black dark waters believe it or not.
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TexasTimbers

Natural dyes are alive and well. I sell about all the osage dust I create to a lady who rebags it and sells by the ounce on up. I am pretty much giving it to her compared to what she is pulling in on her website prices. :o

So I guess storing them in a stock pond is out. And getting caught by the EPA ain't no fun either if they go wandering through certain pastures. I just don't have any room to store them in my log yard it is loaded up. I have as many logs as I want to get with no where to put them 'cept in a pond. I have access to other tanks with no livestock, I just don't see it as a problem to the environment it has been done for what, since man started logging near rivers and bays?
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TexasTimbers

Man I type slow. When I started there was not these last two. Anywell, I might look for some turtle ponds then ;)
The oil is all in Texas, but the dipsticks are in D.C.

Ron Wenrich

Yes, its been done before, but that doesn't mean there isn't any problems.  I remember seeing something about bark left in a stream that caused problems with some virus or the likes that killed salmon.  A few pieces of bark that fall into streams on a natural basis probably isn't that bad, but when you start to put high concentrations, then you have a problem.
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Coon

Swamp,  I don't think they ever had beaver feaver either. :D :D ;)
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WDH

Most states will require commercial operations to have a permit from the state environmental division if they plan to store wood under water or use a sprinkler system to keep wood wet.  There has to be a stormwater plan, etc.  You might check into that to make sure that you don't get surprised by some regulation that you were not aware of. 
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SwampDonkey

I'd say someone better get sawing and stacking under cover, ;D
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

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