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Started by CHARLIE, February 12, 2003, 08:25:06 PM

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CHARLIE

The percentage of forest for each state, starting with the state with the most forested land.

Maine-90%
New Hampshire-86%
West Virginia-79%
Vermont-78%
Alabama-68%
Georgia-66%
South Carolina-66%
Massachusetts-65%
Virginia-63%
Mississippi-62%
North Carolina-62%
New York-61%
Rhode Island-61%
Connecticut-60%
Pennsylvania-59%
Arkansas-56%
Michigan-53%
Tennessee-52%
Washington-51%
Kentucky- 50%
Louisiana-49%
Oregon-48%
Florida-47%
Wisconsin-46%
Hawaii-43%
Maryland-43%
New Jersey-42%
Idaho-41%
California-39%
Alaska-35%
Minnesota-33%
Colorado-32%
Missouri-32%
Delaware-31%
Ohio-30%
Utah-30%
Arizona-27%
Montana-25%
New Mexico-20%
Indiana-20%
Wyoming-18%
Oklahoma-17%
Nevada-14%
Illinois-12%
Texas-11%
Iowa-6%
South Dakota-3%
Kansas- 3%
Nebraska - 2%
North Dakota - 2%
Charlie
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chet

Charlie, did your source give any distintion between upper and lower Michigan. On another note, I've been all over Utah, and to come up with the figure you have in your chart they must have been counting tumbleweeds.  ;D   ;D   ;D
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J Beyer

The northern part of Wisconsin is very densely populated by trees.  You can drive for miles on end on a paved road and only have a break in the trees along the road big enough for an intersection.  Very few farm fields.  Good place to buy land, setup a mill, and have logs to start with.
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Haytrader

We wouldn't be so high here in Kansas if those Mizzory trees hadn't migrated west across the line.
 :D  :D  :D
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Texas Ranger

Hummph, 11% of Texas is still bigger than most other states. 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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OneWithWood

Sure am glad I live in the correct 20% of Indiana 8) 8)
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Mark M

I think I gonna move to Kansas Toto - they have half again as many trees as we do here in ND.

You don't spose they were a countin telephone poles to get the count up do ya?

Mark

J Beyer

Anyone here has a reason as to why more of the states in the under 10% class don't have more trees?  Is it the soil, past weather history, or not enough tree lovers like us to plant them?
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Mark M

Climate plays a big part. If I remember correctly, when the P/E (precipitation/evaporation) ratio is greater than 1 you will have forests, if not you will have prairies, deserts, etc.

Average precip and temperature act together over a period of 30 years or more as limiting factors that determine the type of desert, grassland, or forest ecosystem found in a particular area.

The following is probably an oversimplification:

Cool Temp + >75 cm of Precip = Northern Coniferous Forest
Temprate + >75 cm of Precip = Decidous Forest
Hot Temp + >75 cm of Precip = Tropical Rain Forest

Cool Temp + 25-75 cm of Precip = Polar Grassland (tundra)
Temprate + 25-75 cm of Precip = Temprate Grassland (prairie)
Hot Temp + 25-75 cm of Precip = Tropical Grassland (savannah)

Cool Temp + <25 cm of Precip = Cool Desert
Temprate + <25  cm of Precip = Temperate Desert
Hot Temp + <25  cm of Precip = Tropical Desert

Mark



J Beyer

This is good stuff for the knowledge base.  :P  Someone put it there for easy reference.
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Texas Ranger

Charlie, after joking about the Texas 11%, I started doing some figuring.  Texas has about 97 counties with timber, bits and pieces.  Or about one third of the state can be called timbered.  I suspect  that there are a few conditions attached to your figures that don't recognise all timber as "timbered".  
The Ranger, home of Texas Forestry

Phorester


The "conditions" was that he didn't count mesquite bushes and tumbleweed as trees.

Tom


Rick Schmalzried

About 5.3% of Alaska  :D  :D














Alaska is 570373 sq mi. 199630.55 sq mi of forrest (@35%)
Texas is 275416 sq mi. or 30295.76 sq mi of forrest. (@11%)
It is interesting to see that the forrests in Alaska would cover about 80% of Texas.
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Tom

How much of Rhode Island would they cover, Rick? :D

Ron Wenrich

Okay, here's how the state acreages line up:

(In thousands of acres)

Alaska -  127,763 - 35%
California - 38,544 - 39%
Oregon - 29,492 - 48%
Georgia - 24,465 - 66%
Montana - 23,289 - 25%
Alabama - 22,086 - 68%
Washington - 21,732 - 51%
Idaho - 21,713 - 41%
Colorado - 21,244 - 32%
Arizona - 19,637 - 27%
North Carolina - 19,331 - 62%
Michigan - 19,269 - 53%
Arkansas - 18,663 - 56%
Mississippi - 18,615 - 62%
Texas - 18,438 - 11%
New York - 18,436 - 61%
Maine - 17,781 - 90%
Pennsylvania - 16,924 - 59%
Minnesota - 16,815 - 33%
Florida - 16,242 - 47%
Virginia - 15,965 - 63%
Wisconisn - 15,990 - 46%
Utah - 15,776 - 30%
New Mexicco - 15,594 - 20%
Missouri - 14,110 - 32%
Tennessee - 13,718 - 52%
Louisianna - 13,662 -  49%
South Carolina - 12,719 - 66%
Kentucky - 12, 717 - 50%
West Virginia - 12,178 - 79%
Wyoming - 11,186 - 18%
Ohio - 7,983 - 30%
Oklahoma - 7,472 - 17%
Nevada - 6,888 - 14%
New Hampshire - 5,510 - 86%
Vermont - 4,617 - 78%
Indiana - 4,591 - 20%
Illinois - 4,269 - 12%
Massachusetts - 3,260 - 65%
Maryland - 2,690 - 43%
Iowa - 2,145 - 6%
New Jersey - 1,994 - 42%
Connecticut - 1,860 - 60%
Hawaii - 1,767 - 43%
Kansas - 1,571 - 3%
South Dakota - 1,457 - 3%
Nebraska - 984 - 2%
North Dakota - 883 - 2%
Rhode Island - 420 - 61%
Delaware - 388 - 31%

Sorry Don, you still don't rate in the top 10.   :D
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chet

Ron, the acreage figures you give, are they merchantable timbered areas.
I am a true TREE HUGGER, if I didnt I would fall out!  chet the RETIRED arborist

carhartted

I heard today that Michigan has more forested acres than all of Europe.  

Interesting
Here's to making sawdust.

Ron Wenrich

Acreage is simply the land area times the % of forested land.  How  much is commercial timberland is questioinable.

I find the % figures to be pretty fascinating.  Here in the east, we cut down all the trees, then moved on.  That allowed the forests to grow back after farming was abandoned.

Areas that you would believe to be sparsely forested, actually have more forestland than others.  The only problme is that in many areas, the land is so fragmeneted that management is nearly impossible.
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johnjbc

Ron
I think you short changed Pa. Its now over 60%. Doesn't sound like much but 1% is about as much forest as Connecticut has   8) 8)
http://www.agriculture.state.pa.us/hardwood/cwp/view.asp?A=3&QUESTION_ID=117435
 
Don't want to give the those Yopper's any extra advantage :D ;D
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Texas Ranger

Hum, still question the source of the numbers.  Converting Texas acreage to square miles and you get half of the commercial forest in East Texas.  And represents only about a third of the productive counties.
The Ranger, home of Texas Forestry

Noble_Ma

No one has mentioned the quality of the forested land versus the quantity?

Rick Schmalzried

Well if we have to consider quality, KS would be further down than it already is.  I grew up in western KS and pretty much anything over 3 trees is considered a forrest.  :D :D

The 12% of trees listed for IL sure looks like lots of trees in comparison.  I was trying to imagine somewhere with 80% forrest and keep coming up short.

--Rick
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Noble_Ma

That's what's so nice about the North Eastern states.  The tree to people ratio is way up there :D  Not that I don't like people, I just like trees better ;D

chet

Rick,  us yoopers can show you 80%, in fact according to MSU figures we are at 84% forestation.   :P     It's dem DanG trolls from da lower dat bring our totals down.   :D   :D    :D
I am a true TREE HUGGER, if I didnt I would fall out!  chet the RETIRED arborist

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