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Started by moosehunter, May 24, 2006, 12:28:14 PM

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moosehunter

My wife went shopping last week. Brought these home.



Eventually some or all be used for decoration in our house.

Can anyone tell us what the different tooth profiles/paterns are?

Mike
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Higher than my expectations
Well, I have really good days".    Ray Wylie Hubbard

Fla._Deadheader


  Look to me like all crosscut, sept for the one on the right.   ;D :) :) :) :)
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Ron Wenrich

The 2 circle saws on the right is what we used to use for cutoff saws.  Also good for taking off a few fingers.  They also were used for cutting firewood on those PTO driven firewood rigs. 

The one on the right is a lot different from any saw I've seen. 

The bottom saws are misery whips, used for cutting trees.  They look like softwood saws, to me. 
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Corley5

Big center on the right saw.  Maybe an edger saw of some sort ???
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Ron Wenrich

How about a top saw or a mud saw?
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Tom

The middle circle blade looks like the blades used on wheel saws. 






Many of those in this area don't have points on the tips of the teeth.  Instead there is a groove that can be sharpened with a rat tail file or straight round file (kinda like a chainsaw file).  Others have filed points and set. 

The saws were used mostly for bucking pulpwood, but, were also used to take down small trees.  They were very dangerous and have been outlawed in the timber industry.

These pictures were taken by Jeff when he visited me this last winter.  We were in Waldo Florida at Tom's Cypress on US-301.

Jeff

I'm still wantin one of those...
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Sawyerfortyish

I got one Jeff it was in a barn on a farm we bought. I saved it from the scrape yard. It's not in the best of shape it was burried in junk in the barn but might still run.

Ianab

Quotebut might still run.

probably better if it didn't   :o :D
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Jeff

Sawyerfortyish, Is it one of these true pulp saws or a buzz rig?  THe pulp saws swivel to horizontal for felling
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Ron Wenrich

Aren't those pulp saws called a sally saw?
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Jeff

The sally saws I am aware of were a ring saw.  almost had a boat moto type look to them. We may have a photo on the forum of one I'll have to look.
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Jeff

Redpowered took these photos awhile back


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dad2nine

Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2006, 08:57:33 PM
The middle circle blade looks like the blades used on wheel saws. 






Many of those in this area don't have points on the tips of the teeth.  Instead there is a groove that can be sharpened with a rat tail file or straight round file (kinda like a chainsaw file).  Others have filed points and set. 

The saws were used mostly for bucking pulpwood, but, were also used to take down small trees.  They were very dangerous and have been outlawed in the timber industry.

These pictures were taken by Jeff when he visited me this last winter.  We were in Waldo Florida at Tom's Cypress on US-301.

Tom - that thing looks like some kind of medevil torture device, don't fire it up!

scsmith42

I'm wondering if the circular blade on the right is from some type of feed mechanism?
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sawguy21

Tom's saw does not look right to me. Is the blade reversed or is it the negative? The engine should rotate clockwise facing the front. Either way, I agree with Ian. I would be scared to use it.
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getoverit

The blade on the right looks like a gear to a big clock.
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Tom





These are pictures of Wheel Saws (also just called Power Saws)
taken in the 1950's.  They were popular for
pulpwood operations, but, outlawed because
of their danger.  The blade could be used
vertically for bucking, or, turned horizontally
for brushing and felling of small trees.

sawguy21

Notice the lack of PPE :D If the blade pinches or hits the ground, that handle is going to give him an awful whack below the belt. Now we know why we have OSHA.
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Sawyerfortyish

The saw I have is a slightly smaller version of Toms. Jeff the blade turns vertical as well as horrizotal. But I don't think it's a pulpwood saw. As there hasn't been a pulp market in N.J. that I've ever heard of. I think it's a brush saw but can't explain why the blade turn vertical. The wheels are solid with a straight tread. The saw blade is about 20" in dia. The moter looks to be about 5 HP.

Dan_Shade

safety is a funny thing, some are super safe all the time, other people never seem to care.  I'd be terrified to use one of those types of saws, but like a lot of things, they may not be so bad if you are very attentive to what you're doing.

maybe someday, people will saw logs with lasers, and look at our pictures and say "no way I'd be near that sharp metal stuff"
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isawlogs

  I , for one , would love to try one of those at least once .
Ya only come around once , might as well make the best of it . Now , I aint ready to jump out of a perfectly good working plane , but this I would really like to try out .
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highpockets

We had one of those when I was a kid. Man, I'm glad I grew up a little.  My uncle bought it for a brush saw but with no drive mechanism, it took a real man to push it into the brush. 
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moosehunter

I forgot all about starting this thread smiley_confused

The large tooth saw does indeed look like a feed wheel now that I have looked at the teeth closer.

Whats the best way to keep the from rusting away? I was thinking of rubbing some oil on them and hanging them out ofthe weather.

Mike
"And the days that I keep my gratitude
Higher than my expectations
Well, I have really good days".    Ray Wylie Hubbard

Sawyerfortyish

If your not going to use them to cut wood why not paint them with black paint

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