Three new toys

Frank_Pender · September 16, 2005, 12:09:46 AM

I just picked up three toys today, new to me. Any guesses? I will try and have alice help in posting pictures tomorrow. Got two of them today and bringing the third home on Saturday. 8)

Furby · September 16, 2005, 12:12:12 AM

New toys for you ???
Could be anything!!!
A hint would help. ;)

Kirk_Allen · September 16, 2005, 09:17:43 AM

A four sided moulder, another Planer, and ANOTHER saw mill :D

Frank_Pender · September 16, 2005, 09:22:02 AM

No new sawmll, not the new St Bernard, two are actual toys, one is an actual working ground moving machine, not the new log loader being built to pull behind the F450, not a new tin hat, nor a new Stihl,

sprucebunny · September 16, 2005, 12:37:43 PM

An attachment for your tractor ???

Jeff · September 16, 2005, 01:15:08 PM

Quoteone is an actual working ground moving machine

A Walker?

Sorry Frank. Couldnt resist. ;)

DonE911 · September 16, 2005, 01:50:59 PM

Ground moving machine.... hmmmmmm .... a post hole digger?

New toys .... thats a tough one.... a tennis racket ? Shuffle board set?? :D :D

Tom_Averwater · September 16, 2005, 02:18:18 PM

did ya get a PHD (post hole digger ) ? Bobcat ?

Timburr · September 16, 2005, 06:44:42 PM

One of the toys....a camera?

Working ground moving machine has to be a shovel or pickaxe :D :D

wiam · September 16, 2005, 08:20:15 PM

Timburr you beat me on the shovel. :D :D

Will

Timburr · September 16, 2005, 08:28:58 PM

Wiam, if I was going to beat you, it wouldn't be on the shovel!! :D :D

Frank_Pender · September 16, 2005, 09:33:12 PM

No hand tools involved. Again two of the items are real toys. They both are the same item, one smaller than the other. They are replicas of equipment used around sawmills.

Gilman · September 17, 2005, 11:19:51 AM

I snuck over to Frank's last night and he's holding out on us, It's not three, but 4 new toys. I took a couple of photos...

:D :D :D :D

Frank_Pender · September 17, 2005, 12:06:22 PM

Close Dave, but no cupi doll. :'(

They are not plastic toys, but puiter. Again, used in the older sawmills from back in the forties, 50's and perhaps some 60's era mills.

One toy is still being used at the Hull Oaks Mill in Bellfountain, Oregon. Some of you puter whizes might be able to find a picture of the toy if you can find the mill site. I have refered the site to the Forum some time back. ;D

Gilman · September 17, 2005, 05:12:23 PM

Pocket full of metal rivets to repair their boiler with?

Jodi · September 17, 2005, 06:37:47 PM

Quote from: Gilman on September 17, 2005, 11:19:51 AM
I snuck over to Frank's last night and he's holding out on us, It's not three, but 4 new toys. I took a couple of photos...

:D :D :D
That was hilarious Gilman

Frank_Pender · September 17, 2005, 07:22:17 PM

Jodi, do not get pulled into David's humor. I believe he is toying with everyone. :D :D :D :D :D

Frank_Pender · September 17, 2005, 07:24:53 PM

Most of the units I am speaking of use to run with a chain drive. Just another hint.

Another: they were developed here in Dallas, if I am not mistaken. ???

Frank_Pender · September 17, 2005, 10:53:12 PM

The person that developed the lifesize machines, at one time had been business partners with the Swindel family.

Another tidbit of trivia, is that the company making the machine use to purchase white lightening from a couple fellas I once knew (now passed on). The made the thirst quenching liquid about 7 miles South of town during prohibition days. The company provided the refreshment in order to keep some of the better machinests and such, You might call it a fringe benefit or overtime pay.

The refreshement producers said, "You weren't really a moonshiner unless you had spent a night or three in the "Pink Pokie" ."

Paul_H · September 18, 2005, 12:50:07 AM

A lumber stacker?

Frank_Pender · September 18, 2005, 09:25:55 AM

What do you mean by a lumber stacker, Paul? ???

Gilman · September 18, 2005, 10:31:44 AM

A prune dryer?

Jeff · September 18, 2005, 10:45:24 AM

Quote from: Gilman on September 18, 2005, 10:31:44 AM
A prune dryer?

HAr HAr HAr :D

Gilman · September 18, 2005, 10:45:42 AM

Here's the summary so far
ground moving machine
two of the items are real toys, both are the same item, replicas of equipment used around sawmills
puiter (pewter? putter? computer? butter? clutter?)
used at the Hull Oaks Mill
run with a chain drive
Swindel family

Tings dey Aint
tin hat
Stihl
Walker
post hole digger
tennis racket
Shuffle board set
Bobcat
Camera
shovel or pickaxe
No hand tools
lumber stacker

I don't know Frank, what the Beep is it?

Frank_Pender · September 18, 2005, 10:51:11 AM

David must be needing some prunes for something? I do use old prune dryer dolly wheels from my kiln dollys, though. 8) 8) 8)

A new hint:

Use to use them for moving lumber from the greenchain area to the holding yard or the planer end.

Gilman · September 18, 2005, 11:45:57 AM

Oh, let me look for a picture.

Timburr · September 18, 2005, 12:11:23 PM

I'm more confused than ever.

But, Frank do I detect a hint of anxiety when Paul mentioned lumber stacker ???
Chain-driven...hhmmm...forklift truck or conveyor belt

Gilman · September 18, 2005, 12:17:55 PM

Paul_H · September 18, 2005, 12:24:43 PM

A stacker of the same design as Gilman shows.The trype that straddled the stack and up she goes 8)

Gilman · September 18, 2005, 12:36:36 PM

I hope it's this Helke stacker, it'd be something to see move on a hillside

Before the arrival of the forklift at North Coast sawmills the process of drying redwood and pine lumber involved lots of hand labor, placing lumber on stickers to air dry in square stacks up to 20 feet in height. The Helke stacker and many home-built versions thereof were designed to elevate the lumber from ground level to the top of the lumber stacks and also to aid when the stacks were broken down for the next step in the lumber finishing operation. A ground crew placed boards in the lugs of the elevating chain. The boards passed over the top of the frame and were removed by the sticking crew on the opposite side of the stacker. When the lumber was dry the stack was dismantled in a reverse operation.
This stacker came from the Louisiana Pacific sawmill in Covelo and dated from the old Crawford Lumber Company, which had operations throughout Mendocino County, including Covelo, Longvale, Ukiah and Potter Valley. Bill Windes and Theron Brown of Louisiana Pacific Corporation made arrangements for the donation of the stacker to Roots of Motive Power in 1998.

Frank_Pender · September 18, 2005, 01:03:11 PM

I do have a well driver, David, but not that big. Mine was used off the backend of duce and a half rigs in the military.

Yep, David and Paul you both win. 8) 8) 8) 8)

They were called a number of things, among them, gitteney, straddle carrier, Gerlinger staddle carrier. It was the Gerlinger boys that deisgned the unit and had been in partnership with Swindels that began Willamette Industries Sawmill operation, here in Dallas, Oregon.

Gilman · September 18, 2005, 01:25:01 PM

One like this? Where's the photos you promised Frank?

Frank_Pender · September 19, 2005, 03:17:41 AM

Where did you get that picture? I want that machine! 8)

Just got in from LaPine , Oregon. We drove 300 miles round trip to pick up two more toys, bigger.

More guesses?

Hints: It is a John Deere, late 40's, early 50's, 2 banger, Orininally built by Lyndiman (sp.),

second big toy: smaller garden "tractor", this model has a three point system, motor is a Wisconsin, probably 15 horse not sure yet, Blue in color, rope start, (yuck),

Third small toy is a replica of the John Deere

Frank_Pender · September 19, 2005, 03:19:44 AM

The two straddle carriers came with the original boxes.

The larger of the two has the number of the unit printed on the box: #51

The smaller of an exact replica as well and in its original box.

Frank_Pender · September 20, 2005, 01:49:47 PM

Well, I had to bring this thread back up, as there wre no guesses for the big toy. It is a 1953 John Deere 40 dozer. 8)

Gilman · September 20, 2005, 06:33:54 PM

Frank,
We need those pics you promised us earlier. ;D

D._Frederick · September 20, 2005, 07:05:03 PM

Frank,

What do you want a toy like a JD 40 for , to close the rutts from what your D5 makes?

Frank_Pender · September 20, 2005, 09:55:09 PM

You got it, Don. 8) 8) 8) 8)

Paul_H · September 20, 2005, 11:31:10 PM

Quote from: Gilman on September 20, 2005, 06:33:54 PM
Frank,
We need those pics you promised us earlier. ;D

I'l say it too,

Frank,
We need those pics you promised us earlier.

BW_Williams · September 22, 2005, 09:12:17 AM

Well y'all, Frank had to send me the pics to post, I can't figure how in the heck he got a Saturn V rocket, a Mercury capsule and a crawler pad from the lauch transporter to Orygon, but DanG, he's a sly old fella! Mr. Pender I'm proud to know ya, did Skyler help with this project! I cant turn my back on that kid for a second

:D

BW_Williams · September 22, 2005, 09:13:48 AM

BW_Williams · September 22, 2005, 09:18:42 AM

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Gilman · September 22, 2005, 11:14:38 AM

:D :D :D :D

Frank, You'd better get those pics up soon, I don't see an end to us "helping" post pics for you ending soon.

Frank_Pender · September 22, 2005, 01:40:00 PM

Yes, MY Friends! 8) 8) 8) 8)

SKYMOM · September 22, 2005, 02:54:24 PM

That Skyler is a cute little rocket launcher ain't he? :D
And he plays well with others toys................... :D

Frank_Pender · September 23, 2005, 12:11:42 AM

If you go to my gallery you will be able to see a number of the new toys: John Deere 40C, dozer (1954), mini toy of the straddle carrier, etc..

Jeff · September 23, 2005, 12:14:08 AM

You FINALLY found something I am willing to trade that powder wedge for. :D

Furby · September 23, 2005, 12:15:53 AM

Where ya gonna store that Jeff ???

Jeff · September 23, 2005, 12:21:35 AM

I could dig a cave.

Furby · September 23, 2005, 12:28:49 AM

Under the doghouse ???

Jeff · September 23, 2005, 12:29:38 AM

anywhere I want. ;D

Furby · September 23, 2005, 12:31:39 AM

Paint it yellow.......... ;)

Who's paying shipping for what?

Frank_Pender · September 23, 2005, 05:10:45 AM

That is a 1954 John Deere 40C.

You had better bring a lunch, Jeff. :D :D After I purchased the 40 C, the folks gave me a replica toy of the same. 8) 8) 8)

NOW, If I could just get the replica Big version of the straddle carrier I would be happy. :'(

beenthere · September 23, 2005, 10:09:53 AM

Frank
Nice find, and it looks to be in good condition.
Is that one a 3 or a 5 roller on the track carriage? I use to have a 420C of the same era ('58), except it didn't have the Deere blade with it. It had a fabricated canopy and not original loader. It was 5 roller.

Frank_Pender · September 23, 2005, 02:39:48 PM

You know, Beenthere, I haven't even looked at the number of rollers. I will do that after lunch in a bit. Yes it is in great shape. I am going to pressure wash it this weekend and get it ready for a new, original paint job later this winter.

Or, the boss would did it for you, Jeff. :D

Gilman · September 23, 2005, 07:05:16 PM

Here's the toy

I just like this photo. Looks like some boards are being made.

Frank_Pender · September 23, 2005, 11:41:45 PM

The bottom picture is a 12' x 54" Douglas Fir from earlier this Summer.

The upper is the smaller of the two straddle carriers. You can see the price on the box was originally $3.95. When I do not know for sure. I suspect in the early '50s some time.