Restoring my little planer

Gilman · April 11, 2005, 01:26:20 PM

Well, after a couple of months of trying to arrange to pick up the 6" x 15" planer I finally made it.
I bought it from Frank Pender who's about 1 1/2 hours away from me. Frank tricked my into buying it from him by asking, "do you want to buy it?" That tricky little phrase gets me every time.

The delay in picking up the planer came from the lack of hualing capacity of my trailer. I was going to pick up the planer with my friend's grandfather with his truck and trailer. But unfortunately his health hasn't been too good lately and we had to keep delaying the trip. I was looking forward to a trip with him, I've never met the man, but by what I hear he has plenty of character. He got arrested when he was 80 for punching out a hippy.

To improve my odds of making it back to Washington, I changed the trailer tires over from passenger tires to the biggest tires that would fit under my fenders. I got the new rims and tires and was off.

Once I got to Frank's he asked if I was going to hual the planer with, "that." "yep," I reply. Frank's eyes widen and says, "Oh David."

Somehow over the few months it took to pick up the mill, my mind trimmed about 4,000 lbs off the planer. I was even shaking my head and wondering what I'd gotten myself into.

Here's the planer after it was loaded. We only broke one old chain trying to lift it up. Frank had a self loader hauling for him that we used to lift the mill. Once lifted, I backed the trailer under it and the operator gently lowered it down. Down Down Down the trailer frame went until it stopped due to the fenders resting on top of the tires.

First step, trick out the trailer.

Second step, More air please. Frank was kind enough to put some more air in my tires.

Made it home. Kathy shows me how to use the planer.

This trailer mod is patented by Frank, He had the good idea of only cutting one side of the fender. I think the air ram design might of even helped!

The next time I buy something from Frank and he tells me it weighs about 10,000 lbs, I'm going to believe him.

Still haven't figured out how to unload it yet.

Jeff · April 11, 2005, 01:34:10 PM

Are you sure you didnt load the bull dozer by mistake?

Gilman · April 11, 2005, 01:42:06 PM

:D :D :D, If I mounted tracks on it I guess I could just drive it off.

Jeff,
I called Kathy's father about a spring boad for Pender to trade with you. He's an old horse logger. He didn't have one but said he'd look around for one. I want to see that charged wedge on my next visit to Frank's.

etat · April 11, 2005, 02:04:52 PM

I agree that sure looks like a lot of iron for just a 'little' planer. :D

Be sure to let us know how you manage to get it off your trailer and parked in your shop.

Fla._Deadheader · April 11, 2005, 03:05:59 PM

Just back it into the shop, and stick a fork in the tires ;D :D :D :D :D

pappy · April 11, 2005, 03:26:03 PM

Good steel rollers and some railroad ties and lots of hardwood blocking a few good hyd jacks

or about 12 guys the size of Unclebuck ;)

Doc · April 11, 2005, 03:34:32 PM

Quote from: pappy on April 11, 2005, 03:26:03 PM
Good steel rollers and some railroad ties and lots of hardwood blocking a few good hyd jacks

or about 12 guys the size of Unclebuck ;)

Pappy, at 10k you may want to change that or 12 guys the size of Uncle Buck to AND 12 guys the size of Uncle Buck.

That puppy is BIG! WOW!

Doc

pappy · April 11, 2005, 03:46:09 PM

Doc,
I stand corrected ;D

Rockn H · April 11, 2005, 04:03:40 PM

Alright Gilman, just what does that planer do? What kind is it? Do you have to saw the tree into boards first or can you just put it in whole? :

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;D ;D

Norm · April 11, 2005, 05:05:23 PM

I know you folks have big trees out that way but HOLY COW! I'm thinking the same as Rockn H, just stick in a old growth DF and stand back while it spits out 2X4's. :D

Doc · April 11, 2005, 05:51:26 PM

the trees would sprout legs and run off seeing that thing coming!

Pappy....I am opting for cheap insurance and saying 14 guys the size of Uncle Buck. That thing looks like a hernia on wheels! Have rupture....will travel.....

Doc

sprucebunny · April 11, 2005, 06:33:25 PM

I think it would be easier in the long run...(think "moving day ") to block up the trailer with the planer on it and buy another one.;D
Then build a floor up around the planer and trailer.

Get a more heavy duty trailer this time .......... That dumps :D

tnlogger · April 11, 2005, 06:52:00 PM

joan i done think ya gots it figged out. :D :D :D

Gilman · April 11, 2005, 07:46:56 PM

Sprucebunny, That might just be the easiest.

It's a four sided planer/moulder. It also came with T&G knives and some moulding knives. I'll have to post some more pictures of the innards.

FeltzE · April 12, 2005, 06:41:38 AM

Cool idea installing it on that trailer like that. Don't forget to take those tires off and store them somewhere safe until you need to move again.

What ya going to power it with?

Eric

Frank_Pender · April 12, 2005, 08:38:48 AM

It was being powered with a short block 250 Cummins. He still has more part to get, a side delivery pully system and a set of mounting brackets that attatch to a cement floor. To take the unit from the trailer when I hauled it home I used a ten ton jack and a piece of 2' piece of iron pipe. I tilted the trailer and it came off in a hurry. 8)

Gilman · April 13, 2005, 11:04:54 AM

I think I changed my plans a bit. I was wanting to convert over to five independent electric motors. One for each head and the power feed. However, this will require 3 phase, motors, sheeves and belts, which I don't have yet. However, If I keep things simple and return it to original, I could simply use an old tractor for the time being and convert over when the demand requires. I imagine I could run quite a few bf in an hour. I'm going to keep the guards simple for now too. I'll just build two area guards for each side. That would make cleanup easier too.

I have two 3600 cfm blowers in God's storage shed. I bought them about ten years ago and was going to use them for my woodshop and metal shop.

asy · April 13, 2005, 07:04:30 PM

Don't worry Gilman...

ONE DAY you'll get a big planer...

Just make do with this one for now...

asy :D

Gilman · April 16, 2005, 06:52:27 PM

Here's question #1.
Anyone know where I can get square wrenches for the planer and moulding clamping bolts?

Straight knife moulding head

I got the collets free in these three heads, but the last head is still in the moulder. It should be a real bugger to get out.

Here's a few more close up photos of the moulder
Infeed end, two of the six powered feed rollers. Better let go of that board!

Moulder and planer section

Fla._Deadheader · April 16, 2005, 07:49:06 PM

Hey, that's pretty slick, taking it all apart, so you can lift it off the trailer. I never wooda thunk a dat. ;D ;D :D :D

Getcha some 8 point sockets. ;) ;) ;D

Stump Jumper · April 16, 2005, 08:09:46 PM

mabey some rust reaper is in the future. ;)

Furby · April 16, 2005, 10:28:54 PM

I belive 12 point sockets will work.

etat · April 16, 2005, 10:38:12 PM

Furby's braver than me.

I 'think' I could see how a 12 point would work but I just can't get it in my head how a 8 point would. I tried to draw it out with both a 8 and a 12 and I kept coming up with a problem with a 8 point in the corners. Unless I ain't lookin at it right.

One things fer sure, if I could once get em out I'd replace em with some regular bolts!

Corley5 · April 16, 2005, 10:45:32 PM

8 point or sometimes referred to as double square. Sometimes a twelve point will work but you run a big risk of rounding off the corners. Just not enough contact between the socket and the bolt or nut head. Sears has them and so does SnapOn. Sometimes you'll find old ones at tractor shows but be wary of these as many were slightly over sized for use on galvanized windmill hardware