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Title: Lumber carts
Post by: olegunslinger on November 14, 2017, 10:44:51 AM
I need about 40 lumber carts total by next summer. We pile lumber 42" wide, 6'-16' long. Ideally I would like some sort of adjustable carts that allows us to pile different lengths using the same cart.

Does anyone know of any manufacturers that makes these, or does anyone have any design ideas that have worked well for them?

Thanks
Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: Kbeitz on November 14, 2017, 10:51:43 AM
This is what I use. Army surplus... I make pallets to fit.



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Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: nativewolf on November 14, 2017, 10:57:59 AM
Welcome!  That's a lot of wood.  Where are you located?
Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: Ron Wenrich on November 14, 2017, 12:04:45 PM
40 carts seems like a lot, and you're going to have a pretty high capital expense.  You can pick up used ones at mill auctions.  That might take awhile for that many.  There's also an outfit in Ky named Froedge Machine that makes lumber carts.  They don't look cheap.  http://lumberhandling.com/solutions/lumber_carts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ewKxBAkOOU

You could build your own or have someone build them for you.  A lot depends how hard you'll use the carts.  We used 6 carts on our mill where we pulled off the green chain.  They got banged up pretty good.
Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: starmac on November 14, 2017, 12:37:59 PM
Kbeitz, beat me to it. Those army surplus carts are generally cheap, can be pulled with anything, and even have the advantage of pulling multiple carts at a time.

If you are wanting to pull them directly into a kiln, I am not sure how the tires would handle it though.
Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: olegunslinger on November 14, 2017, 01:16:12 PM
Ron,

I looked at those from Froedge. We currently have some of those 2 piece carts, but I don't care for them because the back tends to move when you sling boards into the cart. The you end up with a pack that isn't square.

I'm looking for carts that are one piece, but the back is adjustable. I'm thinking I will have to go with a local fabricator but I just wanted to see what was out there!

Thanks
Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: Grizzly on November 14, 2017, 04:12:39 PM
olegunslinger - look again lower on the page. They do have one piece units that I liked the look of. I don't have warehouse flooring so I'd like to see barrow tires or some kind of rough ground tires so I could wheel them around on packed gravel. But the one piece units lower on the page should to the trick for even ended piles and be able to band in place etc.
Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: starmac on November 14, 2017, 04:34:05 PM
now curiosity has set in, what are you doing that you need 40 carts for?? Curious minds want to know. lol
Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: Kbeitz on November 14, 2017, 04:41:18 PM
I found these...

https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/field-tuff-utility-trailer-2200-lb?a=1834408&pm2d=CSE-SPG-15-PLA&utm_medium=PLA&utm_source=Google&utm_campaign=CI&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr9us84K_1wIVCB4rCh38ugcaEAQYASABEgISkfD_BwE

Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: olegunslinger on November 16, 2017, 01:45:44 PM
We are getting a new dry line to sort kiln dried lumber. All together we will have over 60 carts, not all of which will be in use at one time, but it allows for efficient changeovers, etc.
Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: Alligator on November 17, 2017, 12:23:28 AM
In the 50s and 60s we had about fifty lumber carts made similar to this. We used the to tear down A-rack lumber and haul to the planer. We could pull about 6 behind a tractor. They telescoped in the middle between the axles and steered  on the front axle. The tongue attached to the draw bar on the tractor, the next one attached to the rear of the first and so on. Our planer infeed was set up so the tractor could just pull them thru to be unloaded on to the infeed deck. was before we had more than one forklift, maybe before we had a fork lift. I was small 5 to 8 years old. It's a quick simple drawing I can do more detail if you need.

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Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: PA_Walnut on November 17, 2017, 05:10:39 AM
Kbeitz, where do you score those carts like yours? I've looked, but to no avail.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: Kbeitz on November 17, 2017, 10:04:14 AM
I see them every years at Fraley Auction Co., Inc.

http://www.fraleyauction.com/

Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: irvi00 on November 17, 2017, 05:51:29 PM
My dad scored some old airport baggage carts at an auction. They work great with 12 ft. or less lumber.
Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: Kbeitz on November 17, 2017, 05:56:01 PM
Looks like some for sale here...

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=1807&acctid=204

Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: Seavee on November 17, 2017, 07:50:27 PM
The auction kbeitz listed is not far from me. I can arrange to pick them up if that helps anyone. I would like to by one. Just looked the auction closed. Someone got all 5 for $675.
Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: 4x4American on November 17, 2017, 11:04:54 PM
There was an ad in American Lumber and Pallet they had carts there I can't seem to find that ad in the one next to me.  I'm not sure if TS MFG would do something like that I know they do some custom stuff though..


http://www.tsman.com/index.htm
Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: campwags on November 28, 2017, 11:48:46 AM
I have just recently discovered Kory Farm Equipment that sells running gear and tops to make up your own lumber carts.

http://www.koryfarm.com/products/home-hobby/model-3000.php

The gear is $1,186.00

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45902/model-3000-large2.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1511887084) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45902/fb-48-kory.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1511887596)

Fed Ex just dropped of the running gear I ordered from Sportsman's Guide... ;D  I will put it together and post on it.   8)
Title: Re: Lumber carts
Post by: moodnacreek on November 28, 2017, 07:24:48 PM
If you don't have to back up you could use sleds.