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Title: Insect/disorder id
Post by: caveman on October 29, 2017, 01:36:15 pm
I am helping to prepare some of the students from the school which I used to teach at for their state FFA Forestry Contest.  I took a few pictures of some that were a little challenging in the past and I would like to ensure that I teach them right on these samples in case they use them again.

Thanks, Kyle
 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22883/image~183.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1478717127) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22883/image~184.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1478717128) The two pictures above are of the same sample from a pine.  Would you call it heart rot or red heart of pine?

 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22883/image~456.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1509296060)
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 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22883/image~451.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1509295932)
Are those above woodborers?
 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22883/image~449.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1509295929) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22883/image~450.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1509295929)

I am not sure about the last two, but I was thinking they may be pine sawfly. 

Unfortunately, the foresters setting up the event do not always show the damage or the larva, which often does the damage but you "get what you get".  I would be thankful for your help.
Kyle
Title: Re: Insect/disorder id
Post by: caveman on October 31, 2017, 07:05:16 pm
I need a little help here. 
Title: Re: Insect/disorder id
Post by: Texas Ranger on October 31, 2017, 11:47:41 pm
I would call it red heart, but either work.  Picture 4 long horn beetle with click beetles, i collected click beetles out of dead wood.  Need to get the book out for more of this.
Title: Re: Insect/disorder id
Post by: ljohnsaw on November 01, 2017, 12:43:39 am
(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22883/image~451.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1509295932)
Are those above woodborers?
I think the one on the lower right is just a Cicada (sp) that looks most like a giant house fly.  They life their life under ground only to emerge every 6 or 7 years to procreate and die.  Unless those are hard wing covers - hard to tell from the picture - then I don't know... :-\
Title: Re: Insect/disorder id
Post by: caveman on November 01, 2017, 09:19:59 pm
Thanks fellas.  I did not post pics of any cicadas.  Sorry my pics are not of very good quality.  We have thousands of cicadas here every day during the summer.  We will spend some time tomorrow afternoon going over some specimens and will also spend some time in the woods if the weather is decent.
Title: Re: Insect/disorder id
Post by: caveman on November 09, 2017, 09:55:03 pm
The team from the school that I have taught at for the past 22 years competed today and eked out a win in the state FFA forestry contest.  Evidently the foresters made the key wrong on the disorder portion-they called pine needle rust pine scale, but it did not affect the outcome of the top two teams' results.  I am very proud of these students for their accomplishment.

I did not accompany them since I was at my new school teaching 9th graders how to strike an arc and how to coil a bandsaw blade.