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Title: What is it
Post by: 21incher on September 27, 2017, 02:23:47 PM
I was picking through some old boxes of my dads tools and found this little thing.


 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/34694/IMG_0067.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1506535731) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/34694/IMG_0068~0.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1506535731) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/34694/IMG_0069.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1506535733)
I have no idea what it is used for

I also found this


 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/34694/IMG_0070.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1506535733) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/34694/IMG_0071.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1506535734)
And think It mat be some kind of drill stop as everything was in 1 box and it seemed to clamp on the drill pretty tight.


 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/34694/IMG_0072.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1506535735)

I also found a couple funny looking drill bits that I was wondering what they would be used for.


 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/34694/IMG_0065.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1506535729) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/34694/IMG_0066.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1506535729)
It almost looks like they would make a tapered hole. :)

Title: Re: What is it
Post by: LittleJohn on September 27, 2017, 03:02:18 PM
My best guess is that the bottom two pictures, of the "bits" are just that, bits for a bit and brace (first cordless hand drill).  no idea for why they are tapered, other than maybe to reduce the cutting forces, or for chip removal.  Drill bits for powered tools would have a straight shaft at the ends, not the tapered diamond ;)

...all the other tools no idea.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: Savannahdan on September 27, 2017, 04:14:42 PM
The first one appears to be a Stanley bit depth gauge (does it have 575 on it?) and the second one is a bit depth gauge as well.  I like that the second one has the v-groove for holding the drill bit.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: 21incher on September 27, 2017, 05:14:21 PM
Quote from: Savannahdan on September 27, 2017, 04:14:42 PM
The first one appears to be a Stanley bit depth gauge (does it have 575 on it?) and the second one is a bit depth gauge as well.  I like that the second one has the v-groove for holding the drill bit.
Yes it does it has a 575 stamped on each half. Thanks, I would have never figured that one out I thought it was a part of another tool that was long gone. I was just about ready to send it to the junkyard for kbeitz to find. There is no question that goes unanswered on the Forestry Forum.  :)
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: DelawhereJoe on September 27, 2017, 05:22:56 PM
Those old bits with the square bottom end look like they go you one of the old hand crank drills, the kind with the spunning middle wood handle and the spinning flat wood top. There is a chance they are so old that they have just been worn down from sharpening or breaking then sharpening again.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: Larry on September 27, 2017, 10:14:15 PM
Quote from: DelawhereJoe on September 27, 2017, 05:22:56 PM
Those old bits with the square bottom end look like they go you one of the old hand crank drills, the kind with the spunning middle wood handle and the spinning flat wood top.

Young one, that's called a brace.  Every telephone installer in the world (over the age of 37) knows what they are and how to use one. ;D ;D

Wooop's, we don't have telephone installers anymore. :D  Showing my age. :-\
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: DelawhereJoe on September 27, 2017, 11:23:29 PM
I've got 2 of them, but have only known them as hand powered drill. If I called them a hand powered drill it made more reference to the hand cranked gear driven ones. But thank you for telling me the correct name for it.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: 21incher on September 28, 2017, 08:14:08 AM
Quote from: DelawhereJoe on September 27, 2017, 05:22:56 PM
Those old bits with the square bottom end look like they go you one of the old hand crank drills, the kind with the spunning middle wood handle and the spinning flat wood top. There is a chance they are so old that they have just been worn down from sharpening or breaking then sharpening again.
I have a couple of braces and a stack of regular bits, but these 2 bits and a couple more have a totally  different angle, cutting edge, and tip style. They do not drill wood very good and just tear out splinters. Wondering if they were made for drilling a different material. :)
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: SlowJoeCrow on September 28, 2017, 08:31:25 AM
The cutting tips on the drill bits look like drill bits for tile/porcelain/glass.  Bet they were for that??
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: low_48 on October 02, 2017, 12:09:57 AM
The tapered ones look like gimlets to me. Usually the hand turned ones have a thread on the end to pull them into the wood, but with an tang on the end that wouldn't be needed.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: Don P on October 02, 2017, 02:38:23 PM
it is interesting that the bit and brace were probably made by Fuller mfg back in the day and we call a tapered drill bit nowadays a fuller bit... where's Paul Harvey, there has to be a rest of the story.
Looking at the overall bit, that lowermost tapered bit, I don't think this is the first generation it has passed through, they were using designs like the spoon bit and other ideas then, it could be early tech.
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: 21incher on October 05, 2017, 08:02:22 PM
I am wondering if the tapered bits could have been for drilling plaster walls to install wires or the old ceramic insulators. :)
Title: Re: What is it
Post by: low_48 on October 07, 2017, 12:16:26 AM
Here's an article on sharpening gimlet bits.
http://brfinewoodworking.com/sharpening-gimlet-bits/