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General Forestry => Forestry and Logging => Topic started by: s grinder on August 02, 2012, 08:24:45 AM

Title: logging truck for hire
Post by: s grinder on August 02, 2012, 08:24:45 AM
What would it be worth per hour to hire out a truck to work for a couple of small tree companys that don't have a grapple truck?
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Post by: Decked on August 02, 2012, 09:04:15 AM
It shouldn'd be any less than a dozer/operator, or any other construction machine fee in your area...
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Post by: beenthere on August 02, 2012, 12:05:55 PM
Talking truck and operator? Or just the truck?
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Post by: Dave VH on August 02, 2012, 12:45:25 PM
I would love to hire one around here in southwestern Mi, but I would hesitate by the hour.  Maybe by the load with a per mile cost might be more fair? I don't really know, but it sure would be handy.  Good idea, you've got something that the smaller guys don't, and need.
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Post by: lumberjack48 on August 02, 2012, 01:35:07 PM
30 yrs ago i would rent a skidder in the winter months so we could get as much wood out as we could before the frost went out. I payed $1750.00 a month, i had to buy the oil and fuel and the rigging for it. They fixed the tires or any mechanical problems. If for any reason they had to bring it in to the shop, they brought another skidder out to replace it. If for any reason i lost a day with it, they gave it back to me at the end of the month. I ran it 7 days a week, plus snowplowing at night.
I would rent it out by the month for a flat rate, they buy the fuel,they pay for the month when they pick it up. This flat rate per month would be the same with you driving it, you charge by the hour for driving it, this way theres no money out of your pocket.
Title: Re: logging truck for hire
Post by: s grinder on August 02, 2012, 03:55:52 PM
I'M talking truck & [me] operator,go to the job,pick up the wood, so they don't have to buck it up to handle it,drop it off where they want it,and charge  time consumed per hour, with a min. charge.Would cut their time on the job,just trying to figure what the service would be worth per hour.
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Post by: chevytaHOE5674 on August 02, 2012, 04:14:48 PM
About this time last year I was paying a guy 90 bucks an hour to provide the logging truck and operator. He was loading his truck with 8500~9000 bdft and hauling it 6 miles down the road and loading the wood onto a railcar.

That was his by the hour rate, can't remember what he charged by the mile or bdft for "regular" trucking.
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Post by: T Welsh on August 02, 2012, 05:16:37 PM
We pay about $90.00 an hour for contract hauling. We try to haul our own ,But some times we are swamped and have to move wood fast. Tim
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Post by: Peter Drouin on August 02, 2012, 07:13:16 PM
Hi all; It cost me 85 an hr to move some logs.  :)
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Post by: s grinder on August 02, 2012, 07:59:01 PM
Thanks guys,i figured around $90.00 per hour.
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Post by: barbender on August 02, 2012, 09:00:53 PM
I'd only do that kind of work by the hour, there are too many variables. It's different when you're hauling wood from a landing pile to a mill, then you can charge by the mile (by the cord up here, based on mileage). If you're doing tree work, it might be 5 logs at the Smith's, 2 loads at the Jones', and 1 log and a pile of brush at the Anderson's. 4 miles and 7 hours, hope you didn't charge by the mile on that. ::) I'd say around $100/hr, maybe a little less if they kept you busy all day.
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Post by: Ianab on August 02, 2012, 09:33:33 PM
Other one to consider is to charge hours and mileage as separate items. That way if you are messing about for an hour getting logs loaded, but not actually running up miles on the truck you are charging less, but not burning fuel and putting miles on the truck. Dunno... $60 hr for the driver, $1 a mile for the truck?

If they have you messing about on small jobs and only driving 4 miles, at least you get paid for the hours, and don't have to refuel.

Spend all day on the open road and clock up 300 miles AND the 7 hours? Then you charge more to cover the truck running costs.

But whether is costs them $61 hour or $120 hr depends on what you are actually doing. It costs YOU a different amount depending on what you are doing.

Ian
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Post by: Bobus2003 on August 02, 2012, 11:29:42 PM
Always been charged by the ton.. Ranged from $4-$14, coulda been more if i sent to a mill a bit further away
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Post by: higgins16 on August 05, 2012, 07:00:19 AM
We pay our trucker by the ton, he gets $16 a ton for hard wood pulp,$13 a ton for hard wood logs, and $10 on soft wood logs. The pulp mill is about 80 miles away, hard wood logs about 50, and soft wood logs about 20. He averages 35 ton a load.
Title: Re: logging truck for hire
Post by: NWP on August 06, 2012, 04:29:44 PM
I charge $120 per hour for my grapple truck to pick up tree service debris.  Sometimes I just charge by the load, but I always figure a 2 hr minimum.  It would also depend on what you do with the debris.  Do you have to pay to get rid of it, dump it somewhere for free, or use the wood for a value added product?