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Offline ForestMan

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Battery operated chain saws
« on: January 03, 2018, 04:02:58 AM »
I am interested in buying a battery operated chain saw.  Reasons include avoiding noise and exhaust and to add portability to my electric chain saw.  I like the fact that with my electric chain saw, all I have to do is add chain oil, plug it in, and I'm cutting.  I don't have to mess with mixes, worry about biofuels messing up my saw, or issues pulling a cord to start my saw.  The drawback, of course, is the length of the cord.  If I could cut the cord and make an electric saw portable, that would be good.  I have heard that batteries have come a long way and you get decent cut time now.  What kind of price and brands are we talking about for a decent saw?  It does not have to be professional, but sturdy.  Thanks for any input you can give me.
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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2018, 05:42:02 AM »
There is a couple of active threads going right now, one on the new husky and one on stihl.
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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2018, 10:02:25 PM »
I bit the bullet and bought a Stihl MS200C-BQ this summer- took a month to get here because it was backordered. That was disappointing, but a good sign that others were getting them too.
The saw has been excellent. They say to sharpen it more frequently than gas-powered saws. I use it for many purposes- limbing trees, cutting firewood & close-up work/brush clearing. I have dropped several 12"+/- trees with it.
The saw takes some time getting through thick stuff, even with the 14" bar over the 12". I was cutting oak firewood and had a couple 20"+ logs to cut. Took a lot of effort, but I prefer it to the noise and maintenance of gas powered saws, especially for smaller limbs.


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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2018, 11:11:02 AM »
The smaller the bar the faster it will cut.  Also the more agressive and narrower the chain the faster itll go.

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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2018, 12:28:03 PM »
A small generator and a wagon may cost less than a new battery saw.  Just a thought.   ;)

I like my Oregon battery pole saw and have friends that like the Oregon battery chainsaw a lot.  Nice feature for the chainsaw is you stick the scabbard on and run the chain a couple seconds and POOF, it's sharp.   :o

I may get one of the chainsaws eventually.  The batteries interchange between it and the weedeater and polesaw I already have and can be purchased as a bare tool at lower price.   Or swap batteries and keep cutting.  ;)
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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2018, 06:04:06 PM »
Whether you buy a Stihl or Husqvarna battery saw, make sure either saw is converted to the Stihl 71PM chain.
This chain is a extended pitch .043" 1/4" chain that takes a small diameter 1/8 " file.

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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2018, 06:05:34 PM »
They have their place but aren't for everybody .By the same token not everybody would have use for a 100 plus cc gasoline chainsaw .

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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2018, 10:07:20 PM »
Why would it be recommended to sharpen the chain more often than a gas saw? A gas saw should have a sharp chain too.
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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2018, 11:39:56 PM »
I was told by the Stihl dealer that my battery-powered saw produces less cutting power and therefore puts more wear on the chain. Not sure what cc equivalent gas saw he was comparing it to.

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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2018, 05:49:31 AM »
It would not necessarily put more wear on the chain .It's just the fact the chain would require to be kept much sharper to preform well .
I think these things are like a battery drill motor .They will drill a hole but it would take forever with even a slightly dull drill bit .Like an old farmer once told me .Son a sharp tool will make you money,a dull one will cost you .

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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2018, 10:04:32 AM »
By the way, does anyone know why most electric and battery powered saws have a different type of throttle trigger lockout switch than gas saws? Except for a few Husqvarna models (436Li, 536Li, and 321EL), all of the electric saws I've seen have thumb-operated switches, while all gas powered saws have the switch on top of the handle that you press with the palm of your hand.

I have not used any of the electric saws with thumb-operated switches, so I can't compare, but the palm operated switches found on gas saws are engaged simply by holding the saw, so they must be more comfortable to use. Maybe the reason for thumb-operated switches is that your thumb would more easily slip away from the switch on kickback, possibly engaging the chain brake or something? If that is the reason, why is this safety feature only needed for electric saws? As far as I know, all gas saws still have the palm operated switches, even homeowner models.

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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 10:52:43 AM »
I think that has something to do with children, a small kid isn't going to have the ability to push down with their thumb and squeeze the trigger. Whereas a paddle on top to unlock the trigger is very easily pushed down, kinda like the battery circle saws.
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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2018, 11:56:19 AM »
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I think that has something to do with children, a small kid isn't going to have the ability to push down with their thumb and squeeze the trigger. Whereas a paddle on top to unlock the trigger is very easily pushed down, kinda like the battery circle saws.
Thanks, it never occurred to me that child proofing was necessary here, because my only experience with electric saws is Husqvarna, and they have a "power on" switch that needs to be pressed and held for a second to activate the saw, and it deactivates automatically if the saw is not used for a minute or so.  If Husqvarna is the only manufacturer having an activation switch on their saws, it explains why only they have the gas-style throttle trigger lockout.

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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2018, 01:41:46 PM »
I'd guess it's not just children that the safety interlock is designed to protect. If anyone picks up a non running gas saw, it doesn't matter how you grab it, it's not going to magically start up and bite you. If it's running, then it's obvious to almost everyone that you need to be careful.

But an electric saw is sitting there doing nothing, but can start instantly. Hence it's a "hazard", and needs some sort of interlock, that requires a particular user action to activate. They certainly shouldn't be able to start simply by grabbing the handle.
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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2018, 02:24:14 PM »
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They certainly shouldn't be able to start simply by grabbing the handle.
Sure, but do the new type of throttle lockout buttons eliminate that risk though? I guess it varies depending on where the button is placed and how you need to press it to engage it, but based on pictures I've seen, it looks like you can still accidentally press both the throttle and the lockout button if you lift the saw by the rear handle.

In my opinion, Husqvarna's solution is the best one. Keep the traditional and more more ergonomic lockout trigger, and have a separate activation switch that you can't easily press by accident.

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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2018, 03:13:26 PM »
I'm still waiting for Stihl to offer a top handle battery saw. So I have to settle for a Husqvarna T536 LiXP which I've run in my operation for a few years now.
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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2018, 04:31:11 PM »
I'm still waiting for Stihl to offer a top handle battery saw.
Doesn't MSA 160 T ( https://www.stihl.com/stihl-msa-160-t-arborist-saw.aspx ) count?

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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2018, 06:04:54 PM »
I guess I am missing something.

If that little is a great professional quality aerial saw, that does the job well with no annoyances, plus is very safe and reliable, why is it you consider it that you have to settle for it over a stihl? Is it a dealer thing?
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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2018, 06:07:21 PM »
I'm still waiting for Stihl to offer a top handle battery saw.
Doesn't MSA 160 T ( https://www.stihl.com/stihl-msa-160-t-arborist-saw.aspx ) count?
Thanks for sharing Zoltar.  But as far as I know the MSA 160T is still not available in North America.
Still not available here in Canada when I last checked.
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Re: Battery operated chain saws
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2018, 06:12:15 PM »
I guess I am missing something.

If that little is a great professional quality aerial saw, that does the job well with no annoyances, plus is very safe and reliable, why is it you consider it that you have to settle for it over a stihl? Is it a dealer thing?
Still can't buy a top handle Stihl battery saw here yet.
The 160T is available in Europe , Australia but not here in North America yet as far as I can see.
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