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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2017, 08:40:02 PM »
its all about the food.

My feathers not ruffled just didn't care for the direction the thread was heading.

Its all good. I do like the ppl on this forum more than almost all the other forums I frequent. Course you guys can't beat my own forum :)
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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2017, 10:15:35 PM »
Old joke, hunter shoots a "deer", cowboy says " Can I get my saddle off?
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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2017, 10:30:15 PM »
   coming up on a city slicker dragging a wild burro he had shot and was bragging about his "mule deer". The writer said he never said a word and even helped him drag it a while. Writer did say he always wondered what it tasted like. :D (See - all threads do eventually get back to food one way or another ;D)
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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2017, 09:10:36 AM »
Tex,

   Yes, I had heard that one.

Coxy,

   Are you saying that even an old burro would be a tasty meal as long as you served him with a good helping of well cooked grits? They are a wonderful food but even they have some limits. :D
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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2017, 04:07:10 PM »
every thing food related must have the word grits in it  I don't eat them  steve_smiley steve_smiley  cfarm and I are on the same page with them but he has a box of them at home  :o  I wont let them in my house  :D

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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2017, 05:42:51 PM »
Ayup,I have a lifetime supply of grits.  ;D
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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2017, 07:21:19 PM »
I have a 25-06 and I shoot 120 grain hp's or 117 grain btsp's both is pured hell on a deer the last one I shot left a big hole when it came out at 125 yards
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« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2017, 10:04:21 PM »
Yup, as long as you pay attention to ballistic coefficient charts you are OK.
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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2017, 07:31:49 AM »
I still keep thinking about a 243. Would love to build and AR but NY safe act is a killer there and the .223 round is in my opinion a little to small for deer.
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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2017, 09:42:56 AM »
Yup. If Remington ever makes a model 7 left hand I'll buy one if it's in an acceptable caliber, and .243 is on my short list, mostly 'cause I don't own one.  There's a dizzying array of calibers that weren't around 50 years ago when I first started hunting with my Dad.  Back then it was the 30.06 or the 30-30 around these parts.  Other calibers existed,  and I could read about them in outdoor magazines,  but they were all used in places I could only dream about hunting  and species I could only fantasize about as a 10 year old. .243 and the .270 have managed to stand the test of time.  It will be interesting to see how many of the current crop of new calibers make the grade. My guess is not many.

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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2017, 09:44:46 AM »
Going back to the burro story, my highschool  wood shop teacher worked in a filling station growing up, one day an out of state car full of hunters pulled up and were so proud of all the "quail" they'd gotten.  They popped the trunk to show him and he said it was full of meadowlarks, our state bird  :D.  He said I just let them go and didn't tell them any different.

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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2017, 10:24:52 AM »
.243 is the smallest caliber allowed for game hunting here in SK. Probably more of Canada cause I seem to remember that it was that way in BC as well. Smaller caliber's were leaving too many wounded critters not being found.

My son took down a nice bear with his .243. It's hanging on the wall now. (just the rug)

We've got 30-30, .270, .243, and .223 in our house so lots of arguments........ sorry, discussions take place. I tease that the 30-30 is like a good quarterback. So long as the bullet spirals instead of tumbles it'll go a little ways. Stirs quite a bit of reply.  ;D
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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2017, 10:47:09 AM »
I guess ya'll are really going to have a field day when I tell you I hunt with a 30-06, 200 grain.
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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2017, 11:40:47 AM »
LeeB:  are those round nose?  I shoot 150 for deer and 180 for elk, 30.06.  Somewhere in the range of 250-300 yds uphill, (I say 250, buddies say much longer) I shot an elk that the bullet went thru the right front shoulder/leg (tricep?) muscle, thru one side of rib cage clean, no internals (which is weird), barely nicked a rib bone other side, thru the same opposite muscle left shoulder and lodged against the hide, no exit hole!  Tumbled down the hill, broke a tine, finally bled out. Perhaps that is my effective max range? Or a freak shot?  Most kills have been relatively close since then.

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« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2017, 11:55:22 AM »
Here in Georgia our deer tend to be smaller size, and distances also tend to be short-  75 yds or so.  maybe even 50 yds or less.  'gators get some size to them, but a .22 is what most people use for them. Shot placement is everything.  As far as shooting Brown Bears, I've been up close and personal with Ursus Horribilis, and Horrible describes their breath perfectly.  I'd want something with a lanyard to shoot one. My buddy's .35 Whelen maybe.

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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2017, 12:07:20 PM »
.243 is the smallest caliber allowed for game hunting here in SK. Probably more of Canada cause I seem to remember that it was that way in BC as well. Smaller caliber's were leaving too many wounded critters not being found.

My son took down a nice bear with his .243. It's hanging on the wall now. (just the rug)

We've got 30-30, .270, .243, and .223 in our house so lots of arguments........ sorry, discussions take place. I tease that the 30-30 is like a good quarterback. So long as the bullet spirals instead of tumbles it'll go a little ways. Stirs quite a bit of reply.  ;D
That must have been an extremely well placed shot, normally a .243 would just make the bear mad.
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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2017, 12:48:58 PM »
I'm quite sure 200 grain is way overkill for what i hunt, laugh- haven't shot a deer in years. It's just what I started with and didn't know any better or different so stayed with it. Actually I moved down a notch to 180 the last couple of times I shot one. Our deer aren't real big and now that I have learned a little something here I'm quite sure I don't even need that. I do want to try hunting with a diferent rifle and have thought about a 243. I'm no big hunter. Know very little about different guns. I just remember my brother had a 243 when we were younger. Last thing I shot with the 30-06 was a big wild boar and he dropped in his tracks.
 
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« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2017, 01:39:35 PM »
It's true, so many folks grew up hunting what they were taught with, and of course what worked.  After working nearly 20 years with an Austrian tool maker,/trophy hunter,  I've learned plenty about whats' expected in different area's and countries for that matter.  All that said, it's a common conversation around these parts about calibers and loads, and the funny thing is and I've heard it many times over, " why there's been more deer killed with a 30-30 than any other gun around these parts,"  And I am close to believing it, my first deer was with a model 94 Winchester 30-30, and to add salt to the wound of a few missed (good bucks) with a bow, only found out the one of them was shot with none other than a 30-30, a ten year old's first deer,  :D   go figure, that one,,back the the main point, there will always be folks with guns that just should not have them, and others that are of the greedy (early season) hunters, and night time hunters, well, not much to say,, lower than dirt,
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« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2017, 03:41:37 PM »
,back the the main point, there will always be folks with guns that just should not have them,

Pretty much. Hunting related accidents seem to be on the decline, at least around here, but the number of firearms related accidents have been on the increase, with the increased popularity of carrying or owning a firearm for self defense. I really shouldn't call them accidents, my safety director at the phone company didn't believe such a thing existed. Some outcomes are predictable. Leaving a loaded firearm where a curious 5 year old can get their hands on it. It happens all too often down here.

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Re: Hunter safety
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2017, 09:03:01 PM »
PatD sent her .243 to E. R. Shaw many years ago and had it re-barreled to a 7mm-08.  It is sweet shooting and what I shot the coyote with this morning.  140 gr. bullet is dead meat and I have lost track of how many deer she has killed with it.

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