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Skid loader for firewood
« on: November 11, 2017, 10:32:44 pm »
We've been using one of our forwarders to load the processor and that works great, but also need something that can fork pallets and kiln baskets around easily.   And move dirt etc if needed.   I have been looking into the high flow option in the event I can pick up some mowing or mulching work.

Lift will have to be in the 3000 lb range I think.  The ctl machines seem to have a lot more lift and stability from what I hear.    I've been taking to the local dealers and so far they've got a case 450ct and a Deere 323.   Also I've been watching some auctions and the cat 247 and 259 machines seem nice.   

What is everyone's input?

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Re: Skid loader for firewood
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 11:40:18 pm »
The CTL machines are certainly more stable, and the added weight in the UC gives them additional lifting capacity. I've only ran an older Cat 287 (ASV uc) and a new Case 450ct. I put quite a few hours on that Cat, and it was well used when the company got it. In fact, it was the first machine Cat had set up with the ASV uc. ADV set it up and torture tested it. Other than a catastrophic engine failure (oil pump issue, it was common) it actually ended up being a good machine. The Case, I was only around for one season I think. It was a nice machine, as far as durability I don't know because I didn't stick around. I do know that company is running a Cat 279 now.I was just visiting a guy the other day (rented a firewood processor from him actually) he has an excavating company, currently he is running a Bobcat CTL. He had a Cat 257, he said it was laid out nice, a nice quiet machine and he really wanted to like it but it was always broke down.
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Re: Skid loader for firewood
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2017, 08:45:57 am »
Yes, as you guys said, ctl provide more lift and stability. My T190 increased the tipping load 2500# compared to the wheel machine. It handles much better in the woods for me than the tire machine with tracks over tires. [If you're considering a forestry mulcher]. The one thing a firewood guy needs with a ctl is a SMOOTH wood yard. when the ground freezes, any little bump or rut is hard on those things. [And me] :'( Cat does make some nice tracked machines.
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Re: Skid loader for firewood
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2017, 09:38:51 am »
If your truck piles are high you may need to knock them down to 8 feet . Its scary in the cab when that pile lets g and the logs come butt first and try to get in the cab .
A bunch of chainsaws a BT6870 processer and not near enough time

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Re: Skid loader for firewood
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2017, 10:30:01 am »
If your truck piles are high you may need to knock them down to 8 feet . Its scary in the cab when that pile lets g and the logs come butt first and try to get in the cab .
I had one come in the cab with me. There is not a lot of room when you weigh 200 lbs but some how I made room. The machine went to the shop and when I got done making a log proof door my only worry now is can my lard behind fit thru the door in the roof if I cannot open the front one

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Re: Skid loader for firewood
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2017, 10:58:01 am »
3000Lbs will need to be a big skid steer.

Sounds like an all terrain forklift would suit what you need now, and they can be had real cheap.  (I'm bringing one home tomorrow!)

How much $ do you want to put into equipment for jobs you "might" get.  Plus, it'd be good to keep something at the yard as apposed to shuttling equipment back from a jobsite. 
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Re: Skid loader for firewood
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2017, 01:15:20 pm »
I was just looking over a Kubota machine, one nice feature is that the door slides up overhead, like a lot of excavators, instead of swinging on a hinge. The first time your loader settles and raises a bit from fully down you will realize the benefit of this😊 I really wouldn't want a track machine if it was primarily used in a wood yard, I'd get a big enough wheel machine for the lift capacity I needed.  It's a lot more money running around on tracks if you don't need them. Don't get me wrong, all else being equal I'd take the track machine every time, but does it make $$ sense?
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Re: Skid loader for firewood
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2017, 02:31:25 pm »
Does the 190 work well pclem?    I'd be using for virtually the same application you use yours for.   Our wood yard is mostly paved or compacted crushed rock so it's nice and flat and will stay that way.

Not looking to spend a ton but it seems that any machine with a decent lift capacity is 15 k +

I don't think those off-road forks would fit into the kiln.

Log piles are low, and we using a forwarder mostly for loading the processor now.  It's a spare machine so it's not moving back and forth to the woods.

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Re: Skid loader for firewood
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2017, 02:38:49 pm »
There was a Pettibone with a JD diesel just sold for $ 3500 . Self leveling sit still and use the push to load the kiln plus $ wheel drive .
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Re: Skid loader for firewood
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2017, 04:16:06 pm »
A telehandler might do the trick, but I unloaded the baskets out of it once with a terex tele and it was kind of sketchy.   Granted, I don't run one of them daily but a 20-25 ft extension the forks had a lot of play.   And that was with the baskets empty.   Also looking to use the machine to load the processor on mobile jobs.  A Pettibone would be a bit more difficult to move around d wouldn't it?

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Re: Skid loader for firewood
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2017, 07:06:30 pm »
It works great for me, but my baskets are a little smaller than the ones you buy from kiln direct. Mine hold a touch more than 1/3 cord, and kiln directs are 1/2 cord they say. I do need to build baskets to fill up the kiln more, but they will still hold about the same amount. I'm sure my 190 wouldn't lift the 1/2 cord baskets. Barbender is right, if you only need a machine for the wood yard, get the wheels. I sure do like the ctl when I need it in the woods though! ;) Maybe you already know this, but they market the machines with different lift capacities. For instance, the bobcat s175, s185 and s205 can all lift the same, they just say 1750#,1850# and 2050#. So my old s175 was the same exact frame as the 205, and could lift the same. The engines are just different sizes. It's the same with the s250 and s300. They will both lift 3000#. [Same frame].I'm not familliar with other manufacturers model numbers, but would bet they are the same. You can probably get a forklift cheaper, but it sure is hard to beat the versatility of a skidloader.
Dyna SC16. powersplit. supersplitter. firewood kilns.bobcat T190. ford 4000 with forwarding trailer. a bunch of saws, and a question on my sanity for walking away from a steady paycheck