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Dang sawdust...
« on: November 02, 2017, 09:06:42 am »
Maybe we get a lot more wind in the midwest that some other places, but it seems that no matter where I set up my mill I get sawdust blowing right in my face....every time.  I wear a dust mask, but still get a lot of sawdust in my eyes. 

Short of putting in an big expensive blower to suck the dust away, how do most of you control the dust so it isn't a constant irritant?

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Re: Dang sawdust...
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2017, 09:26:54 am »
Just be glad that you are not sawing ERC.  On occasions I have had to stop and walk away from the sawmill until the dust blew away, and then go back for more.   :-\  I do carry a Stihl gas blower to at least occasionally blow away the accumulated dust which may not help but it gives me a breather.

For that reason, a Command Control would be nice.
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Re: Dang sawdust...
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2017, 09:28:39 am »
I see a lot of people complaining about that. My mill shoots the dust out the back.
I'm set up in a valley and maybe 1 out of 20 time do I get any dust blowing back on me.
As you can see in this picture there is very little dust on my working side.

 

 

Now what a difference in the back of the mill.

 

 
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Re: Dang sawdust...
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2017, 09:44:45 am »
I only portable saw and I rarely have a choice on where I set up and never a choice on which way the wind will blow from/to.
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Re: Dang sawdust...
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2017, 09:59:23 am »
Just be glad that you are not sawing ERC.  On occasions I have had to stop and walk away from the sawmill until the dust blew away, and then go back for more.   :-\  I do carry a Stihl gas blower to at least occasionally blow away the accumulated dust which may not help but it gives me a breather.

For that reason, a Command Control would be nice.

Unfortunately that's what I was sawing yesterday.  Had to step away from the mill while cutting and hope I didn't need to stop quick for something.

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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2017, 10:22:16 am »
I'm sorry.  There is nothing more dusty then ERC.   :-\
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Re: Dang sawdust...
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2017, 02:03:54 pm »
I've gotten to where I'll ask the customers to stack their logs so that the hitch of the mill is pointing WEST and the loader points towards the stack!

Most times the prevailing winds work in my favor, but not exactly 100%.
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Re: Dang sawdust...
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2017, 02:21:33 pm »
I had the command control, set up to prevailing winds, forecast winds and the such,, in these hills, there is still swirling, I ended up buying a few pair of those cheap clear goggles with the elastic adjustable bands, It can be a chore at times,,not a bout a doubt it. Sawmilling,  dusty, and either hot or cold, wet or dry ;D
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Re: Dang sawdust...
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2017, 05:47:10 pm »
I have a big fan behind me that keeps it off of me. I also added a piece of 4" plastic drain pipe to my disharge to get the discharged dust closer to the ground when it comes out. It made a huge difference. I have a little Honda generator I run the fan with if there is no power where I am set up.

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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2017, 06:30:26 pm »
I have a big fan behind me that keeps it off of me. I also added a piece of 4" plastic drain pipe to my disharge to get the discharged dust closer to the ground when it comes out. It made a huge difference. I have a little Honda generator I run the fan with if there is no power where I am set up.
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Re: Dang sawdust...
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2017, 08:03:50 pm »
I also use fans.  A big barrell fan behind me in the summer to blow dust away and keep me and the offbearers cool.

However, I also have mounted a 30" fan over and behind my console so that it won't blow on me when it's cold, but will go over my head and put a good breeze on the mill.  No more sawdust in the air surrounding me, in my eyes or nose. 
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2017, 08:56:18 pm »
I have a dust collection system but that doesn't catch it all. There have been times I had to stop and walk away for a minute. My shed is set west to east. And most times the wind comes from the west. But when it swirls there's nothing I can do but stop and let the wind settle.

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Re: Dang sawdust...
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2017, 07:46:23 am »
I have a tethered controller so I walk away upwind. A wireless controller would be even better.
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Re: Dang sawdust...
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2017, 02:19:09 pm »
I forgot to mention we have a 5hp blower for the sawdust which hooks up the mill and blows into a dump truck, but there is a lot of light, fine dust and mold in the air it doesn't catch, and I don't like breathing it.  Having a fan blowing over my back is a great help for nasty species such as walnut and cedar.  Since it blows over my head, and not directly on me but washes over the sawmill, I sometimes forget it's working and then I see a cloud of crud and dust coming my way from the prevailing wind and then reverse direction and go out the end of the barn away from me.

The more I talk to older woodworkers the more I hear them complain about lung and sinus issues caused by sawdust.  Having a fan blowing means I'm not breathing that stuff.  I don't like to wear a mask when I saw, so this seems the best option.   



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Re: Dang sawdust...
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2017, 03:15:24 pm »
Don't know if it's age, but I've had three bad episodes from moldy sawdust in the last year. Twice from the sawmill and once from the shop. I try to use the maskbut sometimes - well...  Fans look like a good solution at the mill.  Hard to believe how much it affected me.  Don't need to repeat that.  Good discussion.
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2017, 04:10:12 pm »
I believe that the affects of dust is cumulative, for me anyway.  My dust exposure goes all of the way back to being a 12 year old riding a combine and tying filled oat, wheat, & rye sacks.  Later years found me in my woodworking shop breathing sanding dust.  Now I am very content wearing an N95 dust mask with an exhalation valve while sawing, bushhogging, grass mowing, and any other activity where I am exposed to dust.

I needed one two weeks ago while Elk hunting because the wind/dust was really bad.
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2017, 04:42:12 pm »
Don't know if it's age, but I've had three bad episodes from moldy sawdust in the last year. Twice from the sawmill and once from the shop. I try to use the maskbut sometimes - well...  Fans look like a good solution at the mill.  Hard to believe how much it affected me.  Don't need to repeat that.  Good discussion.
I liked it so much over the mill, I mounted one in the shop, also.  It washes over my groups of tools.  The one that really gets me is the jointer, seems there is always particles of dust being thrown my way even hooked up to the dust collector, and this certainly helps. 
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2017, 05:25:12 pm »
My shop seems difficult to use fans since the dust producers are all over the place.  Dust collection helps, but as we all know there's still plenty that gets in the air.  The radial arm saw is my biggest offender.  It just doesn't work well with the dust collector.

I know people with the those air scrubbers and they like them, but there's still a lot of dust floating around until the scrubber can make a couple air changes.  I'm going to rethink the fan thing for the shop and maybe try a few small ones at certain locations.  By the time I get my ears, cap, and glasses on, the masks tend to annoy me.   Tried every type of mask there is and the one common denominator is that they all are annoying.  I change glasses, safety glass, no glasses a lot.  Too many things.  I looked at those high end forced-air shields as a possibility.  They run about 400-500 bucks.  I would call that a good value if it really did the job and didn't annoy me.  Not a good value if I leave it in drawer with all my respirators and what not.

I think MM is right about the cumulative effect of dust.  Some of that mold doesn't have to accumulate much more than a couple minutes though. 
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Re: Dang sawdust...
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2017, 06:26:39 pm »
I thought it was only me...seems that sawdust is always in my face, eyes, back and underbritches.  I use the dust bee gone mask when its real bad but that dont help my eyeballs, but it has helped lower my headaches i wud get from breathing in sawdust too much
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Re: Dang sawdust...
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2017, 11:22:47 pm »
I believe that the affects of dust is cumulative, for me anyway. . . .

We have a crew of five guys - two have come down with 'occupational asthma' since we switched to cedar.

Alex is the guy in charge of cleaning up the logs before use in log building. He only wore the nuisance dust masks. Now he's having to use a P100 mask and an asthma puffer to stay on the job.
. . . . I use the dust bee gone mask when its real bad but that dont help my eyeballs, but it has helped lower my headaches i wud get from breathing in sawdust too much

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