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Offline MNBobcat

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Woodland Pro Chain still good?
« on: October 23, 2017, 05:53:22 pm »
Hi All,

Read a number of old posts that were saying the woodland pro chains were better than Oregon.  At the time, people were claiming Oregon went down hill.   But that was years ago and things change.

I'm just wondering if anyone is running the woodland pro and how you like them?

I have a Dolmar 6100 with 20" bar that runs 3/8 .050 chain and I need to order some loops.  Trying to decide what to get.   typically run semi-chisel.  This is my first year on the new saw.

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Re: Woodland Pro Chain still good?
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2017, 07:39:36 pm »
Woodland pro chains semi-chisel is all I run and they seem to hold up good. I buy them when they are on sale. I run 20" bars most of the time but do have a 36" for my big saw. We cut around 20 cords of wood a year all of it is locust and hedge.

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Re: Woodland Pro Chain still good?
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2017, 08:21:13 pm »
I bought a few about a year ago and I didn't like em. they didn't hold an edge good and they were real hard to sharpen. the file wanted to skip on em and not cut (file). they were cheap though. so at least they had that going for em  >:(
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Re: Woodland Pro Chain still good?
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2017, 10:15:41 pm »
I didn't like woodland pro .It was a "house chain" sold by a previous sponsor of this site that sold to another owner which I no longer do business with .It was rather cheap at the time .

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Re: Woodland Pro Chain still good?
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2017, 11:31:00 pm »
If I recall, Woodland Pro chains were made by Tilton (?? might be remembering the name incorrectly). I gave up on those 6 or 8 years ago when a couple of chainshad teeth and depth gauges that just would not sharpen. My guess is they had prblems intheirhea treec I ruined a couple of files trying to sharpen them.

I've not tried any of their chain since. Who knows, maybe they addressed those problems.
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Re: Woodland Pro Chain still good?
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 01:41:13 pm »
It's just rebadged Carlton which is owned by Oregon.
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Re: Woodland Pro Chain still good?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2017, 02:49:31 pm »
It's just rebadged Carlton which is owned by Oregon.

Carlton!  Not sure where I got "Tilton" from (it was actually "Total" I was thinking of). Is the Carlton chain still a distinct design or manufacturing facility from the Oregon-branded stuff?  I remember that Oregon bought them. I'm not sure if my bad experience with Carlton/Woodland Pro might have happened before it was bought out or not.
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Re: Woodland Pro Chain still good?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2017, 03:05:46 pm »
It's just rebadged Carlton which is owned by Oregon.

Carlton!  Not sure where I got "Tilton" from (it was actually "Total" I was thinking of). Is the Carlton chain still a distinct design or manufacturing facility from the Oregon-branded stuff?  I remember that Oregon bought them. I'm not sure if my bad experience with Carlton/Woodland Pro might have happened before it was bought out or not.
John you're on the correct path. Tilton was the major US Jonsered importer .Starting in the early 1970's they had a contract with Carlton to supply chain for the Jonsereds.
Last I heard the Carlton plant is still manufacturing chain under ownership of Oregon Cutting Systems.
Much the same example Oregon manufactured sawchain with Husqvarna's name on it.
Only difference is Carlton still manufactures their chain the same design as they did in the 1970's 80s and 90s, without the modern Anti vibe, LubriLink upgrades.
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Re: Woodland Pro Chain still good?
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2017, 08:01:55 am »
Yup Woodsman Pro  is Carlton, at least any of it I have laid eyes upon.  I have run a good bit of Carlton chain. The 3/8 chisel is very ordinary, not bad but nothing special.  The 325 chisel is good stuff, there will always be a spool of K1L in my shop as long as I can get it it. They also make a full chisel 3/8 low pro chain that carries a yellow label. Comparable to 63PS but 1/2 the cost. I have yet to try any of it and haven't seen anyone write about an experience with it.
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Re: Woodland Pro Chain still good?
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2017, 09:43:34 am »
Today the big two sawchain companies Stihl and Oregon, have made their chain cut aggressively right out of the box .
Carlton/Woodland Pro are still ground with angles we had 30 years ago. Even back then Stihl and Oregon chain were the same and had to be filed from new to make them a productive cutting chain.

To be honest the Carlton will cut with the big two, they just need a little elbow grease. :)
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Re: Woodland Pro Chain still good?
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2017, 10:00:04 am »
I'm not a big fan of how the Oregon Chains are right out of the box these days.

They have way too much hook on the tooth: the profile looks nothing like what their own literature says it should when sharpening. They do self-feed into the wood nicely, but makes the chain rather grabby (especially when bore cutting), and that fine hook point wears quickly. The last few I've put on also had the depth gauges set high (possibly an attempt to counteract the aggressive hook on the chain?)  When I put the measuring too on them, they stick way up above the level they should be.
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2017, 01:27:33 pm »
I ordered 3 loops of the Oregon 72DPX072G    3/8" and .050 for a 20 inch bar.

I mostly cut frozen 8 foot logs.  I buy 20+ cords of 8 foot logs in oak every year.  One really cold winter I burned 30 cord.  I pick up a load on the forks on my skidsteer, carry it over in front of my wood boiler building and then cut them right there.  Then they go into the boiler.  I don't split unless its really large diameter.

I don't think full-chisel is an option because the wood is always frozen.  The few loops of full chisel I had, had to be sharpened more frequently than the semi-chisel.

I am interested in experimenting with other chains and brands of chains though.  The oregon seems to work okay but it would be nice to find something that would stay sharp longer or at least cut faster.

Anxious to try my new Dolmar/Makita 6100 but wanted better chain then it came with. :)

Thanks for all the replies!  Hope the discussion continues as its really interesting to hear what chain people like.

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Re: Woodland Pro Chain still good?
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2017, 06:12:39 pm »
30 cords like in 4 by 4 by 8? My goodness is it that cold or are you heating a huge amount of space like a barn? Frozen as in like ice would indicate to me the stuff was pretty green .
The only time in my life I ever encountered actual frozen wood it was about 20 below on green cut late fall pin  oak .Then nothing would cut it including a McCulloch SP 125 .BTW it hasn't gotten  that cold in the last 20 years of which I'm very happy about .

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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2017, 06:16:51 pm »
Our house is 7,000 square feet.  The wood boiler also heats our garage and the hot water for the house.  The year we went through 30 cords was the year we had the polar vortex where it was negative 20s for a lot of days.

As for the frozen wood, that was an assumption I made because we're near zero or below a lot during the winter.  I don't season wood...haven't had the time so yes what I burn is usually pretty green.

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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2017, 07:37:00 pm »
Don't want to get to far off topic,but I believe you on the GREEN 30 cord. I played around with green hardwood and softwood. Cut it down and burn it that same day. That OWB chewed through some wood. Have to dry out the wood to get the BTUs from it. Only way to dry it out,is to burn it. Man did that thing smoke.  :o  Experiment is long over with.  ;D  I burned less wood when I was burning dead standing pine. Lots of dead fir goes through my OWB too. Cedar too.
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Re: Woodland Pro Chain still good?
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2017, 08:19:35 pm »
On that hard chain somebody mentioned the choice of file makes a big difference . Save Edge or Pferd works a darn sight better than Oregon files .
On the Woodland Pro I never found hard cutters it just would not cut like Oregon or Stihl .Never did figure out why .
To tell the truth I just think that company just got a hold of some defective chain and deeply discounted it just to be rid of it .

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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2017, 10:13:06 pm »
As for the frozen wood, that was an assumption I made because we're near zero or below a lot during the winter.  I don't season wood...haven't had the time so yes what I burn is usually pretty green.

Well, once you get caught up, you'll have a lot more time because 10 cords seasoned wood = 30 cords green. No wonder you're short on time!

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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2017, 11:07:06 pm »
LOL!  Well, you can't burn all seasoned wood in a boiler though.  At least not if you want 12 hours between loads.  The best is if you can burn a mix of green and seasoned.  :)

 
As for the frozen wood, that was an assumption I made because we're near zero or below a lot during the winter.  I don't season wood...haven't had the time so yes what I burn is usually pretty green.

Well, once you get caught up, you'll have a lot more time because 10 cords seasoned wood = 30 cords green. No wonder you're short on time!

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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2017, 12:11:29 am »
As for the frozen wood, that was an assumption I made because we're near zero or below a lot during the winter.  I don't season wood...haven't had the time so yes what I burn is usually pretty green.

You can lose about 40% of the BTUs in wood by burning it green vs properly seasoned. You lose some to heating up the water, and take another big hit vaporizing the water. You also lose BTUs because the gas vapors will not ignite if the combustion chamber is not hot enough (the gases either just go out your stack, or condense in the walls of your flue causing creosote build-up)
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