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taking the weight out of walnut
« on: September 14, 2017, 08:13:30 pm »
Lots of beautiful tables here on FF , and here is may take on another one. End grain English Walnut 54X120. The start with basic orchard logs.

 
   These are all short, metal filled little beauties that turned into cookies.
 

 
  Once the design is set the basic table shape starts taking form from the cookies.
 

  

  

  The last pic shows the dado groove that will hold inset steel later.
 

  After rabbeting ,glue is spread to inset plywood.
 

  

 
 Once the bottom is set in we tip the whole mess upright and begin cleanup. Tomorrow -the start of the core.  Cheers  Rob
 
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2017, 09:42:10 pm »
Eagerly awaiting the progress on this one... I'm sure it will not disappoint.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2017, 12:05:36 am »
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2017, 02:17:52 pm »
 I can't wait to see this one finished. popcorn_smiley popcorn_smiley popcorn_smiley
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2017, 07:30:17 pm »
The lighter weight core forming up today

  

  

 
 Monday we will cut the veneers from cookie scraps .  Rob
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2017, 08:29:29 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2017, 10:08:50 am »
Rob, I love your posts!  Thanks for taking the time to share your unique projects and processes.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2017, 06:04:24 pm »
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2017, 08:36:57 am »
Lots of imagination and hard work goes into what you build. I love to watch the progress on the tables you show us

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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2017, 07:05:15 pm »
Wow.  To describe your vison and talent for one off pieces as creative and artistic is an understatement.  That Dado detail is going to be special!     We wait again.   Good stuff!

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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2017, 07:34:42 pm »
Hope you are safe and not in the path of any of the wildfires out there.
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2017, 09:15:09 am »
Thanks,
  We are well south of the big fires but there are suspicious small fires breaking out all around us this week. Smoke is in the air as far as one can see.What is of curious interest is the 4 earthquakes here at 2 hour intervals yesterday. All quakes were centered a few hundred yards away and it was a little weird. I had one timber lift topple and a massive crack widen in the shop floor.......
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2017, 12:52:02 pm »
I really enjoy your projects.
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2017, 03:54:47 pm »
Wow.  Mother nature really lets us know we are just a small part of the equation.  Fire and earthquakes will remind us we are not in charge of much no matter how settled we think we are.  Stay safe and hoping for the best out that way.

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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2017, 05:24:51 pm »
Thank you Rob for the update.  I had been concerned.
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2017, 05:57:24 pm »
Thanks again,
       From our perch here in the ridge we can see a great distance and are always wary of fire ! Just a couple of shots of the table bottom with the steel band installed. The last pic is the shop floor crack which is about 20 feet long. 

  

  

  

 
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2017, 06:29:27 pm »
Fantastic! Thanks for sharing this work!

How thick is that steel band? How are the ends connected?
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2017, 06:44:38 pm »
1/8 inch thick and flush end butt.
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2017, 09:26:16 am »
Sorry your floor was damaged.  Your work is interesting and very attractive.

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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2017, 06:07:53 pm »
Mating the center section of the table to the main body- lots of clamps !
   

  

 
  A white oak table receiving it's leg set that will ship next week.
   

 
  Still plowing away on my wife's cabinets !  Cheers  Rob
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2017, 06:07:54 pm »
Router work today...

 
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Nice routor plane.
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2017, 05:30:54 pm »
You need to find a mudjacker to raise your floor back up to level.

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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2017, 08:40:24 pm »
Had a floor like that mudjacked. Worked well. Money well spent. (Not that much money.)
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2017, 08:57:12 pm »
I had to look up the term ,,,actually we are doing the exact opposite.
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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2017, 12:36:00 pm »
I had to look up the term ,,,actually we are doing the exact opposite.

You're replacing it?
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« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2017, 03:38:05 pm »
You've lost me !
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« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2017, 05:15:48 pm »
My apologizes,  I didn't realize the mudjacking comments were about the expanding floor. My focus has been on cranking out the wood.
   On the floor ,,,,,neither replace or repair. In the last 30 days there have been 80+ quakes a couple of hundred yards from the edge of my front yard. A big Ka-boom 5 minutes ago ,,,3 additional today so far. I refer to this as "ranch growing". Seriously, it is really creepy laying in bed wondering if the massive beams in my house will terminate my family's life before the next hour is up. It is out of my hands... Rob

 
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2017, 02:44:31 am »
Awesome table!  I always enjoy your posts, you do some amazing stuff.

What fault line are you on?  Up here in AK we get shakes regularly too.  Can be un-nerving at times.
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« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2017, 08:54:06 am »
Hi WLC, I don't know the name of the fault line- but it sure is active. We had a pretty jolt an hour ago. Funny you mentioned AK as the wife and I are looking for something in SE.I havn't been as far north as where you live but did do some commercial fishing in SE years ago. I met my wife in a marina and the ocean is calling us back !
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« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2017, 01:33:41 pm »
A pic of the sanded top ready to start coating. We will look things over very carefully before first coat for any flaws.

 
    A few pics of the next jobs starting tomorrow , canyon live oak table , white oak counter tops and a walnut island....Rob
 

  

  

 
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« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2017, 08:23:04 am »
I really appreciate you posting these pictures.  Can't wait to see the table with the finish applied.
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2017, 08:52:56 pm »
Headed to Utah tomorrow morning. White oak table and bench.

  

  

 
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« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2017, 05:53:42 pm »
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2017, 06:46:02 pm »
That's really nice.  What's the sizes of the table?
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« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2017, 06:53:03 pm »
The White Oak table is 44 X 100 or so. The new owners were very happy when they picked it up this morning. Some pics   of the house siding we supplied for their home in Utah.  Rob

  

 
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« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2017, 08:34:32 am »
Interesting house.

Is there a stretcher on the bench?  How are the legs fastened?

Really nice.
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« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2017, 09:00:28 am »
We have done quite a bit of work on trim pieces and furniture for the customers retirement house in Utah.They are part of the mass exodus from California.
  The bench has a piece of curved natural edge for a stretcher and the structure  uses  blind dowels . The legs on the bench are select pieces of slab that are slightly triangular shaped.To make the legs on the table match, I cut a pie shaped wedge out of the center of two "straight" slabs and glued them back together more narrow at the top-wider at the bottom.Pics of another table with "modified " leg slabs. I think it makes natural edge furniture look less clunky. Rob

  

  

 
  I put the mismatched grain to the inside of the legs hopefully !
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« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2017, 09:19:54 am »
Good solutions.  You've got a good eye.  Making the legs that way helps the appearance as well as stability.  Nice grain on that.  Glad you showed us a closeup.  Feel free to post as many pictures as you like! :)

That little wedge on the stretcher is interesting.  Is that temporary or permanent?  Normally I'd expect a tusk tenon there, but that has better visual appeal.  What is actually holding the stretcher?   
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« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2017, 10:33:15 am »
The strength is in a glued joint with the little branch as decoration.

 
  A more traditional connection....
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« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2017, 02:49:34 pm »
Sunday afternoon - in pursuit of perfection.  Rob

 
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2017, 05:40:11 pm »
Fantastic! Thanks for sharing this work!

How thick is that steel band? How are the ends connected?
  A pic of the zero clearance, flush butt joint on the 2 in wide steel band.

    
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« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2017, 11:02:25 pm »
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What he said ^^^^!!!  WOW, WOW, WOW!!!!!!

What is the painters tape for?  marking imperfections?  What are you doing to the finish in the pic??  I wish I had your skills.  My wife doesn't need to be shown any more of your work that's for sure.  She was amazed too.
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2017, 08:48:52 am »
The tape on the sides is to prevent any epoxy from filling the the little groove between the steel and the dado in the wood. The little strips of tape mark any sort of imperfection in the super clear/glossy epoxy which acts like a magnifying glass. Today we sand back almost all of the epoxy , rout the edge and get ready for final coating. In the picture I am using tweezers and a wire to burst any micro bubbles that got by inspection in the first two coats. It is hard to see in the pic , but I also drill tiny holes to get at things I don't like.  Rob

 
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2017, 12:50:20 pm »
Rob,

Love the project but am curious as to the two statements: 

going to sand almost all the epoxy off....and you are removing all the micro bubbles,etc. 

You don't sand it off then remove anything that is a flaw?  Just seems odd process wise but I'm a forester at best and a poor woodworker. 

Wish I could send you some of our walnut off crooks, corners, elbows and such.  Maybe I'll make up a tractor trailer load and send it out to you. 

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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2017, 01:42:38 pm »
Stunning!  Wow.

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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2017, 03:51:26 pm »
Rob,

Love the project but am curious as to the two statements: 

going to sand almost all the epoxy off....and you are removing all the micro bubbles,etc. 

You don't sand it off then remove anything that is a flaw?  Just seems odd process wise but I'm a forester at best and a poor woodworker. 

Wish I could send you some of our walnut off crooks, corners, elbows and such.  Maybe I'll make up a tractor trailer load and send it out to you.
   This beautiful crystal clear, almost perfect coat of epoxy is actually the primer for the final coat. We build it up fairly thick and should have caught the bubbles in the first 2 coats. There's actually a fair amount of technique to getting end grain wood sealed up and bubble free. We will sand aggressively and pull away probably 90% of the finish thickness and then final coat with another material.
On your walnut crooks and off cuts, I bet they would make fun artistic material to work with!
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #52 on: October 31, 2017, 01:37:15 pm »
I had to do some catching up with your project.  While I was paying and playing, looks like you were doing quiet the opposite. 

Great innovation and Beautiful work. 
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« Reply #53 on: November 01, 2017, 08:02:10 pm »
How is the steel band attached??
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #54 on: November 02, 2017, 08:53:52 am »
After building a jig to get the bends accurate I welded 3/8's nuts every 18 inches to the inside of the steel band. The nuts are seated into blind pockets drilled into the solid sides. Tony , my shop foreman hand lapped the the butt joints with a file to get the joint perfect. After dry fit we pressed it all together with epoxy putty.The pic below is from another project (same customer) showing welded screws on the inside of the band. I switched to welded nuts on this build and assembly was a lot easier. Rob

 
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #55 on: November 02, 2017, 11:13:41 am »
Hey, I also like that makeshift backpack for the LP bottle.   ;D
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« Reply #56 on: November 02, 2017, 12:10:53 pm »
I used to own an organic farm and the propane setup is one of the legal weed abatement options allowed. :)
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« Reply #57 on: November 02, 2017, 04:11:01 pm »
Thanks for the explanation!  I really like your projects and admire your skills. 
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« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2017, 04:52:59 pm »
The last major sanding before coating.Visibly no flaws....

 
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Oh My, what a monster!  I never realized how large it is.   :o
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« Reply #60 on: November 06, 2017, 05:38:57 pm »
 Final top coating, number two of three. Getting closer.... :)

 
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Re: taking the weight out of walnut
« Reply #61 on: November 15, 2017, 07:05:19 pm »
After three top coats and a day of fine buffing , we are ready to ship.Very hard to get a decent photo due to glare so below are some pics of the next two bartops in line and some natural edge trim going to another job.The bartops are White oak and the trim is Ponderosa pine. We use the lifts to hold while spraying, move to a drying area, then scoop up another set for finishing. Cheers  Rob

  

 
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