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Offline Quebecnewf

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Old single sided planer rebuild
« on: August 21, 2017, 05:25:44 am »

Found this old planer setting outdoors on a hill and decided to rescue it and get it running again if possible



I now have a pile of parts on my workshop floor.



Got the cutter head bolts out yesterday . They look ok I think.



Still a bit more to remove and things to unstick and then start to clean and paint.

Interesting project and I am learning a lot as I go

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2017, 05:28:16 am »
Great... I'll be watching... Nice to see someone else doing the rust thing.
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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2017, 05:53:28 am »
Yes I saw you are into the rust as well. I think you are far ahead of me in this dept. This is my first real rebuild. Sad to say I do not weld so I have to be real careful not to break anything. This unit has come apart very good so far. I have been using a mix of ATFand acetone mixed 50/50 . Seems to be doing the trick. Glad I got all those cutter head bolts out without breaking any. I do have some stuck shafts that are a concern. Still have not went at them with full force yet. Just heating and squirting so far. Giving them time and notice that they are going to come loose one way or the other.

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2017, 06:15:11 am »
I don't use a lot of force. If something does not move like a bolt
I just bump it back and forth many many times. You can't see it
but it is probably moving maybe only a 1000's of an inch. That will
grow. Next thing you know it's moving 2000's of and inch. I have
spent an hour tapping a wrench one way then the other without
seeing it move. Keep at it and you will win.
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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2017, 07:32:28 am »
Cast iron parts can be soaked in muriatic acid to completely remove rust and make them look new, flush well. Planers are a finicky machine requiring much adjustment and maintenance. After your complete teardown it will hide no secrets from you and you will not hesitate to make needed adjustments. Frank C.
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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2017, 08:21:46 am »
Great project.  I have a similar but different 24" Porter planer that I haven't started on yet.  Who's the maker of yours?  What will you power it with? 

You probably know, lots of ways to remove rust, including plain old cleaning vinegar, citric acid, the commercial rust remover chemicals and electrolysis. 
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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2017, 09:14:16 am »
Those curved spokes suggest it is very old. Any info?

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2017, 09:18:23 am »
When you get it finished and want to keep it looking good
and you want a slippery top get a can of (SlipIt Sliding Compound).
It also protects it from rusting again. This stuff is great for table saws.

 

 
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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2017, 09:31:32 am »
Those curved spokes suggest it is very old. Any info?



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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2017, 05:41:47 pm »
Here's what I know. The planer is badged Bournival . This was a guy ( Doctor) in Montreal who had a business selling woodworking machines . Machine was made by Continental Machine Works in Montreal. Their production line was bought out by Jos Poitras ( my three sided planer was made by Jos Poitras. They in turn were bought out by General tools of Drummondville . Small, world. No idea of the age maybe 1940 ,s . Not sure about that.

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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2017, 06:29:55 pm »
I was one told the all curved spokes are made in England or out of USA.
All straight spokes are made in USA.
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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2017, 10:30:10 pm »

Sign up over at OWWM.org  (old wood working machines) and post a picture.  Those guys know everything about vintage machinery.

Here's what I know. The planer is badged Bournival . This was a guy ( Doctor) in Montreal who had a business selling woodworking machines . Machine was made by Continental Machine Works in Montreal. Their production line was bought out by Jos Poitras ( my three sided planer was made by Jos Poitras. They in turn were bought out by General tools of Drummondville . Small, world. No idea of the age maybe 1940 ,s . Not sure about that.

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2017, 10:45:53 pm »
That's were most of this info came from . Been posting over there as . Lots of good info to be had

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2017, 11:25:25 pm »
Hey!
It's good to see that "high wind casualty" being put right-side up again!
Will you install ground anchors and cables as hold downs this time?

Also, looks like a great planer find.
Looking forward to seeing more photos of the clean up and restoration project.
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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2017, 02:49:36 am »
I was one told the all curved spokes are made in England or out of USA.
All straight spokes are made in USA.

Curved castings were made to relieve stresses regardless of country of origin. See, e.g., the old curved wrenches that became the focus of a collector fad a few years ago.
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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2017, 05:29:49 am »


The upright went well. Got it pulled back near its original location . Will shore it up in the coming days and make some repairs . Inside will be gutted and redone , water damage .

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2017, 05:55:31 am »


Just need to be jacked, levelled and shored

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2017, 06:11:12 am »


Got the rest of the planer took apart yesterday . Time to start cleaning and painting . Then hope that I took enough pictures to put it back together again

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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2017, 07:06:01 am »
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Just need to be jacked, levelled and shored

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2017, 08:57:59 am »
Your planer looks like a great project.  Keep us in the loop, and good luck on the refurb.  Regards, Clark