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Restoring an old Belsaw edger from the swamps of Florida.
« on: August 18, 2017, 04:17:06 AM »
Model 8011.

I had this old saw given to me by member bucknwfl from Florida and delivered to Pa.
by member Josef from Pa. Both very generous persons. Thanks for helping me out.

This is what it looked like hiding under logs for who knows how long.

 

 

 

 

This is from yesterday after I drove around 3 hours to pick it up.

 

 

Unloading...

 

 

This is after I spent around 2 hours getting all parts to move (even the set screws).

 

 


This is where it all started.

http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,96892.0.html

I hope to be posting picture each day until it's done.
I picked up a 14hp kohler engine a few days ago that I hope to
use for the power plant.

Thanks again to bucknwfl  and  Josef.

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Re: Restoring an old Belsaw edger from the swamps of Florida.
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2017, 07:32:16 AM »
Is it running yet? Where's the sawdust?  ;D
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Re: Restoring an old Belsaw edger from the swamps of Florida.
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2017, 08:01:16 AM »
Great questions. I am in for the ride.
I knew what I thought I meant.

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Re: Restoring an old Belsaw edger from the swamps of Florida.
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2017, 09:56:36 AM »
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Re: Restoring an old Belsaw edger from the swamps of Florida.
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2017, 10:00:15 AM »
Hey... I'm working on it...

 

 
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Re: Restoring an old Belsaw edger from the swamps of Florida.
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2017, 10:06:41 AM »
This is too cool, what a collaboration, and I bet KB will be edging in no time at all.

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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2017, 12:58:34 PM »
I got it up where I can work on it.  Time for a break.  I'm off to the legion.
There is a beer over there with my name on it. I think that long drive yesterday
got the best of me. I'm tired.

 

 

 

 
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2017, 01:00:49 PM »
Do you think 14 HP will be enough to run it ?

 

 
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2017, 03:29:53 PM »
Kbeitz--you're a force of nature, and you even have time for a beer?!? 8) 8).  No idea on the Kohler, but have you considered one of your electric motors?  All the best, Rob.
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Re: Restoring an old Belsaw edger from the swamps of Florida.
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2017, 04:33:07 PM »
That should probably work, i have an 18 hp wisconsin and it won't bog down on 2" material at all. Some of the smaller edger out there run a 13hp honda
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2017, 06:12:00 PM »
I had to play wack-ah-mole for about one hour to get the pulleys round again.
This one part was bend so bad that I snapped it off trying to get it back in shape.
It's all welded and fixed ready to go back on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2017, 06:13:30 PM »
Kbeitz--you're a force of nature, and you even have time for a beer?!? 8) 8).  No idea on the Kohler, but have you considered one of your electric motors?  All the best, Rob.

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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2017, 07:21:52 PM »
Is that an idler pulley for tensioning the flat belt?
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2017, 07:22:56 PM »
Is that an idler pulley for tensioning the flat belt?

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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2017, 07:27:03 PM »
I got a stupid question...

What is the infeed side ? I would think it would work like a table saw and the blades would pull the
board down on the table but there is no table and the what I thought was the feed roller is on
the back if I feed it that way. So what is the front or infeed side ?
Does it up saw or down saw ?
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Re: Restoring an old Belsaw edger from the swamps of Florida.
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2017, 08:03:49 PM »
Here are some pictures that will help
http://209.164.108.37/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=4807

You have it in the right orientation it feeds from the right when looking from the v grove belt pully side.

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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2017, 08:52:20 PM »
It saws down. I restored 2 old edgers and this is what I learned: To saw anywhere near straight you should have 4 feed rolls; 2 infeed and 2 outfeed.   Make them from cheap pillow block bearings , shafts 1 3/8 or larger and sprockets an inch or so apart. No. 2 and 3 should be close to the saws and absolutely parallel with the  mandrell.  Please don't be insulted but bellsaw edgers did not saw straight when new. I believe the extra aggressive feed rolls will make it go. Also gravity press rolls come down between the feed rolls. Doug

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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2017, 09:33:43 PM »
Here are some pictures that will help
http://209.164.108.37/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=4807

You have it in the right orientation it feeds from the right when looking from the v grove belt pully side.

After looking at your pictures I got another question.
Does a leather belt ride on the pulleys or it looks in your pictures that the
Bigger pulleys rub on your smaller rubber pulleys ?
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2017, 09:53:46 PM »
Sorry  KB I do not know. The pictures are not mine I found them while doing a search to try helping with your previous question on the infeed. moodnacreek may be able to help with this one.

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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2017, 08:20:20 AM »
If you contact Timberking you can get a copy of the manual for it. Also, there should be a very heavy hold down roller that is part of the top cover.

 


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