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Not native to south central Oregon
« on: July 13, 2017, 06:49:40 pm »
Not native here or anywhere else I've ever lived. I'm sure some of you all will know what it is.

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Re: Not native to south central Oregon
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2017, 08:13:18 pm »
Looks like Sugar Pine to me...
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Re: Not native to south central Oregon
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2017, 09:15:46 pm »
These cones are a little under 2" in diameter and only about 7" or 8" long. Needles 1". So not sugar pine.
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Re: Not native to south central Oregon
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2017, 01:04:38 am »
OK, then Grand Fir?
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Re: Not native to south central Oregon
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2017, 01:26:14 am »
first the tree in the photo is a fir, not a pine.
Pines have their needles in clusters.

if it was a pine then you could try this site
http://www.icogitate.com/~tree/pine.name.ac25.htm

http://oregonstate.edu/trees/conifer_genera/spp/true_fir_spp.html
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Re: Not native to south central Oregon
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2017, 01:47:08 am »
The site eliminates the Grand Fir as the cones are hanging down and larger - so it must be a Pacific Fir - you are a long way from their zone!  I only guessed Sugar Pine because the cones looked that big (I just picked some up the other day) and they are WAY out of your area!
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Re: Not native to south central Oregon
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2017, 03:47:19 am »
I'm going to guess Norway Spruce.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picea_abies

Certainly out of it's native range, but it's a common ornamental or Christmas tree in many places, including the PNW area.

The needle layout and larger cones seem right.
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Re: Not native to south central Oregon
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2017, 07:39:58 am »
My guess, too.
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Re: Not native to south central Oregon
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2017, 09:44:49 am »
I should have also taken a picture of the bark. It looked very much like the bark of the Sitka spruce that grows on the coast.

Edit:
So doing a little research, I'm thinking Norway spruce is spot on. And when you feel the needles you notice that it is a "kinder, gentler" spruce than the Sitka.
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Re: Not native to south central Oregon
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2017, 09:53:31 pm »
Yes, to Norway spruce.
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