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Brilliant idea or dumb?
« on: March 20, 2017, 10:40:52 pm »
    I have a TK 1600 with the standard ruler type scale. At 71 my peepers aren't as sharp as they used to be and I have trouble at times seeing the scale clearly. A little wind makes my eyes water and many times I have to bring the saw back further than needed to set for the next cut. Digital readouts have been discussed on here, but my general impression is that they don't work out too well.  With the proliferation of cameras in our lives, I got to wondering if you could mount a camera pointed right at the scale with  a screen at the control station.  The add on back up vehicle cameras seem like they would fit the bill. 12v and the camera would be weatherproof and it seems like many are wireless so would simplify the installation. A quick search  shows they aren't too expensive. Problems? dust, could they focus that close, how readable are the displays are the displays more readable than the DRO's. Have done very little research on this but thought I would get  some feedback first. Over the years I have found that many of my "stroke of genius" ideas turn out to be  rather dumb. thanks
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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2017, 11:52:08 pm »
I like the idea!  The back-of-car cameras use a fish-eye lens so things look pretty small.  You would have to mount it pretty close to your pointer (shouldn't be a problem).  They focus pretty well but you might have to add a light if the camera casts a shadow on the scale.  How big of a screen are you thinking?
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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2017, 12:03:10 am »
How about mounting a magnifying glass near the pointer? Maybe that could help.
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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2017, 01:12:56 am »
The camera and screen combo is what a few folks in my office use that are seeing-impaired.  If your mill is out of the weather and won't have sunshine causing glare on the screen, it sounds like a stroke of genius,   :)

The stuff made for vision impaired folks looks to be heinously expensive.  Something like a video doorbell monitor is priced right, but may not have good optics for seeing your scale.  Maybe an inspection camera would work?  Would be useful even if it doesn't solve the sawmill scale problem.

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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2017, 01:52:16 am »
Shop Fox part of Grizzly's sub subdivisions sells a table saw fence that
has a little thing called a MAGNIFIED CURSOR. Part number X2005012A .
It fits over the tape measure or ruler to magnify the little marks so you
can see them. I think this would help you a lot. I have one on my table saw.

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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2017, 06:56:50 am »
Doug, remember when we were kids and the small screen TV's had that big magnifier that stuck on the screen. Really you just need a little magnification right where the pointer is as, suggested just use a magnifying glass. No need to over engineer a simple problem. Frank C.
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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2017, 10:14:38 pm »
    Thanks for the ideas, I did try to mount a magnifying  glass on it, but couldn't get it to focus and align right, then broke it and never got back to that idea. will look into the magnified curser idea.   The back up cameras I looked at had either a 4" or 7" screen.
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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2017, 11:13:14 pm »
I use bi-focal safety glasses from WoodCraft. Eye protection and close up vision all in one. Fairly cheap too, $8. The salesman told me that "chicks dig them..." so I bought two pair... he lied.  ::)
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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2017, 11:14:36 pm »
I vote for back up camera. It is a stroke of genius LOL. I read somewhere that a guy had come up with a large dial scale for the norwoods. Anyone have a setup like that?
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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2017, 07:52:09 am »
There are swing arm type bench lamps with built in magnifiers, maybe one of these?
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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2017, 03:36:50 pm »
    Thanks for the ideas, I did try to mount a magnifying  glass on it, but couldn't get it to focus and align right, then broke it and never got back to that idea. will look into the magnified curser idea.   The back up cameras I looked at had either a 4" or 7" screen.

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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2017, 05:51:30 pm »
Doug, I don't know how large the numbers are on your scale. We're the same age and I use an aluminum yardstick that I can see without my reading glasses. Frank C.
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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2017, 06:03:14 pm »
I was at Midwest Wheel yesterday and they had a fairly inexpensive magnetic mount wireless backup camera.  Thought about it for hooking up trailers without a spotter.

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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2017, 06:20:36 pm »
Kbeitz, THANK YOU for that link.  You just made my life easier.  I wear reading glasses only for up close stuff and that magnifier will let me not have to look like a school marm with my glasses down on the end of my nose just to read the rule on the mill while not needing glasses for the rest of the process.
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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2017, 06:23:30 pm »
That is a great idea. How about a go pro and you can watch it right on your phone with the app. They can take a beating and use a rechargeable battery so no wires are required to try it. Plus the older models are reasonably priced now. :)
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Re: Brilliant idea or dumb?
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2017, 10:21:49 pm »
     Was sawing 16' stuff today and having to bring the head all the way back so the scale is right in front of me , I have no problem reading it then. It's with 8' stuff that has to be centered on the mill to use to log dog and turner that give me the problem.  Then the head is 6' to 8' away and hard to see clearly that far. If one could find a tv magnifier like bandmiller suggests would probably do the trick, but then dust might be a problem. Probably will just keep bringing the head  back where I can see it for now. Thanks for the suggestions and comments.
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