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Offline Earl Beverly

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TimberKing B-20 List/lenghts of hydraulic hoses.
« on: March 20, 2017, 02:24:31 pm »
Hi,
Does anyone have a complete count with lengths of hydraulic hoses for a TK B-20 sawmill. My saw has seen just enough weather to rot the hoses and rather than replacing as they fail, I would like to replace all at once (all of the 3/8" Hoses). Also, thinking to upgrade from the one wire hose to two wire.
I have several other pieces of equipment with hydraulics, 3 tractors, track loader, dozer, articulating loader, so, I am considering buying a hose crimper, although the "surpluscenter" prices look cheaper than the cost of hose and fittings.
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Earl Beverly

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Re: TimberKing B-20 List/lenghts of hydraulic hoses.
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2017, 03:56:03 pm »
Earl,have you looked at crimpers yet??
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Re: TimberKing B-20 List/lenghts of hydraulic hoses.
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2017, 05:19:22 pm »
You might want to look on E-bay at the non-crimp hose fittings.

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Re: TimberKing B-20 List/lenghts of hydraulic hoses.
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2017, 11:46:01 pm »
Earl,

Call Mike or Jason at TK, they should be able to tell you the hose lengths.  Unless you have moved your forward loading arm to the forward position, you can use shorter hoses for that one.
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Re: TimberKing B-20 List/lenghts of hydraulic hoses.
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2017, 02:09:34 am »
I highly recommend using industrial hoses or of same kind TK originally used.
There not cheap and the fittings is what adds up.  The B - 20 system is not a extreme system but if you have a 3-4 K log on loaders or log chain turner and you have one come apart with 3500 psi it's very dangerous. Proper hose cutting and proper fittings crimped the right way is money well spent. The machine that dose it is several thousands. 
Iam guessing but to re plumb a B-20 would be in the neighborhood of  $1500- $1800
 I think I spent  $350 for the 3' hoses with connections to move everything forward a couple feet when I added the 10' extension.
Just my 2 cents. Keep safety in mind
 Also most companies that make up hoses won't add a new fitting to a used hose.
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Re: TimberKing B-20 List/lenghts of hydraulic hoses.
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2017, 02:32:51 am »
Wow... Up here in Pa we can get the Amish to make up hoses for
around $20.00 per hose.
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Re: TimberKing B-20 List/lenghts of hydraulic hoses.
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2017, 09:55:44 am »
Yes I might have inflated  the cost a bit. But I did check what I actually paid for a  10K psi 3/8 two wire hose is around 2.60 LF
So a 10 ft hose with basic straight fittings made up here is around 60-75 bucks.

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Re: TimberKing B-20 List/lenghts of hydraulic hoses.
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2017, 11:38:25 am »
Hi Guys,
Thanks for all of the responses.

Tom T Sawyer: The straight up answer is to call Mike or Jason at TK. I did this last week and Jason quoted $1450 for the full B-20 package of hoses. I feel a bit guilty asking all of the lengths, so I can go to another vendor to beat their price.

RedBeard: I really don't like to discuss my sex life on timber forums, but a few weeks ago I had two 1", 10' hoses made at my local Auto Parts store to route from my Kubota SVL-90 track loader to the Ground Shark cutter. At $486.00 I considered to this be sex of some kind - and I did not enjoy it...

Kbeitz: I saw a picture of some Amish people one time. That seems to be as close as they come to East Texas. I checked in to the "screw on" fittings - the only objection here is the cost. Also, they are physically larger than the crimped fittings. This is probably not a problem in most cases. Have not given up on this because, like having my own crimper, it lets me make the hoses and fit them one at a time.

RedBeard: I have a twenty foot extension on my saw and along with changing the hoses, I would like to add hydraulic stops on the extension, add a third, or widen, the existing log loader arms and toeboards. So, when making/ordering new hoses, I will add the extra lengths of hose as needed. This is why my first thought was to buy a used hose crimper, and I have been shopping eBay and CraigsList, but again, this also looks like sex of some kind, not to mention that each crimper requires specific dies, rings, and use of specific fittings and hoses.

The TK stock hoses are one wire and with JIC type female flare ends. It would not cost much to upgrade to two wire hose and I plan to shield all of the hose that runs in the channels, then sleeve all hoses that are exposed. I think that upgrading from the TK 3500# hoses to 4800# as well as keeping the sun off the hoses should end my hose problems.

I have banged a log into a fitting that ruined a hose and pinched one of the log loader hoses.This kind of stuff will happen now and then, but should be less as I spend more time on the saw.

Anyone know of a hydraulic crimper at a reasonable price, please let me know.

Thanks,
Earl Beverly

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Re: TimberKing B-20 List/lenghts of hydraulic hoses.
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2017, 12:41:23 pm »
One of these days,i am getting my own crimper too.
This is what i am looking at.

http://www.gates.com/products/industrial/industrial-hydraulics/crimpers-and-equipment/mobilecrimp-420
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