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Author Topic: Grinding/hand filing thread...let's see upclose pics of your chains guys!!!!  (Read 7319 times)

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Free hand filing.
The best I can do picture wise. Need to touch up the chain again, I know! And I am not using chisel chain, wood is too filled with sand for it to work - I live close to the coast, with lots of flying sand and dust.

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Hey very nice, don't it feel good to get your money's worth LOL!!!

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A chainsaw grinder is a machine and a machine will beat a man every time. However, I never use  anything but a file for two reasons; for one dry grinding hardens the tooth edge so it files hard and 2 I can't carry a grinder in my file pocket. I spend a lot of time making saw logs out of tree service stuff and have to file constantly. It depends on the kind of cutting you do.







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Hard to get good close-ups with the smartphone but these turned out ok. This is just sharpened freehand with the saw bar leaned up on a tree. It's tricky keeping the angle of the cutter strait when doing this. And I'll admit when sharpening this way, I do sometimes get the cutters just slightly different from left to right but not enough to make a difference in the cut, although it does annoy the slight ocd I have  :D

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  Hey man thanks for posting, looks good....I bet those chains cut fast!!!!
 
Do you cut more hard or soft wood????

 No problem, yea as long as you keep the drags/depth gauges in spec they cut plenty fast.  I cut mostly hard wood.
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Free hand filing.
The best I can do picture wise. Need to touch up the chain again, I know! And I am not using chisel chain, wood is too filled with sand for it to work - I live close to the coast, with lots of flying sand and dust.

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Hey very nice, don't it feel good to get your money's worth LOL!!!

You just don't discard usable parts, and it cuts fine!   :D

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A chainsaw grinder is a machine and a machine will beat a man every time. However, I never use  anything but a file for two reasons; for one dry grinding hardens the tooth edge so it files hard and 2 I can't carry a grinder in my file pocket. I spend a lot of time making saw logs out of tree service stuff and have to file constantly. It depends on the kind of cutting you do.

Hello sir...., yes the grinders do keep the angles correct....I also take more than one chain with me when I cut....I am always strapped for time, so I just swap chains....you are correct that a grinder "CAN" harden a tooth.....however, if the oprerater uses the correct technique, you will never burn a cutter....

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Free hand filing.
The best I can do picture wise. Need to touch up the chain again, I know! And I am not using chisel chain, wood is too filled with sand for it to work - I live close to the coast, with lots of flying sand and dust.

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  Do you use a grinder or hand file???

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Here is a Stihl RS chaini ground.....this is about as aggressive as I go for my chains....since I cut hardwood if I get any more of a point it wouldn't last to long....as long as I keep the proper raker height, it cuts great and no chatter!!!


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Here is the types of chains customers bring me....

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Here is a few Stihl RM chain I ground....


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Free hand filing.
The best I can do picture wise. Need to touch up the chain again, I know! And I am not using chisel chain, wood is too filled with sand for it to work - I live close to the coast, with lots of flying sand and dust.

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  Do you use a grinder or hand file???

Hand file. Faster, sharper and cheaper. And I can do it whenever needed.

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Here is the types of chains customers bring me....
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 Right there is where a grinder comes in really handy. We get some in that are that bad, they even take a while on the grinder. There was a guy was bringing in 5 almost that bad every few days and finally I asked him what in the world he's being trying to cut. He said he had a group of people working clearing brush for horse riding trails, I guess they were cutting down to the dirt alot. Around here you can't do that, too many rocks. If you pick 1 rock in Missouri, 3 more will sprout up  :D
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Free hand filing.
The best I can do picture wise. Need to touch up the chain again, I know! And I am not using chisel chain, wood is too filled with sand for it to work - I live close to the coast, with lots of flying sand and dust.

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  Do you use a grinder or hand file???

Hand file. Faster, sharper and cheaper. And I can do it whenever needed.
  I used  to think hand filing was sharper too....have you used a grinder....


  I have found I can grind any full chisel or semi chisel chain as good or better than hand filing....and I used to swear a grinder would only burn chain LOL!! 

Could you post some of your hand filed chains by chance?????

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Does the Simington square chisel grinder work good? If so, can it also found grind?
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Well the BT 6870 went back to work today . By the time I got set up I got about 2 cord ran through . Cutting small Ash up to 10 inch . I wish I would have left my chain alone Rakers at .025 with a new stone on the grinder no hold down but you better have one hand on the cut off when you hit it with the 044 or it will throw it out of the feed deck . On harder or larger wood no problem .
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Does the Simington square chisel grinder work good? If so, can it also found grind?
  Yes those square grinders are great....they will only do a square chain though, I do believe...a lot of guys like square ground for hardwood....I have personally never seen ran any square chain.... 

   Have you had the grinder for awhile???
 
   Is there any way you can get a picture and model number, I can get you more info on it...there are guys that would buy that grinder in a heartbeat, considering it's in decent shape and price if fair!!!!

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Does the Simington square chisel grinder work good? If so, can it also found grind?
  Yes those square grinders are great....they will only do a square chain though, I do believe...a lot of guys like square ground for hardwood....I have personally never seen ran any square chain.... 

   Have you had the grinder for awhile???
 
   Is there any way you can get a picture and model number, I can get you more info on it...there are guys that would buy that grinder in a heartbeat, considering it's in decent shape and price if fair!!!!

Dang spell check, I wanted to say round grind not found grind.

I do not have the Simington I was just dreaming about switching to square chisel and that grinder is almost affordable if it really works and square is noticeably better. We cut hard and soft wood. Would be used for felling, bucking and milling.
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Does the Simington square chisel grinder work good? If so, can it also found grind?
  Yes those square grinders are great....they will only do a square chain though, I do believe...a lot of guys like square ground for hardwood....I have personally never seen ran any square chain.... 

   Have you had the grinder for awhile???
 
   Is there any way you can get a picture and model number, I can get you more info on it...there are guys that would buy that grinder in a heartbeat, considering it's in decent shape and price if fair!!!!

Dang spell check, I wanted to say round grind not found grind.

I do not have the Simington I was just dreaming about switching to square chisel and that grinder is almost affordable if it really works and square is noticeably better. We cut hard and soft wood. Would be used for felling, bucking and milling.

Lol, I knew what you meant....

  Donyou have a grinder right now...I cut 90% hardwood, and I occasionally cut pith elm or silver maple(I call softwood).....every time I cut maple it amazes me how easy it is to cut...it's no wonder why guys cutting line and other soft wood can run the log bars....you can't get away with that buried in hedge, locust, oaks....

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OK you guys who both file and grind, would you care to let me in on both how and what you grind with so you can file afterwards if you want??   :(  I file my chains when ever possible and I dare say I am decent at it. I bought a Oregon clone grinder several years ago to keep my processor chains in shape. I have used it on other chains but rarely now because cant seem to get it done without hardening some of the cutters glass hard.  Changed wheels to Oregon brand, changed techniques to no avail. I am not turning my cutters blue, just touching them with quick touches and I still get some glass hard cutters, from a couple to half the chain. They cant be touched with a file afterwards. Once ground, have to grind afterwards. It is especially a problem with my favored RS and RSK Stihl chains, less so with the Carton chain. I am getting a very good chain with the grinder just dont like being locked into grinding after it is preformed once.
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use a borazon wheel from Comstock. much more betterer  ;)
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