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Re:  Gotta Have Some Idears
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2004, 12:38:17 pm »
 8) For some unknown reason when the internet was started capital letters were not used. When they were it was considered yelling so I have been told .

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Re:  Gotta Have Some Idears
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2004, 02:50:09 pm »
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Dear Harold

Try this if you have a workshop band saw.
Use the thinnest quarter inch band blade that you can find, between 4 and 6 teeth per inch will be fine.

I prefer to use branch wood taken from senior trees that are having their crowns reduced, this utilises what would normally be a waste product and a major plus is that the wood tends to be old and knarled.  
I split the branches in two lengthways sometimes down the middle, sometimes off centre whilst trying to keep them as long as possible. They are then loaded into the kiln utilising the air space on the top of a strapped down load and to the sides of the fans.
The wilder the grain the better e.g. bends, snapped off dead branches that are being overgrown, crotch wood, warts and burrs are superb. Old Ash is very good for this, as is Yew.
If you want to end up with a finished box 12" long, begin with a 13-14" blank.  
Start by flatting the base on the jointer or by hand, then to the band saw, flip the blank on its end and start shaping the outside of the top using the bark line as a guide.  Making sure you stray over and under the line as you cut.
Lay it down on the flatted base and cut both ends off to about the finished size, I tend to use a vaguely 'S' shape cut, utilising anything of interest I find in the grain.  
Flip it up on its end again and cut off the lid approximately 1/4" from the outside edge, then back on to the flatted base and take another cut from each end, about 1/8" thick will be sufficient.
Back on to its edge and cut out a deep 'U' shape to form the hollow body of the box, the 'U' shape needs to funnel from what will be your front edge, down into the 'U', up the back and funnel out to the back, in a nice organic, smooth, flowing single cut.

Now, reassemble everything you have cut, so it forms the complete blank again.  
If you like the look of what you see, then take the trouble to sand the bandsaw marks off the lid, with a light sand along the two end grains at this point, stay away from the back and front edge of the lid.  
Glue the two big ends back on to the body (I use 5 minute poly glue or superglue).  
Clean up the inside, leaving the bandsaw marks in the 'U' shaped body. Clean the saw marks off the inside faces of the two thin 1/8" pieces and glue them into their respective  places inside the body.  Taking the trouble to ensure that everything lines up perfectly.
Clean up the body, check the lid for fit (it will be supported by the 1/8 pieces), adjust as necessary, clean up all around.
Oil and wax.
You can either hinge the lid or leave it as a lift off.
 
It's far easier to make a box than it is to write out the instructions.  It takes me about 45 seconds to cut out, 4 minutes to reglue with poly and a set of 'quicke' clamps, 15 minutes to sand and clean, oil and wax.
The boxes are then worth about $25 for small ones (4 to 7 inches long) and up to $150 for bigger ones (12 inches long).
But I don't sell them, these are the amounts people have offered to buy them for.  To date I have made about 45, they are given away as presents and are in great demand.

Yours Sincerely

Mr. James Iain Swanson
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Re:  Gotta Have Some Idears
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2004, 03:03:47 pm »
 :o :o :o :o  Iain, Thanks. Got Pics. :o :o :o ::) ::) ;D ;D :D :D

 My bandsaw only raises to 7" ::) ::)
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Re:  Gotta Have Some Idears
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2004, 03:07:14 pm »
Fantastic!  Thanks very much. For this 'bubblehead', that was VERY clear (to me) and I enjoyed hearing about the extra care and work that goes into each 'box'.  :)
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Re:  Gotta Have Some Idears
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2004, 03:13:45 pm »
  Oh YEAH ???  well, uhh,  OH YEAH ??????
 Ya surmisin I'm iggurant, there, Beenthere??? :D :D :D :D :D

 I gotta re-read that post about 10 times, but, I WILL get it  ;) ;D ;D ;D
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Re:  Gotta Have Some Idears
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2004, 03:18:15 pm »


A log builder buddy of mine built a chest and simply brushed the inside of the lid with his chainsaw. Same idea as creating a scribed notch.
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Re:  Gotta Have Some Idears
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2004, 07:38:34 pm »
I love when someone else sees something my way.  This forum allows me to skip the anger and anything else that I am unable to understand by scrolling away.  I always check to see where any poor skills are coming from and wonder what the history is behind them.  I am always serious first and facitious after the fact.  Unless I get the chance to do it the other way around.  I would sure like to see some pictures of chests completed [treasure chests].  I even got a camera today to see if I can figure how to get a picture on here.

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Re:  Gotta Have Some Idears
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2004, 09:54:29 pm »
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I've been on the forum for a while now, and you are far from ""iggurant "", and I've come to lookin for your ideas and ways of crankin things out whenever you post.  With the idears you are getting on this project, I'm anxious to learn what you will put together from it all.  :)  (as well I like reading of the different ways others suggest along with the precautions safety-wise).  

I'm also anxious to see some pics too, especially of iain's projects (I thought he penned that 'letter' to you pretty formal-like  ;D, and I think I caught a mental glimps of his toungue sticking out at me   ;D , which I probably deserved).
;)  I hope for no hard feelings, but let me have it if there are any.  :)
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Re:  Gotta Have Some Idears
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2004, 03:08:53 am »
  Naaahhhhhhh, no hard feelings.  ;D :D

 Just can't stand it when someone picks up on an explanation, right off, and I gotta have pics to SEE what's being described. ::) ::)

 Guess that's why I'm a loner when it comes to figuring out stuff  ::) ;D ;D :D :D :D
All truth passes through three stages:
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   Second, it is violently opposed; and
   Third, it is accepted as self-evident.

-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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Re:  Gotta Have Some Idears
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2004, 01:05:15 pm »
Fla._,

I read the post from "iain" thru about 3 times, the way I interpret his process is: he cuts the ends square and then cuts them off, then uses the bandsaw to shape the inside of the box and then glues the ends back on.

If your bandsaw is like the 14 inch Delta, you could make a "riser block" to increase the depth of cut.

How many boxes do you plan on making?

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Re:  Gotta Have Some Idears
« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2004, 01:29:39 pm »
  Hi "D". The guy has trouble getting enough.  More orders than suppliers.

 The poor old Bandsaw has already had more mods than a partly wrecked vehicle. ::) ::) ;D
All truth passes through three stages:
   First, it is ridiculed;
   Second, it is violently opposed; and
   Third, it is accepted as self-evident.

-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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Re:  Gotta Have Some Idears
« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2004, 03:34:32 pm »
Harold,
 You got pics? What about the rest of us?
  Sounds like iains are"rustic" I tried it with a couple hunks of 2x4 just cut the outside shape of the top on the band saw,cut off the ends then cut the inside shape off the top and put the ends back on. Did the box the same way,cut off the ends,stood it on end,cut out the box and ut the ends back on.You could use a4x4 for the bottom to make a deeper box.Problem is my guides only go up about 5 3/4 inches so makes for a short box!
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Re:  Gotta Have Some Idears
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2004, 11:04:22 pm »
didnt retype nothing just dictated it to linda as she dont even look at what shes typing and can type faster than i can dictate
the boxs can look rustic or posh depending on the time and care you put into them and the reason you leave the ends square is to make reglueing easy i'll try to get pics today some time (this makes four lots of pics i owe the forum) beenthere look no caps or full stops and heres your tongue :P :D :D


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