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winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« on: February 03, 2016, 09:14:00 am »
Ok, I know you guys are probably tired of my questions, but I like to get ideas from people that know much more than I can imagine.

I am interested and possibly making log turners for my homemade mill.  I have been searching the forum for ideas and have found a few.  I already have a couple of 12v winches on hand that I would like to use.  I see that most are hydraulic driven, but I dont have the materials for this.

I have seen many posts that elk42 created his out of winches, and I have checked out his gallery.  However, I am a little slow.  I can't really figure out how his works.  Are their two winches that attach to the turner? One to lift it up and one to pull it into the log?  Can anyone explain or direct me to pictures/videos that may show how these work?
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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2016, 09:21:54 am »
How big are the logs that you will be milling???
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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2016, 09:51:13 am »
about 22" diameter would be the largest.  But, Most would be smaller than this.

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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2016, 10:23:06 am »
Yes,ya need a way to turn log`s......On you-tube,search for what your interested in......
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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2016, 11:46:09 am »
Norwood has a winch log turning system, which also incorporates into log loading.  You might check out some of their videos.  Theirs is hand cranked, but I converted mine to a 12V electric with no problem and can work all day with a single deep cycle marine battery.  A couple of things to think about: The winch should pull straight up on the log so that it works efficiently and doesn't put too much stress on the log stops.  You will only need the turner for the first few turns.  After that, a cant hook is quicker.  I use a high lift farm jack for turning the big ones, and it works great.

Here is my dad loading a log with the winch:


Turning a log with a farm jack.  A rope is wrapped around and hooked onto the log so it turns when the raising the jack.

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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2016, 05:11:02 pm »
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This is how my turner works on this  smiley_devil hickory log.
 

 

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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2016, 06:24:57 pm »
If you can get a cheap engine lift and put a boat winch on it you will have one
that can roll really big logs. You can also use a cheap car jack.

 

 

 

 
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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2016, 09:34:36 pm »
Thanks guys!
I see the one is mobile. Does it not flip over when turning the log? I was wondering how sturdy it is going to have to be to keep the "frame" of the turner from turning over. My tracks to my mill are sitting on the ground. If I weld a turner with tubing to my tracks is it going to twist my rails? Or turn it over?

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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2016, 09:57:34 pm »
I used a home made claw turner in my old manual LT-15.  It was fast, easy to build, and turned some big ones like this.  It used a 3000 lb winch. 


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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2017, 02:56:35 pm »
Where do/can I buy the turner arm? , all I found with a search was hydraulic one, like the simple winch idea..

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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2017, 05:39:08 pm »
Cant hook parts ebay...
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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2017, 05:52:39 am »
My swinging boom loader/turner also slides in and out and is part of the mill.
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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2017, 07:03:12 am »
My swinging boom loader/turner also slides in and out and is part of the mill.
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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2017, 10:55:47 pm »
Where do/can I buy the turner arm? , all I found with a search was hydraulic one, like the simple winch idea..
I built it from scratch, based on the Woodmizer design.  A couple pieces of 2" square tube, hinged in the middle, one side mounted to the inside of the mill with a pivot bolt, the other end of the arm with a claw.  A winch hooked to the joint to raise and lower. It's a very simple build and worked like a champ.
I made the arms adjustable for length but I never changed it.  Here's a couple pics


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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2017, 08:21:37 am »
O.K. Hammer, explains why I can`t find one, thanks for the close up pics, I`ll have to get my fabricator/son on this, looks like it works great.

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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2017, 10:31:23 am »
Here's a video of an LT28 that has a hand operated winch claw turner.  Mine is basically the same but hooked to an electric winch.  The winch claw turner is at 1:35 minutes into the video.



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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2017, 12:44:50 pm »
YH,   

You've shown many great mods, can you tell me what the notched piece on the cross member in the lower right was for?  Someday when I make time I will add some of these mods to my lt15.
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Re: winch log turner ideas (elk42)
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2017, 08:11:32 pm »
I can't take credit for that, it's a sliding toe board wedge I bought from WM many years ago.  It would fit over any of the bed rails and slide backward and forward.  The idea was that a cant hook would be placed under a log end and used to lever it up.  Then the sliding wedge would be rammed under log to hold it up in that position. 

I later started using a car jack for a toeboard, and built a two plane clamp so I never had to use the wedge again. 
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