Author Topic: old saws (Read 6119 times)

james · « **on:** October 11, 2004, 05:16:48 am »

wish i had pics

dad had an old two man saw with a 96"bar and a big 2 cyl motor it was green i remember that much. the instructions called for a 20:1 mix using 30wt non detergent motor oil also used motor oil on the bar i think the thing musta been 50 lbs

he traided it to a neighbor for a wheelboro
when i was 5 knowing dad it probably was about to die he never got rid of anything that was working

Chris J · « **Reply #1 on:** October 11, 2004, 11:13:06 pm »

Hi, James. Sounds like you might be describing a Diston (spelling?) or a Mall. Have you tried Chain Saw Collectors Corner (acresinternet.com)?

Later, MN

Jeff · « **Reply #2 on:** October 12, 2004, 04:36:56 pm »

Saw these that looked "outta da box" at paul bunyan.

Chris J · « **Reply #3 on:** October 12, 2004, 11:03:04 pm »

Thanks, Jeff, for the photos. Those old saws look like they've never been gassed up. Had they been restored, or were they never or barely used? Thanks.

MN

james · « **Reply #4 on:** October 14, 2004, 06:21:16 pm »

:)thanx MN
shure looks like that old disston never did see him run it tho

jim

Tom · « **Reply #5 on:** October 14, 2004, 09:49:48 pm »

How's this for a working saw?

Chris J · « **Reply #6 on:** October 15, 2004, 12:37:16 pm »

I was watching a two-man Disston on eBay; I forget the model #, but it was 12HP twin cylinder model. The price was looking good, but the bidding in the last few minutes drove the price out of my reach. BTW-What does that working saw weigh? Hope that you don't have to carry it too far into the woods, or climb with it

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Thanks, MN

Jeff · « **Reply #7 on:** November 10, 2004, 01:03:50 pm »

Couldn't resist this for a ten dollar bill. Got good compression for a one armed guy anyhow. Bet Chet can get it running.

Even has the original owners manual which is really cool to read. Gives instructions for building cabins and bridges and such with your "New Wright saw"

redpowerd · « **Reply #8 on:** November 10, 2004, 01:15:26 pm »

cool, looks like a grandaddy sawzall!
how thin is the kerf? looks thicker than a chainsaw.
pretty cool!

Jeff · « **Reply #9 on:** November 10, 2004, 01:19:22 pm »

Not really, manual says 3/16 ths

Bro. Noble · « **Reply #10 on:** November 10, 2004, 01:22:45 pm »

Someone ought to be manufacturing something like that now for log builders and timberframers. They weren't as fast as a chainsaw, but made a really smooth cut.

I bought a new Wright chainsaw in the early 70's. It was a little more modern looking than your saw, but they made it with the reciprecating blade too. I'll bet they made chainsaws with the same head as yours too.

That was a good find and a good buy

redpowerd · « **Reply #11 on:** November 10, 2004, 01:28:45 pm »

yep, id give twenty, runnin or not, just to take it apart and put it together again

must have a little pitman arm running the recip?
looks like it could really shake the snot outta ya if yer not payin attention!

be pretty handy to swap a bar onto it for the woods, then the blade for around the house

Jeff · « **Reply #12 on:** November 10, 2004, 01:32:33 pm »

I was looking on Mike Acres site and the newer models that Noble was talking about could be ordered with a "Meat" blade.

Mine was made from 1960 and discontinued in 62. That makes it the same vintage as me.

Bro. Noble · « **Reply #13 on:** November 10, 2004, 01:40:22 pm »

The heads weren't interchangable for the chainsaw and the recrip blade I don't believe, but they must have used a lot of the same parts.

Used to know a coustom butcher that would use achainsaw to split carcasses. He used vegetable oil on the bar. Don't know how he got it cleaned up and sanitized-----or if he even tried

:-/

redpowerd · « **Reply #14 on:** November 10, 2004, 01:52:53 pm »

talking of meat saws made me dig thru the basement to find this odd looking electric saw that i and a few others think may have been a meat saw.
its called a 6 1/4" clutch saw. looks very much like a skil saw, with a handle and hand guard where the fence addjustment would be on a skill saw. the bar goes straight down, if you hold it like a skil. if holding like a chainsaw, feels left handed.
anyway, theres no way to oil the chain, and it appears to be make of kitchen type stainless, thats what makes us think its a meat cutter.

mabie its on mikes site

Silverback · « **Reply #15 on:** November 10, 2004, 08:47:20 pm »

Sounds like a meat saw. Although most modern ones are pneumatic (I worked in a meat packing plant in MN for a year).

weimedog · « **Reply #16 on:** November 11, 2004, 08:43:46 am »

I kind of like blending hobbie with necessity. We are heating with wood and building stalls, fences, etc. with lumber off our place.....I discovered bringing old saws back to life and putting them to work is really fun for me...and it helps push along those things that NEED to be done.

(I do Keep the Husky around for backup)

Primary saws?

Homelite XL800 w/20in bar is a cutting ANIMAL as compared to the Husky!
Homelite XL925 w/ 28in bar (No. 1 saw)

Those saws cut really well and do 90 percent of what I have done this last month and plan to do in the future.

The other saws in use are:
A McCulloch 797 is my milling saw. (over 200ft of 25"-30" inch wide planks and counting)
A Homelite XL-1020 is my blocking saw. Just easier than taking apart the mill to block.

The Husqvarna 365 stays in the truck to make certain work actually gets done! (should something fail.)

I guess its amazing to me how well those oldie but goldies cut even relative to the new saws! I don't lose any time to the new saws with those 82cc Homelites..

As far as motorsports are concerned...bringing an old Homelite back to life is way cheaper AND more practical than bringing one of my old Dirt Bikes back...same level of mechanical satisfaction but the wood helps the household!

Hopefully there will be enough interest in the future to entice aftermarket airfilters, carb kits & the like. (As there is with motorcycles)

DonE911 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 12, 2004, 07:07:27 pm »

I have an old 66 super whiz in the shed that my grandfather used to clear our property back in the day...Don't recall xactly but its got at least a 36" bar on it. I had it running about 10 years ago, but the entire starter recoil is missing... aint no fun to hand wrap the starter rope for every pull... my electric drill back then wouldn't turn it over but I bet my impact wrench would..... hmmmmmm

This old saw post made me think of that old boy... are parts still available for them?? I guess I should check ebay... I would like to get it running again...

weimedog · « **Reply #18 on:** November 13, 2004, 02:33:47 pm »

Actually there are parts available for those old saws. A couple of folks who frequent eBay also are good sources of parts...and they know each other. For example "Randy's Engine Repair 937-927-5665" is a frequent seller of old parts. When he didn't have a part I was looking for he refered me to a local guy who has TON's (and I do mean ton's) of new-old-stock parts for McCulloch's and Homelites. I have not had a problem since. Also eBay tends to be a good source if you have the time.

sawguy21 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 14, 2004, 10:55:44 am »

Speaking of old Disston's, I have one that was converted to drive a fire pump. The B.C. Forest Service used them into the 80's. It's a basket case but it's FREE. Just pay the shipping.

Lewis Brander · « **Reply #20 on:** November 18, 2004, 05:23:53 pm »

To Jeff B. On the picture of the old Disston, model D0-101, who has that saw. In the picture it shows the engine decals. I've been looking for those decals for my saw, that I've restored to running condition and have painted. Just need the engine decals to finish her up and need a source for them. Any help you could provide to locate those decals would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. lonebear30.

Ianab · « **Reply #21 on:** November 18, 2004, 05:35:21 pm »

Maybe a good signwriter could make you a replacement set of decals cut from stick-on vinyl? So long as they have a similar font they can draw them up on computer and cut them out in a couple of minutes. Wont be the 'Genuine Originals' but will look OK if the real ones aren't available.

Ian

Lewis Brander · « **Reply #22 on:** November 18, 2004, 05:42:46 pm »

To lanab. I have a fellow who will do the decals if I can find a decent source to copy them from. I've contacted Disston Precisions and also the Tacony Historical Society, looking for any representation of those decals. No luck. A friend in Mich. has some Disstons with the decals on them, but they are too far gone to try to copy from a photogragh. Just seems that they should be at least one decal to scrounge up from somewhere to make a copy from. lonebear30.

Jeff · « **Reply #23 on:** November 18, 2004, 06:52:20 pm »

lonebear30, I didn't get the fellers name I am sorry to say. The only way I can figure on tracking him down is to try to contact the people who put on the paul bunyan show in nelsonville and ask about the exibitors. Maybe they can figure out who he was as he was an exibitor.

Lewis Brander · « **Reply #24 on:** November 19, 2004, 07:51:12 am »

Jeff, that would be really appreciated if you could find out who had that saw. Would really like to get a good representation of that decal, if it is available, or might try to get some from him if he has them reproduced and has extras. Thanks. lonebear30.

Jeff · « **Reply #25 on:** November 19, 2004, 08:16:14 am »

I gave you the info so YOU can find out. You now know as much as I do.

redpowerd · « **Reply #26 on:** November 19, 2004, 08:34:53 am »

HOMEWORK

hey if you had a picture of them, i could draw them up.

Jeff · « **Reply #27 on:** November 19, 2004, 08:51:19 am »

I went back through my unedited photos but didnt have anything clear enough. I also was looking for clues to who the guy was but didnt find any.

Bro. Noble · « **Reply #28 on:** November 19, 2004, 10:48:54 am »

That chainsaw guy on www.acresinternet.com probably can tell you where to get decals and probably has good pictures as well.

Man you ought ta see the saw on his front page today. Jeff will have to have one

Lewis Brander · « **Reply #29 on:** November 19, 2004, 12:12:02 pm »

OK Jeff, I'll see what I can find out. I contacted Frank Sadlin on Mike's site. He's the fellow I talked to on reproducing these decals, but he has no way to do them without an original copy or something to work from. I sent him the pictures I received and he stated that he couldn't use them. I've contacted others who have said that they can do them from the same pictures, but want upwards to $250.00 to $300.00 to work them up and reproduce them and I'm not made of money. I'll have to try and contact Mr. Ring Lardner at Disston Precisions and see if he happened to come across them in the Disston archives. Thanks, the suggestions and help. Lewis Brander.

Jeff · « **Reply #30 on:** November 19, 2004, 01:11:42 pm »

Take the time and look at the collectors section. There are several guys there that list email address's that might be able to help.

I like THIS saw, look at the 3rd picture down.

Shannon_Billman · « **Reply #31 on:** November 19, 2004, 09:23:42 pm »

The place to go for vintage homelite needs is "Hawkins Bros.# 573-588-4731 .They are the homelite pros.

Chris J · « **Reply #32 on:** November 19, 2004, 10:54:50 pm »

And the place to go for obsolete (& some newer) Jonsered parts is George Blake, (self edit).

Self edit: I goofed. I was informed on another post that it's against the site rules to post someone else's email address. If you're not familiar with George, & think you might want his email, let me know.

Lewis Brander · « **Reply #33 on:** November 23, 2004, 04:33:48 pm »

Hello to all. Well I contacted Disston Precisions and the Taconi/Historical Society again and no luck on the decals as yet. The fellow at Disston Precisions hasn't forgot me and is still looking. I did manage to find some contact information for the Hocking College in Nelsomville that apparently puts on the Paul Bunyan show and sent a couple of emails to see if some informaiton on the exhibitors can be forund. Will now have to wait to see what happens. Take care. Lewis.

redpowerd · « **Reply #34 on:** November 24, 2004, 05:57:39 am »

i hope i can stop by and see your saws soon, mr brander. id like you to look at this old saw i have thats electric, mabie you want it.?

Lewis Brander · « **Reply #35 on:** November 24, 2004, 05:23:39 pm »

Hey Redpowered, you stop by anytime and we'll look at and fire up a couple of the saws I have and have a coffee or 2. Do you have my address or phone number? I'll email it to you if you need it. Lewis. Brander.

weimedog · « **Reply #36 on:** November 25, 2004, 06:41:14 am »

I'd love to see some of that old iron working on the full sized wood it was designed for. It would be fun to get a few vintage guys & vintage saws projects together up there in the North Country and tinker with those old saws, and push a few vintage saw projects further along. If there isn't a good place up there, I can supply the place a little further south & some big wood!

Jeff · « **Reply #37 on:** November 26, 2004, 11:12:08 am »

The old Wright lives! Chet and I tore it down and put it back together and got it running without any added parts other then fuel line. We did add a spark plug and fuel cap gasket today though.

Here is a couple of video clips with Chet running the saw.

http://www.forestryforum.com/media/MOV01181.MPG

http://www.forestryforum.com/media/MOV01174.MPG

Tom · « **Reply #38 on:** November 28, 2004, 09:28:03 am »

Cool ! Did you try it in a "real" log to see how hard it would pull?

Chet · « **Reply #39 on:** November 28, 2004, 11:29:33 am »

Sure ya had ta ask! :-/ Now he'll show da udder vidio, da one dat I stalled it.

Jeff · « **Reply #40 on:** November 28, 2004, 12:05:28 pm »

Chet tried an undercut acording to the old manual.

I'll put it along later with a real cut.

Jeff · « **Reply #41 on:** November 28, 2004, 12:14:36 pm »

Links:Links:
Wright Saw cutting

The Undercut (

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Tom · « **Reply #42 on:** November 28, 2004, 12:46:05 pm »

"We've come a long way, Baby".

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #43 on:** November 28, 2004, 02:47:48 pm »

For some reason when Jeff mentioned the option for a meat blade on that saw, I had a startling vision from the movie 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre'. Just call me a meatball Jeff.

Ron Scott · « **Reply #44 on:** November 28, 2004, 05:23:44 pm »

Jeff went a long way to get that saw running

Looks like there wasn't any snow yet.

Chet · « **Reply #45 on:** November 28, 2004, 05:43:51 pm »

Nope no snow.

But shortly after da pictures it started, now it probably won't quit 'till April or May.

Jeff · « **Reply #46 on:** November 28, 2004, 07:41:57 pm »

Yea, Chet took me on a thrill ride up in da north woods of iron river during the wet heavy snow. We took his 2 wheel drive 4 wheel drive ranger. We were goona go up to Shotgun's camp but never made it that far. We got stuck in the middle of a hill about 3 days walk from civilization. :-/

Chet · « **Reply #47 on:** November 28, 2004, 07:57:41 pm »

Don't believe dat Jeff guy for a minute. He just gets nervous. We got back in plenty of time for dinner.

Jeff · « **Reply #48 on:** November 28, 2004, 08:01:31 pm »

There's a little more to da story. How bouts Jeff standing on the bumper trying to give that little ford some traction? Didn't work!

Ron Scott · « **Reply #49 on:** November 28, 2004, 08:45:17 pm »

Time to get out the "chains". Any deer??

2strokesmoke · « **Reply #50 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:31:59 am »

Since we're on the topic of old saws, I need a little advice.
I have inherited an old Sears Roebuck chainsaw. I know very little about it. It is a 2 stroke, manual oiler, it has a gear drive reduction unit, and about a 20 inch bar. Where would a guy start getting info and parts on an old saw like this? I'd like to restore it and get it running. It is in very good shape and I feel it is worth the trouble. Thanks.

Buzz-sawyer · « **Reply #51 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:58:11 am »

Well, one things for sure, if its a sears someone else made it!!!

Jeff · « **Reply #52 on:** November 30, 2004, 11:27:07 am »

Did it look like this?

http://www.forestryforum.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=chainsaws;action=display;num=1090706564;start=11

Lewis Brander · « **Reply #53 on:** December 02, 2004, 02:56:25 pm »

Hey 2strokesmoke. What are the numbers on the saw. Should be able to look it up on the Chainsawcollector's site: www.acresinternet.com. Can you post a picture of it. I've got to go through my pictures and resize them to post on this site. No biggie, just will take some time. Thaks, and take care. Lewis.

Chris J · « **Reply #54 on:** December 03, 2004, 10:14:28 am »

I have an old David Bradley D-21, & when I was searching the net for parts list info I found either a link to (or advice to try) Sears.com. I might have the name wrong; my memory is lousy :-/. Once I was in the site I nosed around until I selected parts??, & amazingly when I put in the either the model # or the serial # (my lousy memory again), several very nicely detailed parts lists came up, & I was able to print them.

I actually have the lists with me, but it doesn't show the website address. Several of the pages do show copyright of Sears, Roebuck, & co. Hope this helps, & good luck.

2strokesmoke · « **Reply #55 on:** December 13, 2004, 05:40:05 am »

Jeff B: Similar to that saw you posted. Mine has the same handle, same gas/oil tank, but my engine is more shrowded and the chain on mine is not directly driven off the engine. I have a gear reduction drive on mine. I'll have to get some pictures. But there are similarities between my saw and that one you posted. Thanks!

Al_Smith · « **Reply #56 on:** December 17, 2004, 05:01:36 pm »

As far as finding specs on old saws,Mike Acres site has about any ever made,along with other helpful info on chains,carbs,etc.I have a few of my saws on that site,the last are 2 McCulloch sp 125 s.On the subject of decals,there is a fellow in Indiana,by the name of Jack Maples,who made all kinds of decals for antique tractors,stationary engines,etc.He may be on the net,but I don't know,nor do I know his address.I did,however talk to him several years ago,in Portland Indiana,at the steam engine show.It is a family buisiness,and he stated at that time,he could make any decal,for any thing.

Jeff · « **Reply #57 on:** December 18, 2004, 12:01:31 pm »

I should send mike some info and pics of my BarkerRim Saws. Does not seem to be anything on there. I guess technically they are not chainsaws, but then again niether is my Wright.

weimedog · « **Reply #58 on:** December 18, 2004, 09:09:24 pm »

Looks like that wright saw would be nice right up until you pinch it in a log...then who gets the beating? You or the log?

Chet · « **Reply #59 on:** December 18, 2004, 10:36:56 pm »

The saw is direct drive, when she's runnin' so is the blade. ::)But it does have a kill switch mechanism built into the throttle. If you release the trigger without engaging the no-kill mechanism the saw instantly dies.

Weimedog,
I notice you got an 1130G, I've carried one of dem around awhile. Now dars a saw dat will wear ya out!

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