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Offline red

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Re: Back pain
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2017, 02:24:19 pm »
Surgery is not always the answer like you said .  I often wonder about acupuncture ?   But I can't imagine being stuck with needles. There are many things I have not done since my surgery in 1998 at 35 years old. Like horseback riding , bowling, golf , riding almost anything, now I am very careful on ladders too. But I do my Best to just get up early in the morning and do it all over again.
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Re: Back pain
« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2017, 06:24:01 am »
I cut down some dead ash trees yesterday, then bucked them up for firewood. I was extremely careful ,  but I really don't ever remember cutting firewood in this heat . Back is sore today legs are weak  so lots of rest and pickle juice today.
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Re: Back pain
« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2017, 11:58:22 am »
I managed to walk about a thousand feet yesterday in about 10 occasions. I congratulated myself for not collapsing while going a hundred feet. Oh how life changes our priorities!! Therapy says I've got more numbness now that tells her another disc is going. Yeehaa!!

Anyway I'll try and get as far as the shop today so I can sit there and give orders. I figured a couple of days rest and I could be back at it, but it's been a couple of weeks now and I'm back on meds and I don't like it. I've always hated pills; they make you less than sharp. I like to be sharp as a cookie ya know!   :D
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Re: Back pain
« Reply #43 on: July 24, 2017, 03:13:14 pm »
 The pills are awful,I'm on a bunch of them also. Did the doctor say anything about replacing the disk? I've heard of a few people who have had it done. They've been doing in Europe for 10 yrs.
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Re: Back pain
« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2017, 03:18:26 pm »
take your time don't over do it   after my back surgery it took me 2 weeks to get out of my drive way and its only 120 ft long but its up hill after getting out of the gravel and on black top I was on stoppable  :) like a little kid with the training wheels off his bike  8) then after they gave me back my driver license was even better then I went to the job and aggravated my dad  :D

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Re: Back pain
« Reply #45 on: July 24, 2017, 06:00:38 pm »
The pills are awful,I'm on a bunch of them also. Did the doctor say anything about replacing the disk? I've heard of a few people who have had it done. They've been doing in Europe for 10 yrs.

I had S1/L5 and L5/L4 done it Aug 2011 in Stenum Germany. I think I was too careless and thought I'd never have trouble again and I completely neglected excercises and let my core muscles go slack. I'm too careless with my own health. Now I'm being diligent.
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Re: Back pain
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2017, 09:09:07 pm »
Just a little over a week ago my lower back was aching. Only thing I had been doing different was bushogging. Waited a couple of days and did about three hours more. Within two hours of quitting I was having pain a little worse and a certain way I moved the pain was excruciating. Would just about make me pee myself it hurt so bad.

I know a massage therapist and she wants me to come in and let her massage my lower back muscles. Haven't went yet because I knew I couldn't stand it. A little better now but have been taking Ibuprofen. Anyone had any luck with massage helping? Need to get it better next week before going back out on the road working.
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Re: Back pain
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2017, 10:40:55 pm »
Almost all of my back pain went away when I figured out it was caused by unbalanced loading. I was in the habit of strapping my nail / tool apron on hanging on my left side. It was always loaded down. The muscles running diagonally in the small of the back were fighting to keep the spine aligned. I learned that a lot of reported back pain is caused by muscle spasms.

Therapy for me at that time was playing basketball with my son, when I could stand upright. Stretching -- including hanging loose from a chin-up bar -- helped get me walking straight up.

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Is there something about bush hogging that causes you to strain one side of your back and not the other? Maybe twisting in the seat or even the shape of the seat back?
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Re: Back pain
« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2017, 12:18:41 am »
It may be the twisting around looking behind me. Never had that problem in years past but then in years past I wasn't as old as I am now.  :D I am sure the extra padding I have put on around my mid section does't help.
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Re: Back pain
« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2017, 12:54:16 am »
Deep tissue massage (which seems to be most common here) is not what you need for most pain. When I was introduced to gentle manipulative massage in Germany I learned a great deal about different methods. If I was feeling any pain he used hot hands (by briskly rubbing hands together) and applying that to muscles to soften them up enough that he could work a little deeper slowly and firmly breaking muscles down to where they were pliable. I had another therapist give me treatment after the hospital and she used the same hot hand method for soothing my back. Deep tissue massage in those situations can be very painful and not very helpful. If I have knots in my muscles then deep tissue for sure but not for muscles that are singing tight.
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Re: Back pain
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2017, 07:23:08 am »
Tylenol works better for me with the back and hip pain.I take pain meds also but they seem to only work on the bone pain in the arms and legs. When I was in the hospital for my stem cell transplant they used soft massage as Grizzly explained and it helped a lot. I get a lot of muscle pain turning around in the skidder, can't afford to go for massage so Rita does what they showed her at the hospital it helps for awhile.
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Re: Back pain
« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2017, 08:06:59 am »
I don't touch Tylenol with a ten foot pole. It killed my sister.
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Re: Back pain
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2017, 08:07:06 pm »
Went to Chiropractor today. He did a few things then had me lay flat on my stomach on the table and had me bend my knees so lower legs were pointing up and feet horizontal. Took a picture and then showed it to me and said pelvis (i think) was out of kilter and one leg was about 1.5 inches longer than the other the way it was. He did something a few times then took another picture and showed it to me. This time they were even. It had caused one of my vertibra to go out of adjustment. Put it back in place and seems to be a lot better. That was 5 hours ago. Go back Friday. Cost me $80 bucks but well worth it.
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Re: Back pain
« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2017, 07:35:41 am »
Chiro's are good with the right one, sounds like you found one, pricey rascal though,  as to the massage therapy,, I went to one concerning my knee, from a suggestion from my neighbor, well my results were not as good as his,, he does not need a new knee,  so there are differences in every case. as to the deep therapy, she asked my preference,  light, med, or heavy. 20 bucks, bout 30 min session.  I can say I will do it again at some point, and will also say I've been putting off bush hogging for the very reason you stated,, it bout kills the back,, I know my doc would have a cow if I did,
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

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Re: Back pain
« Reply #54 on: August 17, 2017, 07:50:46 am »
You have to exercise everyday . With stretching being the very minimum. Some mornings I take a hot shower before and after exercise . For pain relief I take advil , aleve , or Motrin . I also use a heating pad then ice packs .  Some days are better then others , but the wrong move can make it very painful.
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« Reply #55 on: August 17, 2017, 08:21:07 am »
We've got chiros on just about every corner. $35 gets you a walk in adjustment.
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« Reply #56 on: August 17, 2017, 10:19:15 am »
After the first visit with Chiropractor the next ones or only $30. One hour massages are $50 or a half hour for $30.

Red your right about the stretching. When I was 28 I went through the Police Academy. Back then 8 weeks. An hour of PT every morning at 5:30. When we started you had to set on the floor, legs out straight, with feet against the wall. Lean forward and try to touch the wall with your hands. Most people, me included, couldn't. Every morning first in PT was stretching exercises with a partner pushing and pulling you. After 8 weeks we did the test again setting on the floor. This time it was easy to fully put your palms on the wall.
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