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popular blades
« on: September 10, 2004, 03:24:55 am »
hi everyone just wondering what everyone is using for blades on their mills.tried some free simonds but had major problems with breakage.heard alot about those monkey blades.any suggestions would be great.

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Re: popular blades
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2004, 08:34:46 am »
I've had good luck with "Hakansson" blades
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Re: popular blades
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2004, 08:45:24 am »
Steel can vary from batch to batch, so a one time trial can be misleading.  Find a supplier that will work with you. Blades break at weld, they should be replaced for free.  A poorly aligned mill can be a source of early blade breakage.  When we compare, we try different sources back to back.  We use WM on our woodmizer mills and Simonds redstreak on our Baker.
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Re: popular blades
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2004, 08:46:04 am »
Hey a maritime supplier!  Any idea on their prices?  Princess Auto are now selling blades but they are about 50$ ea.
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Re: popular blades
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2004, 11:23:50 am »
I us a 1 1/2 inch blade a little over 18 feet long, and use the Monksforsager blades. I tried the Timberwolf product, but didn't care for it. I ordered a couple sample WM blades, but they sent them too short. By the way, anyone need two WM blades 211 inches long?

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2004, 12:42:24 pm »
I would appreciatte it guys if you gave priority to trying what our sponsors have to offer before advertising for other non supporting blade guys. Menomminee saw and Kenne saw both have different brands and people that you can talk to for tech information as well as Wood-mizer, TimberKing and Baker. All these folks help support your forum and would be a wealth of information I am sure, just by calling a few. Tell them your from the forestry forum!
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Re: popular blades
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2004, 12:51:48 pm »
I ordered my Monks from Menomee, and let them know that this forum is where I heard of them AND where I got all of the praise for the blades. I must agree that these blades are the best so far. Cheaper too!

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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2004, 01:00:27 pm »
Yer da man beerguy!
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2004, 07:42:39 pm »
Will certainly try Jeff, got a little excited that someone sells here, it's rare!

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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2004, 09:11:39 pm »
Menominee sells in canada!
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Re: popular blades
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2004, 09:53:55 pm »
Jeff.B    Thank's on the tip for MENOMINEE SAW,ordered some info on blades, here in the mairtimes their is not much in tha way of products localy.So we jump at the chance when you see or hear of one.PS lot's of info on this fourm!!!  8) JN68

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Re: popular blades
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2004, 04:10:54 am »
Iv'e have been using those monkey blades lately . They seem to do an oustanding job.I bought them from Kenne-Saw & Supply.I told em Fla.Deheader had sent me.  8)
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Re: popular blades
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2004, 07:45:52 am »
I've used red-streak resaw blades from Menominee saw for a long time (just like in there ad,  my grandad bought saws from them too).  Decided to try some monkey blades when FDH first went to bragging on them.  Bought 5 each of red-streak and monkey blades for our Woodmizer.  Been trying to use them equally to get a good comparison.  They've been sharpened 5 times and reset twice so far.  I can't decide which is the best for me yet,  but I know I like both of them better than anything I've used in the past.
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Re: popular blades
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2004, 08:29:19 am »
I have been using the Munks blades and I think they do a real good job. I got them from Keen-saw. They treated me very good.

I also got a couple blades from Woodmizer. I first called them last December & they sent 2 blades. When I went to use them I realized they were 1 1/4" and not 1 1/2". Anyway I called them a couple weeks ago and told them. They said no problem & sent me 2 more blades at 1 1/2" x .045. I thought that was great service considering the blades were on them.
I used 1 last Saturday on a spruce log and I was happy with how it cut. It handled the knots well.
At this point I have 2 blades 1 1/4" x .045 and 229" long I can't use. I'm going to offer them to my heighbor who has a WM. Maybe he can get them cut down.

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Re: popular blades
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2004, 12:48:44 pm »
I ordered 10 blades 1 3/8x0.035 from Munkfors today. No free blades in Sweden but talked them in to give 10% discount. Told them I can buy them cheaper in  USA  ;D

How much do you pay for monkeys there?

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Re: popular blades
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2004, 01:00:15 pm »
  Bout time you checked in.  :o :o  We get 15'-8", (don't know the metric conversion) length of 1¼" blades for $20.00 including shipping. (Don't know the conversion for money, either)  ;D ;D :D :D :D

 You been diving for them logs yet ??? ???
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2004, 01:51:21 pm »
Thank U, Fla.Dh.
I´ll  buy from Kenne Saw next time.

Swede. *swindled again*  >:(
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2004, 03:19:57 pm »
Swede ... hope you have better luck with  Customs & Revenue Dept. than we do in Canada. They add a whole new meaning to cross border shopping.[size=9]MOE $$$$[/size] :D :D :D
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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2004, 07:42:56 pm »
There is no free trade for individual Canadians, only for large companies, purchasing in the USA. With the brokerage fees, duties, taxes and hassle from the courriers, I now have my US purchases shipped to my daughter's home in Maine and pick them up when I am visiting.
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Re: popular blades
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2004, 01:36:20 am »
sweede what you pay for those monkys?
the cheapest in the uk so far is 500.532sek $68.90 >:(  :'(
with WM double hard at 247.259sek $34.04 from woodys :(

anyway will see mike and james at the APF show on friday see what show bargins they got and maybe have a play with a lt70 ;)


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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2004, 08:40:52 am »
iain;  I pay

35 x 0,90 x 4267 mm  TD 25 tpi    SEK. 227,93/st  
32 x 1,00 x 4267 mm  TD 25 tpi    SEK. 222,07/st
+VAT and freight

Euro 1~SEK. 9.20


If You want to buy 25 blades or more I can get a better deal and send them to You.

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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2004, 11:33:19 am »
 Hey Swede, could you convert that to US $$$$ ???  I would like to do a little research.
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2004, 12:16:51 pm »
Fla._D.

$1~ SEK. 7.45

So I pay ~ $ 30 for one Swdeish blade in Sweden  >:(

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« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2004, 12:31:03 pm »
  Can you give me your blade size in feet and inches, Swede
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Re: popular blades
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2004, 12:42:21 pm »
It looks like 168 inches, Harold.

http://www.onlineconversion.com/length_common.htm

If that is 25 teeth per inch, it's a lot of teeth for the band.
If that is 2.5 teeth per inch, it's still a lot of teeth.
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Re: popular blades
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2004, 02:44:16 am »
Widht of my blades: 1 3/8"
Thickness:               0,035"
Length:                    168"  0r 14'
.....and 1 teeth/inch

I don´t know why they wrote the way they did in the e-mail, perhaps lack of language?   :D

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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2004, 03:27:16 pm »
woody uk have just started a resharp service $142.25 per box of ten door to door as compared to $340.4 per box of ten new
going to drop them 54 blades on friday at the apf show saves $126.50 in postage for starters 8)
i got a woodys sharpener works good
but its the setting that narfs me off >:(
 


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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2004, 03:30:02 pm »
sorry for missing you out sweede i will prob take you up on the 25 or more
i got some friends heading to norway soon that a help in the sending?


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Re: popular blades
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2004, 05:09:02 pm »
iain;

That will be the cheapiest Monkey blades You ever got! Tell me 3 weeks or more before Your friends are here. I have to find out how to handle VAT.  ::) , I don´t want You to pay 25% extra if You don´t have to.

The setting is 1 right, 1 left, 1 not set. I use to choose a length according to pitchx3.
(ex.: 25,4x3=76.2
4267:76,2=56 groups)

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Jonsered 535/15\". Just cut firewood now.

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Re: popular blades
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2011, 04:34:20 am »
I had recently a quite interesting experience the last few days... So far I used bands which are approx 50mm wide, 1.1mm thick and 25mm tooth spacing (1").  When lastly I had to order new ones, my supplier told me the 1" tooth spacing were no longer available, and that only 22mm was available. (7/8 I think).  I was rather sceptic bacause I always order per 20. In case they would not perform well that would be quite a waste.  With the 1" bands I could saw about a half day when new, but after a few sharpenings that reduces to approx. one or two hours because the hardened tip has gone. 

Anyway, I tried with a 22mm band and to my surprise it continued to cut straight and well for a whole day!  I must say that now the days are very short here, (and cold) but they still did cut well for more then 6 hours..  I then sharpend the tips, grinded the gullets with a dremel, and could again cut for a whole day!  I would never believed before now that such a "small" difference in tooth spacing could make such a difference.

At least, there is no other parametre that has changed. Same supplier, same steel (Uddeholm Sweden), same set and same hook angle (10°).  Even the price of 28 Euros ex vat was almost the same. It must be said that with the 1" tpi bands there were 224 tooths, while the 7/8 tpi configuration gives 261 tooths for th same band length.  That must considerably reduce the stress on each tooth, but I am still amazed about the effect...  I was always in the meaning that less tooths should result in higher feed rates and more production but my recent experience seems to prove the opposite..
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