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Tree Cub
« on: March 09, 2015, 01:03:11 am »
This is the story about my micro skidder. It started out as just a bent length of bar metal with an eyelet at one end, to tie a rope to, and the other end slips into the sleeve hitch of my garden tractor.

 

 

That was simple and it did lift the end of the pole off the ground a bit.
 But I got greedy and wanted a log arch with a winch so I could pull more.

 

I made it light weight so for backing up I could disconnect it to position it near the log.  Also, the pull point was forward of the rear cart tire axle so that helped to put a bit of weight on the rear drive axle of the tractor. I called this "load forward".  :o The trees in my stand are very close together so backing up was a pain so I gave up on the arch.

But I really like the winch so it was added to the next Thing-A-Mo-Ging.

 

That works nice and puts a lot of weight on the rear drive axle. It also eliminated the cart tires, less stuff to maintain. I also put larger diameter tires on the dead front steering axle. This helped a bit going over rough ground. One of the negatives it that it's easy for the front of the tractor to go air born..  ::)

Now the next version is combining a cart with the tractor or an articulated cart tractor combo....

 

Well, to much clicking around tonight , it's time to hit the hay...  ;)
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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2015, 06:49:43 am »
Keep the ideas coming,you will get it the way you want it.
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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2015, 04:03:43 pm »
One of the equipment companies sells a small atv arch that has a strap winch on it. To backup in tricky places you winch the arch into the air by attaching to the atv back rack. When you get backed up drop it into place. Looks well built and practical.
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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2015, 08:55:11 am »
That last pic is kind of neat, it is starting to look like a mini Gafner Iron Mule. That is how they made them, take a Massey Ferguson tractor, take of the front, make the rear axle of the tractor the front axle of the skidder, put a drive line out the back to another axle that has the winch/arch or a bunk with a loader on it, for the forwarder version. That looks real cool!
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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2015, 12:50:31 am »
Starting to add the winch.

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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2015, 01:24:03 am »
Looks good and sturdy should do well, my 10yr old grandson wants me to either build him one or buy it! Keep up the good work thanks for the pics.
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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2015, 12:02:19 pm »
Can you put up more pictures of the connection between the tractor and the arch?

When you have a log loaded on the arch will it be adding weight or removing weight from the tractor wheels?

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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2015, 07:16:48 pm »
The hitch point is a bit forward of the 50% point between the rear axle and the ball hitch. So at rest it adds weight to the drive axle. When pulling if this subtracts weight from the dive axle I could rest the log on the frame and strap it down. My cart was set up this way and I always thought it worked.

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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2015, 07:27:17 pm »
Hinge point.



One more.

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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2015, 07:41:21 pm »
Cleaned out under the hood.



Will move the engine back and level.

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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2015, 07:46:49 pm »
Strap points for serious winching.

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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2015, 07:54:58 pm »
Top view.



Gas producer location.

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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2015, 09:16:42 pm »
Now that is creative, I LIKE IT. ;D
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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2015, 06:44:51 pm »
Okay, mother always said my curiosity got me into trouble, so how do you steer this thing ?? Put your foot down like Fred Flint Stone ??

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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2015, 07:24:47 pm »
Well, Fred steering wouldn't work out because a belly pan will be added, of some kind. It does well as a wheel chair, in the shop. I thought of brake steering but passed on it for a few reasons. The first try at it will be pulley and cables up to steering levers like on a dozer but might have to go with a steering wheel/cable-drum for more pull distance on the cables. Just might be the biggist problem.   :-\
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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2015, 08:06:11 pm »
Haven't had time the last two weeks for this project but below is the beginnings of the steering.

 

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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2015, 12:25:02 pm »
Really cool. Really cool. Hum... I wonder...
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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2015, 12:44:52 am »
I could open the shop doors to day so I though I'd make some room by pushing the tree cub out side to get some sun light on it. I think the steering might like to change direction fast with a mind of it's own because of bumpy ground. So so damping might help like the cylinders on a hatch back SUV. The other option would be a worm gear like winch to lock the steering in place. But I'll see how it works first.

 

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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2015, 12:48:44 am »
Been getting the first generation tractor ready for Argos next week. So I thought I'd post a vid of today's work out.




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Re: Tree Cub
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2015, 01:54:10 am »
Nice run bringing the log in, and even shifted up the gears into 3rd. Didn't seem to lack for power.

Great paint job. And the old wheel horse looks like the vintage of my old 8hp '68 wheel horse. I sold it, but the buyer still mows with it and plows snow with it.

Thanks for the video, and hope you have a good show.
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