Author Topic: (BIG) Log Buying and Selling (Read 2677 times)

Fla._Deadheader · « **on:** June 28, 2004, 08:47:36 am »

Anyone out there that deals with BIG logs, I have some questions.

We might have some BIG logs located. Lets say from 48" small end, to 120" small end.

We will have to sell them, and the mill we first started selling to was "getting" to us.

He buys using the International scale, and pays $2.00 bd/ft in the log.

As we all know, once you get to 23" dia, International and Doyle are pert near equal in scale.

I been playing with the calcitraters, using log volume, and, at 48" dia, you get 1325 ft Intl. and 1452 ft. Doyle. All figures are for a 12' log. As we get larger, the numbers go up drastically.

A 60" log has 2086 Intl. and 2352 Doyle. A 72" has 3020 Intl. and 3468 Doyle. An 84" has 4125 Intl. and 4800 Doyle. A 96" has 5402 Intl. and 6348 Doyle.

What would you guys do as far as dealing with this buyer???

1. Ask for Doyle scale over 24"

2. Ask for .50 across the board for anything over 24" using Intl. scale

3. Look for another buyer

4. Sell out and get a goobermint job and have time off to enjoy life a little

D._Frederick · « **Reply #1 on:** June 28, 2004, 10:01:52 am »

Fla-_,

Have you given up on building your swing blade saw? If your logs were in lumber, would you have a market?

Could you have the buyers come out and "bid" on your logs?

Fla._Deadheader · « **Reply #2 on:** June 28, 2004, 10:43:09 am »

Hi "D". We have more solid logs now than we know what to do with. Can't seem to find that buyer that everyone says is looking for what we have.

Anything over 6', we will have to store at a shipyard, where they have the crane to lift the big logs. Buyers would probably come and look. That was one option I didn't really want to get into.

Time and money have the "Swinger" on hold.

ARKANSAWYER · « **Reply #3 on:** June 28, 2004, 09:14:38 pm »

I would look into putting an ad in "LUMBERMEN'S" to find buyers. You could put an ad on the web or even put a log up for bid on Ebay. You can put a good resurve on it and it would not cost much even if it does not sell. The word would get out to people looking for that stuff. See what it would cost to put an ad in "SAWMILL AND WOODLOT".
Hire a swinger to saw them up. It may sell good enough to pay till you can get your own mill. Just a thinking.
ARKANSAWYER

rebocardo · « **Reply #4 on:** June 29, 2004, 04:35:44 am »

I agree, a 10 foot wide log might not sell on E-BAY, though it certainly would generate many links of interest. I doubt the guy with the F-16 for a few million sold it on E-BAY, though anyone really interested would have called him up. Everyone all over the world saw it.

Fla._Deadheader · « **Reply #5 on:** June 29, 2004, 01:35:50 pm »

Been looking on the web, off and on, all day, for "lumbermens"

Only find marketing agencys for personnel, insurance companies and 2 retail outlets. Found a co-op type deal in Texas-Louisiana. Found a 4 Store Building Material Outlet in the Pacific Northwest. Got any more info on Lumbermens???

Guess I don't get it??? WHERE would someone put an ad on the web???

I have been checking Ebay for over 2 years. There are hardly ever any listings for Cypress. I listed Pecky boards and Solid Table slabs and NO bids, let alone reaching a reserve.

I have a listing on Woodweb. I have a listing on Agri-Seek. I have a listing on Wood-Planet. Stick-Trade has gone nuts with a membership of $295.00. I WAS a member of that for over a year. On-line Classifieds for wood are not plentiful, or, I'm too stoopid to locate them

Anyone need something built??? THAT I can do

Ron Wenrich · « **Reply #6 on:** June 29, 2004, 03:33:06 pm »

You're pretty much in a specialty market. Most mills can't handle that size of log. So, that will limit the number of buyers. Some of those logs sound to big for swingers.

Advertising the logs might be OK, but you're going to have to dig for another buyer. Have you ever tried the Southern Cypress Mfg Assn? I saw it listed on a search, thought maybe they should be people you should be talking to. They should know who uses that type of log.

Might want to try your sawmill division over at your state forestry dept.

ARKANSAWYER · « **Reply #7 on:** June 29, 2004, 08:54:02 pm »

www.lumbermenonline.com

sawhead · « **Reply #8 on:** June 29, 2004, 09:58:47 pm »

Here is another place you could try http://www.amlumber.com/

Fla._Deadheader · « **Reply #9 on:** June 30, 2004, 04:41:47 am »

2 excellent links. Thanks Guys.

Hokiemill · « **Reply #10 on:** June 30, 2004, 06:21:14 am »

Hey F_DH, how about some pictures of these monster logs!

iain · « **Reply #11 on:** June 30, 2004, 06:43:49 am »

whats the timber?

Tillaway · « **Reply #12 on:** June 30, 2004, 08:15:41 am »

Export it to Japan, for something like that they may be interested. Most of the export companies operate out of Longview, Washington. Its been a while since I have had any doings with export logs so I sam trying to remember names. Try searching for exporters around Washington and Oregon, there are some smaller outfits that would be interested. Also check around Coos Bay, Oregon. There is a Port Orford Cedar buyer there and Menasha Corp as well they both export. Rayonier does as well and they have operations in Oregon and Washington.

Fla._Deadheader · « **Reply #13 on:** June 30, 2004, 08:41:06 am »

As usual, we haven't seen the logs, YET. The guy that HAS seen them, is out of town. I tried to contact him.

The logs are Heart Cypress. I do have pics from the Florida Archives showing logs that size, so, I KNOW they are out there. I will post pics as soon as I can find the log(s).

Till, I was thinking about the export thing. Thanks for bringing that up.

Tom · « **Reply #14 on:** June 30, 2004, 10:20:12 am »

Japan would be convenient, Deadheader. The logs are probably lost on the bottom somewhere in the Pacific anyway.

Fla._Deadheader · « **Reply #15 on:** June 30, 2004, 11:33:13 am »

Does that mean we might to salvage them more than once

I heard about some gigantical Redwoods that are in the Pacific, that need to be salvaged.

Tom · « **Reply #16 on:** June 30, 2004, 11:53:04 am »

Yeah! You'll probably find them in the same place. The other logs were used to float the Red Wood and the whole Kit 'n Kaboodle sank. Rumor has it that there is so much money to be made off of this deal that even politicians from North Carolina are vacating their jobs to search for the logs.

Fla._Deadheader · « **Reply #17 on:** June 30, 2004, 01:23:33 pm »

In that case, maybe we should mount some torpedo tubes underneath the beams and go "help" those Politicians.

ARKANSAWYER · « **Reply #18 on:** July 01, 2004, 06:42:40 am »

Harold,
There is a guy looking for spare logs who will saw up your big sticks free if you can get them up to NY or Ohio!
ARKANSAWYER

Fla._Deadheader · « **Reply #19 on:** July 01, 2004, 09:56:40 am »

Arky, I saw that post. I been waitin for the DanGster to get back on here, and see if he would fly them logs up there. He's a chopper pilot, DonTcha know

I hope he has that chopper running soon. I believe that's why he hasn't posted lately.

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