Author Topic: Calling Dr.Roof (Read 2191 times)

Jeff · « **on:** May 01, 2004, 07:06:53 pm »

, or any one else that may know. While Tammy and I were out of town the last few days we saw a couple houses that had shingles that we decided we like and that we want to put on our house. Can anybody identify the manufacture, style or name/color of this shingle?

http://www.forestryforum.com/roof1.jpg

and

http://www.forestryforum.com/roof2.jpg

J_T · « **Reply #1 on:** May 01, 2004, 07:20:36 pm »

Ever notice Dr's and cops are the same never around when you want them to be

Chet · « **Reply #2 on:** May 01, 2004, 07:20:45 pm »

They look like architectural shingles to me.

Jeff · « **Reply #3 on:** May 01, 2004, 07:22:40 pm »

I didnt think they were Chet. Look at the water lines. I think they are colored with shadows and stuff to just look like the architectural shingles. I didnt think architectural shingles had the water lines like 3 tab

Rocky_J · « **Reply #4 on:** May 01, 2004, 07:33:20 pm »

I agree, they look like Architectural shingles. I just got done helping a neighbor shingle his roof about 2 months ago with architectural shingles. He got a deal on leftover stock and they were cheaper than standard shingles. They had the water channels like the ones in your picture, Jeff. The additional layer was mostly for looks and didn't really add to roof protection from what I could see. They were certainly harder to trim!

Furby · « **Reply #5 on:** May 01, 2004, 07:37:07 pm »

Those are architectural shingles. See the difference in tab sizes?

Chet · « **Reply #6 on:** May 01, 2004, 07:38:52 pm »

Jeff check this site. They have some pretty good close up shots. http://www.iko.com/products/residential/residential.asp?region_id=2&TASK=Products

Jeff · « **Reply #7 on:** May 01, 2004, 07:40:13 pm »

look closer...

Tom · « **Reply #8 on:** May 01, 2004, 07:44:24 pm »

What is an "architectural" shingle?

Jeff · « **Reply #9 on:** May 01, 2004, 07:50:04 pm »

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Jeff check this site. They have some pretty good close up shots. http://www.iko.com/products/residential/residential.asp?region_id=2&TASK=Products

Went clear through it Chet. Looks real simlar but no ceeger.

Danny_S · « **Reply #10 on:** May 01, 2004, 08:39:51 pm »

This is close I think,,,

http://www.certainteed.com/CertainTeed/Undefined/Roofing/PhotoGallery/RPGPhotoGalleryPatriotAR.htm

Or the prariewood in this one...

http://www.certainteed.com/CertainTeed/Undefined/Roofing/PhotoGallery/RPGPhotoGalleryNew+HorizonShangle.htm

Does the winner get a FF Hat?

Tom · « **Reply #11 on:** May 01, 2004, 09:02:35 pm »

What is an architactural shingle?

Kevin · « **Reply #12 on:** May 01, 2004, 09:05:14 pm »

Hey, there's an echo in here!

Jeff · « **Reply #13 on:** May 01, 2004, 09:09:53 pm »

Tom,
http://www.roofweb.com/glossary_a.html

Jeff · « **Reply #14 on:** May 01, 2004, 09:11:45 pm »

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Does the winner get a FF Hat?

mebbe

If you pay the shipping?

I think that Or the prariewood may be the ticket. Sure looks right.

Jeff · « **Reply #15 on:** May 01, 2004, 09:13:12 pm »

Looked closer. Its too brown.

Danny_S · « **Reply #16 on:** May 01, 2004, 09:17:05 pm »

Yer too DanG fussy!!

Maybe the one you seen is faded!

Ize' will pay de shippin.

Haytrader · « **Reply #17 on:** May 01, 2004, 09:18:45 pm »

Out here in the flat we call um Heritage.
That is probly a brand name.
Very popular and heavier than the old 3 tab.

Tom · « **Reply #18 on:** May 01, 2004, 09:23:10 pm »

Architectural Shingle: Shingle that provides a dimensional appearance. See also Dimensional Shingle or Laminated Shingle

Dimensional Shingle: A shingle that is textured, or laminated to produce a three-dimensional effect. Also known as Laminated or Architectural Shingles.

Laminated Shingles: See "Dimensional Shingles" or "Architectural Shingles".

:-/ :-/ :-/

Jeff · « **Reply #19 on:** May 01, 2004, 09:23:42 pm »

I'n not fussy. I only ask for one little thing. Perfection.

Danny_S · « **Reply #20 on:** May 01, 2004, 09:31:46 pm »

Yoose dont ask fer much...

They make alot-a nice stuff on that site......

ScottAR · « **Reply #21 on:** May 01, 2004, 11:22:57 pm »

Tom, Architectural shingles are made different than a standard 3 tab. They vary the tab width and glue on extra tabs with shadow lines around em. They want it to look like either wood shingles or slate depending on color.

Owens Corning are the ones I'm familar with. They are available in 30yr., 40yr., and 50yr. ratings. To make the factory warranty good one has to get the special ridge shingles.
The 30yrs figure just like 3tabs but the 40s and 50s figure at 4 bundles and 5 bundles a square as they are thicker and heavier shingles.

The 30yrs are goin for about $40 a square in the store at the moment.

etat · « **Reply #22 on:** May 02, 2004, 01:13:19 am »

Probably these. http://hostingprod.com/@awhobor.com/roofing_owenscorning_prominence-ar.htm

I'm thinking Serria Blend, but you can't always trust pictures.

Sorry I'm running late. I havn't ever put these on but a few years ago I did put a similar, not owens corning, shingle on a house at oxford. I don't know if Owens Corning are laminated or not, but the ones I put on at Oxford were a 'laminated three tab shingle', I believe either a 40 or 50 year shingle.

I usually recommend 30 year shingle as I absolutely believe a shingle won't last longer than that. The price really jumps from 30 to 40 year, and thought 40 are thicker, the coatings are usually the same and will both weather off equally. Properly applied and nailed on the nail lines as required, and with the correct number of fasteners either will stay on the house about the same. So if they did last over 30 years, well they'd look awful. Truthfully, usually before they wear out you'll catch a hail storm and get some insurance help on replacement.

Also a laminated shingle should be applied on a 45 up the roof, not a straight 6 inch offset like three tab.

The biggest problem with shingles blowing off, not the proper number of fasteners, or nailing above the nail line. Shingles applied on a 45 are more stable in high wind than run in a 6 inch offset up the roof. Also it is possible, but more difficult to install three tab shingles on a 45 AND keep the rain keyways straight up and down. You just have to do more measuring and pop more lines. It doesn't take many lines to keep a regular arcitect shingle straight, and running on a 45. Also there is much less waste with a regular architect shingle.

In my experience, you put on a Certainteed, a GAF, a Tamco, and a Owens Corning shingle roof on houses side by side, the Owens Corning will be the first one to start loseing tabs in high wind. This would be if you used all three tab shingles. I personally believe their glue is defective and prone tto come loose in extreme temperature change situations, and high winds. Also, the plant that produces the Owens Corning three tabs that wind up around here has a problem with their shingles being shaded, and it WILL show up on the house. I refuse to buy them for my customers for this reason. Other areas, or shingles coming from other Owens Corning Plants may be different.

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J_T, as credit manager of our company CFI, do you think you could do some billing for me!!!

shopteacher · « **Reply #23 on:** May 02, 2004, 05:38:05 am »

I put GAF timberline ultra on my barn, they's got a lifetime warranty. Problem is they didn't tell me who's lifetime.

They look similar to the one you picture Jeff, but don't think it's the same manufacture.
http://www.gaf.com/General/GAFIntro_noflash.asp

Minnesota_boy · « **Reply #24 on:** May 02, 2004, 05:51:35 am »

Some interesting info on shingles here. I'm sure glad I don't live in a place that has temperature extremes. I've never seen it get below -57 or above +105 here, so I've gotten by pretty well for the past 23 years with my cheap 20 year shingles. They're still all on the house after being put on by a couple of amateurs (me and my uncle).

Tom · « **Reply #25 on:** May 02, 2004, 08:30:00 am »

That helped some. Thanks. I guess that all shingles are asphalt or glass if they aren't natural. Glass had big sales here until it was found that they didn't take the heat like asphalt. The most popular long term shingle in south florida is tile. I'd hate to be the roofer that put that stuff up.

The hardest part of roofing, I've found, is the disposal of the old roof. Nobody wants that stuff. It's almost worth hiring the roof to be installed just to not worry about it.

I was going to put the next roof on my house but I think I'm thinking with a 30 year-old brain in a 62 year old body. Who am I kidding. I trip and fall walking across the front yard.

Stan · « **Reply #26 on:** May 02, 2004, 10:29:35 am »

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I was going to put the next roof on my house but I think I'm thinking with a 30 year-old brain in a 62 year old body. Who am I kidding. I trip and fall walking across the front yard.

Good thinkin' Tom, I did it at 55 and it really hurt.

J_T · « **Reply #27 on:** May 02, 2004, 11:18:37 am »

Why would I want a 30 year roof ???I don't even buy green bannay's

Dr Roof billing or collecting

Furby · « **Reply #28 on:** May 03, 2004, 01:11:46 pm »

Yeah, I thought I was collecting

Hey Jeff, stupid ? but if you stopped to take pics, why didn't you knock on the door and ask?

Jeff · « **Reply #29 on:** May 03, 2004, 01:18:22 pm »

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Yeah, I thought I was collecting

Hey Jeff, stupid ? but if you stopped to take pics, why didn't you knock on the door and ask?

Some people appreciate their privacy and I try to respect that. It there was someone outside I might have.

Furby · « **Reply #30 on:** May 03, 2004, 01:43:24 pm »

I respect you for that Jeff, but where did the pics come from

If it was a Sunday, I can understand. Any other day of the week I would have just asked. A lot of people do like to have there home admired and are more then willing to talk about them, even to a stranger.
But I do see where you were coming from.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #31 on:** May 03, 2004, 02:45:19 pm »

hmmm I'm with Danny on this one

Have a looksie at the slate blend shingle, click on the house picie to the left of the pattern.

http://www.certainteed.com/CertainTeed/Homeowner/Homeowner/Roofing/PhotoGallery/RPGPhotoGalleryWoodscapeSeries.htm

I think, I think....I got it!!

Painted Desert

http://www.certainteed.com/CertainTeed/Homeowner/Homeowner/Roofing/PhotoGallery/PhotoGalleryLandmark%E2%84%A2+Series.htm

etat · « **Reply #32 on:** May 03, 2004, 03:19:17 pm »

I'm certain it's not a Certainteed

. They don't make a three tab shingle like that, I'm certain of that too.

Each manufacturer calls it's colors different names, even though they may be similar. Also, if the shingles come from a different plant, there may be a noticible difference in the coloring, even though it may be called the same color.

For example, Certainteed moire black, and GAFcharcoal black, and Owens Corning onyx black are the exact same color, maybe shaded just a bit from each other. From one house to the next they will look the same.

About every 4 to 5 years, especially on the odd colors shingle manufacturers will change the colors a bit, and call them the same name. I usually keep a few bundles of older shingles laying around for repair work, or take a shingle or shingles off of the back of the house and put on the front if the repair is on the front.

Some shingle manufacturers will call a 40 year shingle and a 20 year three tab shingle different color names, even though they are basically the same color.

Especially on larger jobs I usually bring samples of whole shingles because they may be slightly different from the color on the small sample charts. Some homeowners won't mind, but some you better show em exactly what they're getting.

It's a gamble at best trying to match odd colors shingles, such as these, from pictures.

Furby, I thing you and J_T BOTH oughta collect!!!!!

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #33 on:** May 03, 2004, 03:34:07 pm »

I'm still waiting for the judges final decision

Looks purdy darn close to me

Jeff · « **Reply #34 on:** May 03, 2004, 03:39:10 pm »

Nope. Not there. Believe me, I am durn good in matching comparisons. In my Artsy fartsy days had to do a lot of color mixing and matching for paintings and got a pretty good eye. No match yet.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #35 on:** May 03, 2004, 03:54:26 pm »

hmmm

Seems to be more slate grey and brick red in your pictures I guess, Jeff. Helps also to see the real thing with the naked eye instead of a blury pic.hahahaha

Well, if ya can't find the brand then give Certainteed a call

etat · « **Reply #36 on:** May 03, 2004, 04:47:24 pm »

Certainteed is my absolutely favorite brand.

Around here quality and price they're hard to beat.

Jeff · « **Reply #37 on:** May 06, 2004, 02:50:22 pm »

Update. NO LUCK. We "settled" on a couple choices you guys found. Took the them up to the lumber company, they checked them out and was told by the distributer that none of our choices were not available in this area. :-/

I know they got to be somewhere. We have found a few more houses with them on. We have resorted to knocking on doors and it seems no one lives in any of the houses that have these shingles. At least not during the week. They are apparently weekend houses.

Tom · « **Reply #38 on:** May 06, 2004, 02:53:25 pm »

Jeff,
Is it the kind of thing that shopping on the internet would make fruitful? If you are going to do the work yourself, buy them from the company that makes them. Or........ buy them from a dealer 500 miles away.

Jeff · « **Reply #39 on:** May 06, 2004, 02:58:34 pm »

Been tryng the internet. I am finding they only sell certain shingles in certain zones.

Tom · « **Reply #40 on:** May 06, 2004, 03:04:11 pm »

oh :-/ Well ain't that the pits.

Chet · « **Reply #41 on:** May 06, 2004, 03:14:51 pm »

Well that settles it. Yur going ta have ta move da house to a different zone.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #42 on:** May 06, 2004, 03:17:48 pm »

Jeff:

Isn't that a pain in the whazoo?

Jeff · « **Reply #43 on:** May 06, 2004, 03:33:10 pm »

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Well that settles it. Yur going ta have ta move da house to a different zone.

Just might. Very real chance that Tammy is going to lose her job. Harrison board of education is strongly considering sellin out and trading in our school bus drivers in favor of privatized transportation. The company wont even be using school buses or trained drivers. She is at a union meeting now.

Tom · « **Reply #44 on:** May 06, 2004, 05:23:48 pm »

That happened here year before last. Our local school bus companies were, all of a sudden, out of work and holding lots of dollars of bus inventory and drivers with no jobs. It never has seemed to bother the school board though.

Now our Tax dollars are going up north somewhere.

This is what I have against Government Privatizing. Privatization drains the local economy.

It also puts the control of the community in the hands of people who have no vested interest. An example is the latest food stamp SNAFU. The Help-line is answered in India. Now, like the food stamp program or not, what in the deuce do the Indians have to do with telling our citizens what to do?

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Author Topic: Calling Dr.Roof (Read 2191 times)