Slang

[shopteacher]

Today I was changing spark plugs on my truck. Ever try changing plugs on them things now days. I wound up taking the passenger wheel off to get to that side. Seems the engine compartment got smaller to go along with the engine. Anyway, I was  listening to a country station when a commercial comes on about a contest they had won and a girl shouts" Holy Crap" to being the winner.
  My question is this; why is it acceptable to say crap vs. the four letter s word?  Why is screw, bang or a dozen other words OK to substitute for the F word?  Doesn't knowing the meaning of the substitute make it as wrong as the original word? And what about the N word? I really hate that term "the N word". If I say he called him a "N word" you know what I'm referring to, so isn't it virtually the same?  If I came up to you and actually said " I think your a N word" would that be as bad as using the actual term?
 I reckon them two philosophers CK and Duane will be able to set me straight as to the right or wrong of it.
Just kind of puzzles me, that's all.

[J_T]

Yea that Dr Roof and Duane don"t talk over your head   Even I can understand them. Think some one called us three The Soda Pop Gang

[etat]

   That's us!!!!

[old3dogg]

Teach.
I think it is refered to as being "political correct".
Limp wristed liberals can be blamed for this!
You know its the same kind of folks that say we dont need saw mills because we can buy lumber at the lowes or we dont need farmers cause we can buy milk and eggs at the 7eleven.
They just dont get it.

[Tom]

I have a lot more respect for someone who is making an effort to use correct grammar than someone who depends on "low-brow" slang.  I understand that even profanity may have a place in conversation to make an emphasis on something by using shock values.  What divides the couth from the uncouth is the ability to acknowledge the company one is in when spouting off-color remarks and gutter language. It's a smart person who can find words that don't offend.   I'm not talking about the offense of a straight-laced stiff neck who uses their superior attitude to place their pompous stature above their company.  People like that are as rude on one end of the spectrum as the proverbial drunken sailor.is on the other.  I'm talking about the fellow who hasn't realized the difference in public and private conversation.

I find it personally embarrassing to be in the company of someone who curses on the street, on the sidewalk, in a resturant or store or even on forums llike this.  It's not good enough to know who your audience is when there are others who can here what you say.  Those others can be young school kids, preachers, teachers or just your everyday citizen who is not wanting to be associated with profanity.  Older adults should know better.  The younger generation that thinks it is smart to shock the public with their verbal abuse only decry the adults in their life who taught them no better.

Thanks to my parents, I can speak with a vocabulary that doesn't offend.  I make an effort to keep my language acceptable so as not to discolor their good reputations.

Unfortunately, many miss this point or just don't care.

[shopteacher]

I guess what really disturbs me is the amount of profanity that I hear everyday in the halls at school. It has become so much of the younger generations language they don't even realize what they've said. When I call them on it they look at me puzzled or the infamous "What".  As I was working on the truck today and running those thoughts through my mind I just don't understand where we're headed anymore.

[Tom]

Keep calling them on it.  Somebody should.

It might even be that having them as a captured audience in your classroom would give you the opportunity to express how important it is in the "real" world to be able to speak correctly.  It's also a trait that should be learned if they intend on spending any time in public in their future life.  They will be measured by their speech, their dress, their personal hygiene their personality and their respect for age and authority.  They may not like hearing it, but that's how it is.

[Jeff]

Have you tried to listen to their music? Disturbing.

[CHARLIE]

Jeff, is that what they call that?  Music?  I've always wondered what it was.  Now I know. It's different than what I know as music.  That stuff not only doesn't have a tune but the lyrics are extremely offensive.

[old3dogg]

I just have to ask.
What did your parents think about "your music".
These days you just have to relate.Get in their heads.Listen to what they think is cool.
You just cant slap them up for getting out of line anymore.Those days are gone.
Listen,relate,talk,understand,and TEACH.
Most kids these days just want to "belong".
Help them do that.
I think that you will find that these kids today really arent as bad as you think they are.

[Tom]

Old3dogg
I judge people, the young ones too, as I suggested in the post above: "They will be measured by their speech, their dress, their personal hygiene their personality and their respect for age and authority.  They may not like hearing it, but that's how it is."

It's common knowledge that one generation doesn't approve of all the following generations do. This is the first generation that I've been associated with that fails on most of the criteria that I use to determine an individual that I would associate with. I soon find that I don't associate with them.

I have worked with young men and women for many years and until the 1980's found that I could find some good in most of them.  Those since have been more interested in tearing up personal property, standing in the middle of the streets daring drivers to ask them to move, using some of the most vile and profane language in public that I've ever heard anywhere, stand nose to nose in a shouting match with police officers who are trying to get them to go home after midnight, rapping or "singing" songs that blatantly call for murder, torture, sexual misconduct, overthrow of the government and subjects so vile I refuse to listen. Those who sell the trash should be imprisoned for contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Using the terms relative to the older generation being wrong and coddling the younger generation is futile and wrong. What the younger society today is doing is "wrong" no matter how you cut it.

How we developed into such a lily-livered society, pandering our youth and being afraid to parent is beyond me. If you watch the news and compare this society to those of the past, you will find that we are already reaping the whirlwind.

[firtol88]

Most of the problems referred to in this thread can be attributed to the broad scale promotion of a particular ethnically based culture. The comical part is that this culture happens to be almost entirely void of any redeeming qualities. As a country we have decided to cater to the lowest common denominator. Since this group as a whole seems incapable of raising itself to the level of it's peers, in the name of inclusion and equality it's shortfalls had to become normalized. In normalizing these lower standards we have done a disservice to society as a whole...  

Thank a Liberal. Thank yourself...

[old3dogg]

Tom.
I feel that not all of todays kids are as bad as you say.
Every generation has a few bad apples.
"Cant see the forest because all the trees are in the way"
Maybe Im just defending my 2 kids.Because to me ,they are GREAT kids.

[shopteacher]

I just want to say I do have a good number of kids who don't fall into the category that has been portrayed in this thread. They are average go to the movie, go to the dance, do well or OK in their studies, etc.
 However there seems to be a growing number of teenager that fall into the category Tom has described and like Tom I tend to judge by the same standards he has outlined.
  Watching the news you see teens doing things like drive by shooting, murdering their parents, bashing somebody for sheer pleasure, destruction of property just because it's there.
   Parents can't parent anymore, the kids have rights, touch your kid and they'll call CYS, sue you, or murder you.  The schools are much the same, powerless to govern, afraid to provoke parental or public scrutiny.
   Nuff said.

[Norm]

I mentioned we used to allow our sons to use the basement rec room to have dozens of friends over for parties on weekends. You couldn't have asked for a nicer group of young folks, we never had any problems...period. Ok one food fight but EZ does the same at his dinner table.

To equate them all based on the actions of a very few is not right. My sons and most of their friends are hard working honest young men and women. Please don't pre-judge them all by the actions of a few.

[EZ]

As a Christian, we are not supposed to say any word that would lesson a smile. We are suppose to have a smile on our face at all times, hard to do at times tho, cause we are only human. Like if I hit my finger with a hammer I'm going to say, o-my, well that hurt a little, with a smile on my face.

When the girls and son-in-laws come over and they are having problem with something or someone and they are telling us about their problem. Sometimes they get a little carried away and start to cuss. If they get to carried away with the cuss words, I stop them dead in their tracks.
EZ

[Patty]

I gotta agree with Norm (now there's a first!) and old 3 dog on this one I think.
Yea there are the bad kids that you see on tv, tv isn't gonna show the good kids, they don't get the attention the bad kids get. The majority of the kids I see and have contact with are no different that you and I were at that age. My folks hated Alice Cooper and the drugs and all that that my generation stood for...we were all gonna go to hell in a hand basket...but for the most part we all sobered up, dried out, got jobs and lived pretty normal lives. This generation will do the same. Those parents who won't raise their kids are no different than the parents of the last generation who wouldn't raise their kids. A good friend of ours used to have to go get his dad from the bars every night 'cause he was too drunk to drive home. Same deal, different generation.
If you treat any kid like you want to be treated, with respect and with dignity, for the most part you will be treated with the same respect right back.
Don't be so hard on these kids, if you are so worried, then get out there and try to change it. Ok my 2 cents is spent.

[Stan]

That there hip-hop or rap don't offend me, I can't figure out what the words are!  

[old3dogg]

Stan.
I dont think there are words.just a bunch of noise.

[Stan]

My brother says the words are in some African language called Xosha where clicks and pops have certain meanings. Since his youngest is a teenager, I 'spect he knows mor'n me.

[shopteacher]

It's the intonation Stan, the intonation. I know something evil and vial is being transmitted. I just know it.

[Den Socling]

I don't think that much has changed except for news coverage. You see on TV things that you would never have been aware of 40 years ago. There's a lot of good people and a few bad in every generation. The other day, I saw a guy run a stop sign and a girl blew her horn at him. He made an obscene gesture and yelled profanities at her. She looked like she was in her teens and he was in his thirties. Made me in my fifties want to grab the jerk by the neck and ...oh yeah ... which is the bad generation?

[Tom]

http://www.singingman.us/DYR.htm

[Den Socling]

OK things do change.  

[Den Socling]

now has that been for the better or worse?  

[inspectorwoody]

Thanks to those who stuck up for us younger people who are hard working etc.

I'll have to admitt I listen to "that" music but I also listen to country, bluegrass, oldies etc. I love music and it primarly depends on my mood.

I think a major problem with the youth of today is that they don't have the family strucure some of you elders had. Did I say that right...Elders?? Is that proper?   I didn't and I wish I did have. I wish I did have some better vaules and didn't have to deal with some of the stuff I have to deal with everyday but no matter what happens the only person that can change anything is yourself and if you aren't willing to change or help yourself nobody else around you is going to change or help. If your a negitive person...your going to hang around negitive people etc.

I find myself falling into these "traps" sometimes and it takes a bit for you to realize what you are doing and to realize your better than that.

Doctors have a name for this....Its called depression. Society has a name for it too....Its called being crazy and that what makes it hard because those of us young folks with this problem or other problems are sterotyped. Society  would rather call us names and say we are worthless than to be an "adult" and try to show us the right way. Sometimes the reason why young people do the things they do is because it is a cry for help and because of society not wanting to answer that cry we are burying thousands of young people becaus of suicide, drug overdoses etc.

We all have faults etc. and some are worse than others but instead of wasting time sterotyping etc. spend that time helping someone in need. It may not always turn out the way it should and sometimes you will feel like your wasting your time but at least you can say you tried.

Don't mean to ruffle any feathers but I think we can make a good thing out of a bad start...

Gadget

[redpowerd]

"judge not lest ye be judged"
they judge themselves, dont they?

teach, cant you write them up for the language?
when i was in school, we even had to watch it in the locker room. 'barn mouth' they called it. spose that says alot for anyone been in a barn

[Tillaway]

Sometimes the young folks worry me, but then I probably did worry some older folks when I was young.  

We have some real good young people around, what my daughter thinks amazes me.  You would not have expected it and she does listen to that kind of music (of course I will subject her to Jethro Tull).

Last week I was at the local pizza place and the Navy recruiters were there a fine crop of potential recruites.  No body piercing, tatooes and normal colored hair.  I could tell by looking that at least two knew thier way around the woods.  I would suspect that there was at least one from one the local dairys.  These folks had to only be 17 or so.  These were good old country kids.  

[firtol88]

I think a major problem with the youth of today is that ...

In keeping with my previous statements, we have normalized underachievement and created excuses for any shortfalls...

[Buzz-sawyer]

Everytime I read this thread, or hear folks talk about , "These crazy kids, Today!".....
I remember this quote suppossedly from before the birth of Christ....weather it is or not it makes a great point in my mind , how parents ALWAYS view thier kids as the most crazed and wild generation , bound to never be understood, and surely the destruction of society as we know it!!!!
Here is the quote


   "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners,contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and  love chatter in place of exercise.  Children now are tyrants, not the servants of their households.  They no longer rise  when eleders enter the room.  They contradict their parents,chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Attributed to SOCRATES by Plato

[firtol88]

I'm not just talking about kids, may adults take advantage of the same excuses.

[etat]

I'm absolutely sure, when the Beatles hit the states with their long hair, and Elvis started shakin his hips, and Rock and Roll started replacing Hank, and Jimmy, and Patsy, parents thought the same way. Woodstock, hippies, and communes.  Heck, I understand even a few of our respect members belonged to that generation.  I'm sure parents, and the establishment thought it'd be the end.  There was some bad drugs then too, LSD, HERION, WEED, COCAINE,ACID.  I'm for one thankful I managed to pass the worst of them by.  Whiskey, beer, moonshine, wine,that's been around for ages.

Well, things worked out that generation, and some of us come to our senses.  And so the cycle continues.  

Some of these kids will come to their senses, some of em wont.  Bout the best we can hope for is teach our children the best we can, and even then a bunch of em will rebel.  We have to continure to influence as many as we can, in the hopes that they too will finally make fine upstanding citizens.

That being said, I hate RAP, kids with tattoos and rings and studs, their music, and a whole bunch of that stuff.  

No telling what hidden words and phrases you'd find if you played them Rap songs backwards!!!

[Norm]

ck...

"I buried Paul"      

[redpowerd]

the problem with rap is that stuff is derrogitory right to your face

[EZ]

Well here I am almost 49 and never took any hard drugs did alot of drinkin, never got any tatoos or anything else. I use to hate all the piercing and tatoos on kids. Now that I have a couple of son-in-laws this way with all the marking on them and I find out that there pretty good kids after all. I guess like the old saying goes, one should'nt judge another by his looks.
EZ

[inspectorwoody]

I have a tattoo....does that make me any less of a person?Granted you can not see it but still. Had my tounge pierced too at one time until I felt it wasn't professional.

Our young sawyer at our mill in Wisconsin has his lip pierced...Does that make him any less of a sawyer?

Its not about what you think someone else should look like or enjoy...its just about you and what you enjoy etc. You may be missing out on getting to know some very creative and neat individuals if you shy away because of a ring in their nose or something....

Sometimes you have to look past all that. My dad wasn't impressed with my tounge but did he love me any less...nope because he knew just because i went and did something crazy it wasn't going to change who I was.

[Ron Wenrich]

Body disfigurement is something that is beyond me.  I never could understand why, unless you're trying to impress someone else.  But, that's a generational difference.

Personally, I don't care what you look like, what you listen too, or how you dress.  As long as you're a responsible citizen.  

That's the basics behind what I taught my kids.  First and foremost, you're a guest wherever you go (Respect).  Act like one.  Second, if someone needs help, help them (Charity).  Last, when you do something, make sure you would be willing to sign your name to it (Pride and responsibility).

[etat]

What Ron Said!

Tom, I forgot to thank ya for that link!!!!!!

I STILL like the Stattler Bros!  

And believe it or not, I did hear a Rap song one time that I didn't mind too bad, just can't remember what it was.  A guy working for me talked me into listening to it, I do know it wasn't nuthin nasty in it.

Might a not a been right but I threatend to fire one of my employees if he got a tounge ring.  This was several years ago. I told him it just didn't fit in with my line of work out in the public. He does have a few tatoo's that I hafta look over.  But after all, he's one a my best friends.  Guess everybody just can't be as perfect as me!!!!

[Haytrader]

Ck,

I may be.......    

I had a wife onced that got a tatoo......got rid of her
Course the tatoo wudn't the only reason....

[Tom]

I'll bet she took it with her.

I made comments about judging people on a page back. It has nothing to do with whether I think the individual is a lessor person.  I judge based on who I want to associate with or who I want working in my company.  I (you) are judged by the company you keep.  Lots of liberal "activist" types will argue that it doesn't matter and it might not be relative to the person with the tattoo.  It does matter to the person you associate with.  If that person owns the company you would like to work for and he feels that the "image" you portray is not one that he wants his company to be recognized by, then you don't get a job.  There are a lot of things in this life that we find aren't all about "us".

[Stan]

Well I have 1 1/2 tatoos, one of them is faded so badly you can only see half of it.
I've had a number of body piercings, all of which have healed over nicely, thank you very much.  
One fine day, a young chimp stood on his hind legs and waddled across the clearing where his pack was lounging. without touching down with his front legs.  His father loudly lamented "What is this younger generation coming too".

[J_T]

Aman Tom My son said he wanted a ear ring I said ok but first you need your ship and jolley rodger second be sure it is stocked with food. Well he got the flag still no ear ring or ship Parents can control a lot till they get out on their own.Always told him you pay all the bills you can do it your way.

[Ron Wenrich]

You can only make a first impression one time.  It ought to be good.  Although I don't care what you look like, etc; your first impression may help or hurt you.

I remember hearing about a guy who went for a job interview.  This was back when not tying your shoes was the style.  He had impeccable credentials, but the boss didn't hire him.  When asked why he said he wouldn't hire anyone who didn't know how to tie his shoes.

Same can be said about some of those piercings.  And what's the deal with a tattoo on the neck?  

I've been around a lot of bikers.  They have tons of tattoos and piercings.  They were doing it before it was cool.  They party hard.  But, when it comes to working, some of the work pretty hard.  And when they have a charity drive, they usually get lots of money (I just assume its gotten legal).

[Norm]

I like Ron's quote for teaching your kids. I always tried to tell my sons the same.

Dustin I don't like you any less because of your pierced tounge but YIKES!!... didn't that hurt. Me, I like a simple diamond stud earring but am too much of a coward to let someone put holes in me needlessly.

[Stan]

Can you imagine how difficult it is to heal an infected tounge? My oldest grandson knows.  

[shopteacher]

I can tolerate the piercing and some of the girls have some nice tattoo right above their plumber's crack, even the all black clothes and chains ain't to bad,  but the attitude and lack of respect for others and other's property I can't tolerate.

[inspectorwoody]

Norm, It didn't hurt. More pressure than pain! Like I said earlier, I removed it a while back because I didn't feel it was professional. I did think about if I ever went to an interview with it in I wouldn't get hired unless it was at the local burger joint.

Girls with tattoos above the plumber's crack    

[Den Socling]

Me too! Girls with tattoos above their plumbers crack? What kind of talk is that?  

[old3dogg]

My son wanted to get his ear pierced when he was 12.
I said not a problem.I get to do the piercing!
I have one of those one hole paper punchers.
Now he is 16 and wants a tatoo.
Does it ever end?
RUSH ON!

[Jeff]

My son wanted to get his ear pierced when he was 12.
I said not a problem.I get to do the piercing!
I have one of those one hole paper punchers.
Now he is 16 and wants a tatoo.
Does it ever end?
RUSH ON!

Maybe this?  
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=24586&item=4128819037&rd=1

[old3dogg]

That would be mean!
Only because it isnt a PSU branding iron

[etat]

One of my employees told me he heard the big thing in prison is getting branded instead of tatoo's now. We had a bit of a conversation about it. .  When we got back to my house I picked up some scrap two by fours and asked him to build me a fire. I told the wife to go get me a coat hanger.  He KNOWS me, couldn't get him to build the fire .  

DanG, I sure did want to put a few brands on em!!!!  

[shopteacher]

Girls with tattoos above their plumbers crack? What kind of talk is that?

If I had put in the way the kids would have said it, now that would be vulgar.  Now that warm weather is here those tattoos have sprung up like dandelions.  Had a nice looking girl last year who liked to sit on the work bench injun style. I had to go up to her and ask if she came from a family of plumbers. She got the message and turned a bright red. I think she jerked on them britches everyday till the end of the year.

[Frickman]

Shopteacher,
I got a girl here who wouldn't be embarassed. Heck, she'd be happy you noticed. She helps us some on the farm over summer, mostly selling sweet corn. Great girl, number one in her class in high school, doesn't want to wear clothes. I told her she doesn't need to run around half naked to attract boys, she's a DanG good looking girl as it is. She reads alot of fashion magazines and they have her convinced to dress like a lady of the night.

In one of Bill O'Reilly's books he tells about his time teaching high school down in Florida. They were having a problem with innappropiate dress at school activities, football games, etc. He announced in his class one day that kids who dressed like that are " sexually immature." Word got around school and soon the kids were dressing decent again.

[Stan]

That would be mean!
Only because it isnt a PSU branding iron

At least it wasn't an Ohio State iron which would be the unkindest brand of all.  

[old3dogg]

I was gonna say Ohio State.
Just to pick on Den a little.

[Linda]

First, I want to say, I have 4 kids 25 years old and younger.  Three of my children are more responsible than I was at their age, one is less.  Had I been in this generation, I might have been worse than him.  I love them all unconditionally.  I always find something to be proud of them for.  That said, I would like to voice my views.

May 1st, 2004, 11:23pm Tom wrote:

Those since have been more interested in tearing up personal property, standing in the middle of the streets daring drivers to ask them to move, using some of the most vile and profane language in public that I've ever heard anywhere, stand nose to nose in a shouting match with police officers who are trying to get them to go home after midnight, rapping or "singing" songs that blatantly call for murder, torture, sexual misconduct, overthrow of the government and subjects so vile I refuse to listen. Those who sell the trash should be imprisoned for contributing to the delinquency of a minor.  

We have become so afraid of offending anyone that we are afraid to judge between right and wrong.  Right is right, wrong is wrong.

God wants us to stand up for the truth.  When Jesus spoke about judging, I think he wanted us to be careful of judging without looking at our own wrongs.  He does want us to stand up for what is right. Matthew 7:1 was quoted earlier, but most people miss what Jesus said in 7:2-5 (especially Mt 7:5 "First, take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.")  

Those who blatently choose to do wrong are challenging our right to say it is indeed wrong.

I don't think Tom was trying to attack this generation as a whole, rather what many of them say and do.  I think he has witnessed the progressive worsening of each generation.  Each new generation seems to want to "out do" the last.  I'm glad Tom is not afraid to stand up for what is right.  I suppose living in Florida Tom might be witness to more than some of us.  Don't be so hard on him.

Linda

[Percy]

Interesting thread.

Food for thought...Lyrics exerpt from "Mike and the Mechanics" LIVING YEARS


So we open up a quarrel, between the present and the past.
We only sacrifice the future, its the bitterness that lasts.
So dont yield to the fortunes, you sometimes see as fate.
You may have a new perspective, on a different date.
And if you dont give up and dont give in, you may just be ok.

[Duane_Moore]

 :DThese Kids nowdays, just look at um, 1957, duck axx hair, widdows peaks, Tee Shirts, no belt loops, wedge shoes, there pants down to the crack of there axx, smokin cigs, sneakin beer, and Thunder Bird wine. and what they do at Drive Inn Movies is Horrible,, there cars, loud pipes, names on the sides of then, lowering then, dropin the front on the ground, and want to go fast, some of them 60, 70, mph, and there music, Elvis, Dick Clark, that American Bandstand groupe, and how they talk, Nasty, cool, Bitchen,Stud,Beavers, Hay Man, such disrespect,they are the ruin of our nation. 1967, Look at this, Long Hair, Love Beads, Patches on the pants, Sandles, baggy shirts, don't shave, and Free Love, Drugs, Sex, Rock and Roll, and there music, why them played backwords mean something, and an Aferican beat, Peace signs, and cults, big music jams, there cars, they all got V-W- busses and vans, dens of enuiquity, the Ruin of a nation.  guess this could go on for each generation huh?  But ya know one thing streightened them all up. the Golden Rule,  He who has the Gold Rules. Money Talks, bull ship walkes. sure wished I was Young again. I would do all the crap they talk about. because only I have to answer to me. and if anybody else trys to dominate me I will only be worse, all I need is someone to Idolize, give me that and watch.   Duh---Duane, and that is a Mussintouchit, ya know -- must, not, touch, it,-- that is acceptable

[Stan]

Yeah Duane, I know. I'd of traded all that stuff you put down for the 50s for just a little bit of that stuff you put down for the 60s, and I aint talkin' about the dirt or drugs.  

[etat]

Very eloquently put Duane pretty much what I was thinking, but much better said.

[rebocardo]

> Holy Crap

If you can disbarage God's name by using it for a swear, then anything that follows seems a lot less. The word crap is nothing compared to using the word "Holy" as a swear. After all, crappies are low grade New England pond fish.

Count in a movie or show how many times you hear "Oh my God", "Jesus", etc. used as a swear word.

I have watched the Dave Lettermen or Jay Leno show and counted its use at least 10 times in 15 minutes. Terminator 3,  I never even watched the end of the movie because I could not stand the using of the Lord's name, in various forms, in vain.

If you carefully watch movies, you will see how you are being programmed. Example: The Specialist with Sly.Stallone. The only one in the whole movie wearing a cross (huge one at that so that yuo can not miss it) is the evil mob father that gives thanks to God all the time for the murder of his enemies. Especially at the end of the movie.

I have heard kids in my neighborhood that come from "Christian" homes say "oh my God" over stupid stuff. So, I put it this way to them. How would you feel if everytime someone stepped in dog poop if they picked up the bottom of their foot and said "oh my Rickie".

Slang is the end result of making other worse things acceptable such as using the Lord's name in vain. If you did that 50 years ago in public there would have been a good chance some guy would have boxed your ears. It never would have been acceptable in a TV show or movie, it would have been a career ender and never let past censors.

Now that the Lord's name is brought low, you can hear swear words on TV, cable, movies, and see someone flash their teats at 10s of millions of people and not be punished for it.

[redpowerd]

right on!

i allways wonderd how we became so accustomed to using the Lords name in vain in regular conversation. i wouldnt blame the schools, they only rasied us for 16 years to be diverse and ignore christian values.

[Stan]

I thought the Lord's name was Yaweh, and God was his title. But I'll agree there is way too much bad language. The problem is they weren't taught how to express themselves lucidly.  :-/

[Tom]

Teaching is just part of the equation.  Learning is the other part.

I had an algebra teacher tell us, "I can't bore a hole in your head and pour it in. You have to exhibit some effort in learning it."

[redpowerd]

yep, its just what we do with it.
ive meet some teachers that wanted to bore a hole in MY head, and i think the last thing they wanted to do was pour information in

[Linda]

Rebocardo,

I told a friend of mine once that she shouldn't use the  Lord's name in vain (after she said,"Oh my God for some trivial thing).  She replied, I didn't use His name in vain, because I didn't say *DanG it with His name.  I asked her if she knew that vain meant "for no good purpose."  I suppose a lot of people don't understand the difference.

[EZ]

I might cuss alittle if I get mad but I wont take the Lords name in vain, even when I was drinking I wouldnt say it.
EZ