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Offline Den Socling

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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« on: April 14, 2004, 12:20:53 pm »
I did a quick search for Beech Russ and didn't find much but these guys.

http://www.genemco.com/acatalog/Equipment_Catalog_Vacuum_Pumps_90.html

Sure is a lot of used vac pumps out there.

If the Beech Russ will pull vac, it will work.

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I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2004, 07:03:33 pm »
Here she is. Ain't she a Beauty ???



  NOW, how do we convert this thing to a wood dryin, board spittin, money makin piece of machinery ??? ???  8)  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2004, 07:26:52 pm »
Fla._Deadheader,

How big is the tank? Needs a little paint to make it a beauty.  :D :D :D :D
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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2004, 07:31:23 pm »
  She's 40" across and 14 foots long.

 If we paint it, them code-enforcin hound dogs will find it. This-a-way, they expect it to be UNused. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2004, 07:36:47 pm »
is it a bomb?
just had to ask, you did say wood splittin
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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2004, 07:46:13 pm »
Harold
1000 gal. ought ta do it eh? When ya gona start sucking the juice outa those cypress trees?
Gunna use vac or dh ?
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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2004, 07:48:21 pm »


 RED, that was S-P-I-T-T-I-N  ;D :D :D :D

 VAC all the way, according to Den  ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2004, 07:49:51 pm »
 :D
sorry, meant cannon.
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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2004, 06:48:48 am »
cool  8)

I'll do an estimate of how much 12' lumber might be loaded into the 'beauty' and do a guesstimate of vac pump size. and you probably know how a couple pieces of angle, with one flat side up, can make a track in cylinder. And we can talk about the heating system. Maybe I can do a really good deal for you on a controller. yep. I'm excited.  :D

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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2004, 09:01:53 am »
Herold you's as lucky as a swamp dog with water wings. I'm envious now.  Get that thing up and running and I'm coming down to copy it.  If you need any relays, transforners, switchs, magnetic starters, fuses and holders let me know. I've collected a whole shelf full of junk, ah, that is  good use electrical components. Got a numbers of motors also.
Good Luck with the construction and post pic along the way.
Lets see where did I pass that big propane tank last?
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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2004, 10:08:26 am »
  Ole Jason sent me some sorta elec-tronical contrapshun fer controllin somethin ??? ??? ???

 Ain't had time to un-wrap the package yet. I gotta send him some shippin funds afore he confiscates the thingy  ;D :D

 THANKS, Jason.  Does it werk ??? :D :D :D :D :D :D

 Den, I got it figgered that around 850-900 bd/ft would fit in that tank. Have to make some MIGHTY skinny duct work for the air circulation dealy.

 The pressure treatment plant in Deland uses a series of tanks that are about the same diameter, only LONGER.  The lumber that we sawed for the campground owner was tight bundled at 30" square and 16' long. That's 1200 bd/ft per bundle, no stickers.
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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2004, 12:59:37 pm »
Fl,

The last time I used that Keyence PLC it worked fine. I also sent you a programming guide and user manual. I believe it has six inputs and four outputs. Should be enough to get you going on a project like that. It is also expandable with extra input and output modules availble. I have no idea on what those cost though. Keyence still makes that PLC so it should be easy to find out costs on add on stuff.

I'll send you an IM on the shipping cost.

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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2004, 01:14:31 pm »
Fl

Be careful with that open frame 24 VDC power supply I sent you with the PLC. If you grab it while plugged in it will bite back ;D :o :-/

It should be fairly straight forward to program :P

Remember it is 24 VDC inputs and 24 VDCoutputs so applying 110V to the input/output will let out the magic smoke that makes it work.

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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2004, 02:49:39 pm »
 :o :o  I seen that smoke before. Yer absitively right, it won't work if ya let that smoke out ;) ;D :D :D :D
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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2004, 03:43:07 pm »
aw Jason! Are we going to make him face the agravation of a PLC?  :D Can't I just send him a loop controller that will run on anything from 90 to 264 volts, has relay outputs and only requires 3 connections for the RTD, 2 for power and 2 for the relay? I mean, he makes 7 connections and flips the on switch and it's done and runnin'. It tells him the temperature (right out of the box) and he pushes an up arrow or a down arrow to move the setpoint up or down. He's going to have enough of a challenge without being bored to death with a programming manual.

You must be a little geeky!  :D :D :D

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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2004, 04:40:18 pm »
Den,

The open frame power supply is good for 110 and 220V. Just have to reconfigure the input in the primary of the transformer. ;D ;D

Ya, the programming may be a hurdle at first but one you get the hang if it pretty much falls together.

I have moved on to microcontrollers like the PIC16F877 that is why the PLC was collecting dust in my desk drawer.

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Re: I GOT ME ONE, I GOT ME ONE
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2004, 05:52:42 pm »
Actually, he will eventually need a PLC to dump water and calculate MC and drying rate. That will be way down the road.

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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2004, 06:11:50 pm »
FD,
If you did decide to go this route. Why couldn't you weld pipe external of the tank for duct. Say 6 or 8" would do and save all the inside space. You got to be welding and cutting anyway.  
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2004, 06:25:10 pm »
FD.
Paint it blue!Den likes blue.
Cut both ends.Easier to make repairs.Trust me on this.
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2004, 07:05:09 pm »
  External pipe might work. I was concerned about the fan for sealing the duct. Wouldn't the fan be subjected to extreme conditions ??? How would you seal the wires leading to the fan, OR, how would you seal the fan itself???  No fan ???

 Flanges would be my choice for connecting the duct to the tank. ???

 My BIG question, is, where do you get a gasket big enough to seal the door(s) ???
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