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cat vs bobcat skid steer
« on: March 25, 2013, 05:18:37 pm »
I am demoing a 262c cat skid steer.  Also I am going to tryy a new 650 bobcat which is the old s-250.  Anyone have any expierience with either of them.  Thanks In advance. Sully

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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2013, 06:52:11 pm »
I have to say no, but if you are trying them, I would say make your own opinion, based on how the operation of the units works for you, how available service is in your area, and last but not lest, is the color right? close to the same,   
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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2013, 07:00:59 pm »
sorry, not familiar with those model #s but I couldnt do without the wrist controls.  never cared for bobcats foot controls.  I know nothing about the cat skidsteer at all.  When it comes to skidsteer I loved every Case I have ever been on.  Like drobertson mentioned (and it seems your looking brand new?) then consider their service times and location to/from you.
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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2013, 07:38:09 pm »
CustomSawyer just got a NEW HOLLAND skid steer. Maybe he knows something about the ones you are asking about. He'll probably chime in, in a little while.
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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2013, 08:31:40 pm »
We have had both at work in addition to a Gehl 4625. The new Bobcats can be ordered with hand or foot control. Most people prefer hand control for sure. Bobcat makes a nice machine, I like them A LOT more than a John Deere or New Holland. But, if you spent 2 hours in the Bobcat and then 2 hours in the CAT, I doubt you would want to get out and go back. Either has great aftermarket support. If money is not a big issue, buy the CAT. If the Bobcat is significantly less expensive, don't test drive the CAT and you'll be fine :D I just bought an old Bobcat 873 with foot controls and a blown engine . But that's because money WAS a big issue ;D And, I love orphaned junk, just ask my wife and anyone that knows me :laugh:

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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 09:36:55 pm »
I have run the Bobcat s250 and t190 both were excellent controls. A lot of farmers near me have New Holland skid steers and they run great and take a lot of abuse. Never had a chance to run a Cat skid steer, but judging by there other equipment I don't think you could go wrong with them either. I personally like the foot controls but that's just what I'm use to, haven't had much time on machines with joy sticks. From a maintaince point of view when it comes to construction equipment and tractors I tend the choice the machine with less electronics. As far as the john deere's go you couldn't give me a new one.
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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2013, 09:57:50 pm »
I have both a Cat 262 and a Bobcat 763. The Cat is by FAR the better machine. Bought it new in 2002, only trouble Ive had was putting in a bushing around throttle rod at injector pump. It has been used in the woods and around the mill its whole life. Great machine. The Bobcat is used only around the mill, and has had no issues. I sure like the hand controls on the Cat better than the feet/hand controls on the Bobcat.

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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2013, 06:43:02 am »
I've used Bobcat, Case and Cat and very much prefer the hand controls. When you demo it ask them to let you hit a few curbs and uneven ground, you may find on rough terrain the foot controls can foul you up on occasion. I also feel the Case and Cat felt more stable on side hills and loading/unloading on uneven ground.
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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2013, 07:00:01 am »
before i got my last new loader. i had all 4 brand at the mill the same day for me to try side by side. cat, n.h. bobcat, j.d.at the end of the day(no pun) i went with the more expensive one.
 its a 2010 and i have 1100 hrs on it now and i simply love it but, then i was pretty sure i would. it was the most nimble, easy to get the feel of, the best in cab visability, biggest feeling cab, quitest cab. i could keep going.the dealers were all about the same distance from me.so i went with same brand i've had for 15 yrs prior. john deere :D sorry guys but for me its still the best machine i can run.
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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2013, 07:34:00 am »
A while back my son and I picked up a 325 jd used low hrs ,It's so far a great machine but it"s our first skidsteer so it"s hard to compare.I do like the hand controls and the power it's strong.
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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2013, 08:04:44 am »
Thanks for the replies both of the machines are 2012 the cat has 250 hours on a city lease return.   Still a little under 40k.  Bobcat just told me he has a new no hour unit with joystick controls for 40 I am going to demo that one friday.  I do like how the cat can move around 20' 36" wide walnut with the rootball on.  I hate spending money.  Sully

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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2013, 09:29:20 am »
Run them all and decide which one you like. Personally I love my Bobcat with foot controls for the bucket. Others complain about them but I have great control with my feet so it leaves me hands free to run everything else. It all comes down to personal preference really.

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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2013, 12:04:40 pm »
Also I will be using the machine to shear. Pile. And shred cedar trees so it will be pushed fairly hard.

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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2013, 01:03:49 pm »
find out the hydralic flows, get high flow if you can. if your going to be using the axuliary hydralics you'll want it. just curious are the cabs pressurized for dust and sound? i know deere's are which makes for real quite operation. i dont need the stereo blasting to hear it :)
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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2013, 02:48:08 pm »
They say that they are pressurised.  The cat is pretty quiet in the cab.  I am having a heck of a time finding high flow.  This machine will probably be standard flow.  And the in a few months this machine will be on a grappel only and I will get a larger machine with high flow.  Thanks sully

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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2013, 07:59:54 pm »
before i got my last new loader. i had all 4 brand at the mill the same day for me to try side by side. cat, n.h. bobcat, j.d.at the end of the day(no pun) i went with the more expensive one.
 its a 2010 and i have 1100 hrs on it now and i simply love it but, then i was pretty sure i would. it was the most nimble, easy to get the feel of, the best in cab visability, biggest feeling cab, quitest cab. i could keep going.the dealers were all about the same distance from me.so i went with same brand i've had for 15 yrs prior. john deere :D sorry guys but for me its still the best machine i can run.

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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2013, 08:20:48 pm »
 I run a Case 75xt which is super smooth, last year I put about 200 hours on a Bobcat 190t the controls wre jerky and hard to operate compared the my Case.  Have heard nothing but good about Cat.  Steve
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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2013, 08:25:14 pm »
I got the NH. It has a 90 HP engine. It is not a bad machine I think I am just a bad operator. I have less than 20 hours running this machine so I doubt if I would be the best one to ask as to how good the machine is. For a fair assessment I think it should be run by someone that knows what they are doing. The main thing that I can say for it is that the better I learn how to operate it the better it does. 
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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2013, 10:21:43 pm »
the only thing i can add to this thread is that machines differ greatly even when they're made by the same company.  for example we run both a bobcat 150 and 130 at work.  the 150 is smooth and easy to feather and the 130 is crazy jumpy.  you really have to be careful when running it.  both machines are the same age but operate very differently.  just something to consider.   :)
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Re: cat vs bobcat skid steer
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2013, 09:53:28 am »
All I can add is that the track machines generally have a heavier lift capacity, and are much more stable.

For people who are getting a bit long in the tooth, much less likelihood of feeling like you were in a car accident after spending a few hours operating one.
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