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Offline jim king

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I think a complicated question
« on: February 02, 2012, 02:02:16 pm »
I just got a call on SKYPE from a plywood manufacturer in Germany that wants clear round cants fron 12 to 30 inches.  He wants them turned to be sapwood and bark free.  In other words perfect cants that he can make veneer from with no waste.
Does anyone have any ingenious ideas as how to do this without cooking the logs and using a huge veneer machine to get them round.?
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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 02:12:42 pm »
How would you keep them from checking during shipment?
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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 02:21:06 pm »
How perfectly round?

I'm assuming it's to avoid shipping most of the waste 1/2 way around the world?

Would something like a "lathemizer" do the job? Hold the log by the ends and rotates it. Take 10 or 12 faces off and get an almost round log?

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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 03:18:41 pm »
could you build a giant version of a wooden peg former with thick steel plates and hydraulics?  force the log through the die, and form to fit? probably have to do some slabbing first, and run through the forming die to get final shape?  That is a stumper ??? ???
What lengths of rounds are they looking for 60" or longer?
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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 03:50:57 pm »
just tell the guy you will make his plywood for him... ::)
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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 04:29:14 pm »
A rosser head debarker might do the trick for least cost. Just keep "debarking" until the sapwood is gone.

But the contacter sounds like he might not have an idea of degrade during the shipping phase. Can you get it to them in less than 6 months?

I'd suggest calling them veneer bolts and not "cants" for a bit more clarity.
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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 05:10:58 pm »
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How perfectly round?
  They do not have to be perfectly smooth  but without bark or sap wood and yes the reason is to not ship scrap to the other side of the world.

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What is a lathemizer and where do I find one ??  I could not find anything on the internet.   

But the contacter sounds like he might not have an idea of degrade during the shipping phase. Can you get it to them in less than 6 months?
  He does understand degrade and is now buying from Africa,  The ends will be sealed and strechwrapped.

He needs 8 foot 6 inch long.  I just found a little info on the lathemizer.  It doesnt say much,  any one know about them.  There are several abandonded woodmizers here if it fits on a woodmizer.

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I'd suggest calling them veneer bolts and not "cants" for a bit more clarity.
I am just happy to call them something, mixing German, English and Spanish gets a need for coffee early.

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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 05:16:49 pm »
Quote from: jim king on February 02, 2012, 05:10:58 pm
mixing German, English and Spanish gets a need for coffee early.

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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 05:31:41 pm »
Lathemizer can turn round posts, I saw them doing that at a demo.
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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 05:40:59 pm »
Can you get to the Woodmizer website? There's info on the Lathemizer there. And, yes, it's a Woodmizer product.
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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 05:41:44 pm »
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There are several abandonded woodmizers here if it fits on a woodmizer.
Wish I could find one of those . . .
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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2012, 05:52:03 pm »
Use the Rosser head debarker.  It will be the fastest thing you could use.  I saw one guy make mulch from logs by using a debarker.  When he was done, he had a round piece that he made into firewood.

If you are using butt logs, you'll have to trim off the butt flare in order to minimize the debarking process.  You should be able to do a log in about 5 minutes, depending on the amount of sapwood.  You'll need aggressive teeth to get through the harder material.
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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2012, 05:56:55 pm »
Lathemizer.



Seems they can make round logs. And yes it's an attachment that bolts to the bed of a normal Woodmizer sawmill.

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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2012, 06:20:28 pm »
The debarker would be your best option , the lathemizer would not be very efecient in those hard as rock woods you have.
 Why are there several Woodmizers abandoned  ???
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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2012, 06:27:25 pm »
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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2012, 06:53:53 pm »
Anyone know what is the largest dia a woodmizer attachment can produce ??  Since there are wood mizers available in town that seems like the fastest bet.

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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2012, 07:23:36 pm »
Iwould like to talk to anyone that has a Lathemizer or from the factory .  The woodmizer people here are not to helpful.
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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2012, 07:42:10 pm »
Jim you might get a quicker response if you post to their Sponsor Board. The forum has gotten big enough that they may not even see a question posed if not in their board area.

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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2012, 07:56:22 pm »
 Tallest cut is 35 or 36  inches on the mill from the bunks ..  Now what the lathmizer takes from that I have no clue but I do know it will be smaller.
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Re: I think a complicated question
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2012, 08:33:40 pm »
Can you clarify that a bit¨?  Do you mean the rough sawn round log can be over 30 inches and the rounding of the log makes it a bit smaller ?  If that is so it would work.  Next problem is how log does it take to round a 30 " log
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