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Sourwood
« on: January 30, 2012, 10:35:54 am »
Anybody ever mill or have any experience with sourwood? Any remote chance of pics? 
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 06:12:18 pm »

 Never heard of it, is that it's real name or nickname. Pics?  Steve
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 06:24:23 pm »
a google search says Sourwood or sorrel tree is Oxydendrum arboreum

the tree is renowned for its nector and they make jelly from joice from its blooms.

and here is a link to some info about it with a small picture, it looks like a light wood without too much grain.
http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/sourwood/

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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 06:25:00 pm »
I would reply about SOURWOOD but I think this topic would be moved to ASK THE FORESTER.
But yes, there is a SOURWOOD tree.
Google SOURWOOD and you can find out a lot about it.

Modified: Sorry jueston, I think we posted within the same minute. Didn't mean to repeat what you said but I had no way of knowing.
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2012, 07:16:12 pm »
I don't think you have any in New Mexico. Do you? We do have it here. It typically gets to around 8 inch diameter but I did help cut up a spirally one for firewood recently that was about 14". I saw one a few days ago that was about 18". They often as not grow at an angle. I call them Seven-trees because they so often look like a number 7. Sometimes they are bowed over in a graceful arch until the top is 90 degrees to the ground. They are often quite crooked.

I have not yet milled any, but would like to. They are a high-ground, understory tree and grow very slowly, with nice tight rings. Easy to cut, but fairly heavy and tough. I have imagined that it might make some nice lumber, but haven't tried yet. Want me to send you a log??? (for the right price)
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2012, 08:16:00 pm »
Lots of sourwood in these parts, but never milled any. I usually keep empty supers on the bees during the sourwood bloom because they make great clear honey from it. The bloom hangs like a bell so even during heavy rains the nector won't wash off like poplar, etc. I really don't know any other usage for sourwood.
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2012, 08:34:43 pm »
Pardon my sheltered upbringing, but what's a yooper?
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2012, 08:35:59 pm »
Where does such a word appear?
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 08:43:47 pm »
Lots of sourwood in dese parts, but never milled any. dis yooper usually keep empty supers on Da bees during Da sourwood bloom because dey make great clear honey from it. Da bloom hangs like a bell so even during heavy rains Da nector won't wash off like poplar, etc. dis yooper really don't know any other usage for sourwood.

It is inserted everywhere in the thread where the word "I" would be. Somebody somehow hacked this, or maybe just on my computer??
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 08:45:16 pm »
Must be just your computer.
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 08:45:27 pm »
Back to normal now.  ???  Weird. Really weird.
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2012, 08:48:25 pm »
Every post in this thread was showing up like that, with hick speech inserted. "Dis Yooper" for "I", "Da" for "The", "Dey" for "They" and so on. I hope my computer isn't messing up. But the quote I posted seems to have copied that one post word for word as I saw it, and now the problem is cleared up. Very strange.
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2012, 08:51:21 pm »
Not a problem, just da yooper administrators from Michigan. http://www.forestryforum.com/cgi-bin/tips/tips.cgi?display:1113851729-5474.txt
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2012, 08:56:37 pm »
Ok, ha ha ha. I guess I've never been to Michigan, and it shows!  ;D
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2012, 08:58:32 pm »
Can we have Maine night sometime? If yuv nevah huhd how Mainiacs tock, it could take a lil gittin usta. Its not fah the faint of haht.
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2012, 09:01:35 pm »
Now you've got the spirit!   :D
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2012, 09:56:27 pm »
I think that Dodgy Loner has milled some.  Maybe he will chime in.  I do know that the leaves turn a beautiful red in the fall. 
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2012, 10:25:41 pm »
You've come to the right place, my friend :). I milled one a few years back. It milled up nicely and dried without many problems, but frankly the color of the wood didn't make me want to mill any more. The log I had was several months old when I milled it, which is why you see some bluish gray staining near the bark, but farther into the trunk was a pretty bland beige color. I still haven't done anything with the wood, so I don't have any insight into its workability.

 

 

 
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2012, 10:28:58 pm »
It has that cinnamon colored inner bark.  I bet it would make nice live edge slabs with bark on if it was cut in the winter and if you could get a big enough tree.
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2012, 11:25:06 pm »
Probably would look nicer if you mill the log right after it is cut, especially in winter time. My guess.
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2012, 02:37:29 am »
I remember some old timers making sled runners with sourwood, they made good runners with just the right bend from the way they grow. They are the first tree to bloom in the spring here.

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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2012, 07:13:33 am »
Around here, it makes the best honey, I'll leave mine for my bees.
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2012, 09:54:59 am »
It does make an excellent, tangy honey. We have millions of them here in this area and I have a neighbor who has bees and his honey is quite exquisite. they especially like to grow in the upland areas, on the mountains and the tops and sides of hills. Usually under oaks and other taller species. But the next chance I have when there's a forced harvesting of a larger example, I'm going to try to mill it.
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2012, 10:47:16 am »
Thanks yall. I understand that it's related to manzanita and madrone, which are beautiful woods, so I figured i'd inquire with the forum to see if anybody had experience. We don't have it here in NM, but do have a lil in southern Ohio. I cut lots of maple in Ohio, and thought I might try a sourwood if it seemed interesting enough. I have cut a couple dogwoods on a whim & was impressed with how hard & smooth textured the wood was. I'm just curious when it comes to trees. Lots to learn :) Thanks again.   
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Re: Sourwood
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2012, 10:56:42 am »
Sourwood should be a relatively tough, strong, heavy wood, but not overly special in any way.
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