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Anticipation, it's killing me.
« on: January 27, 2012, 09:09:19 pm »
It's only been a few days since I have agreed to purchase a used EZ Boardwalk Jr. But have not had the time to make the journey to collect it.  It looks like it won't be this weekend, unless something happens and we get time to make the 8-9 hour round trip...  I don't know what to do.

I can't look at my phone without opening the photo's to see Jr., and he cries out, "Daddy, come take me to my new home!".  I try to reassure him that it'll be soon.  But I can't seem to convince myself that what I tell him is true.  It could be true...?

Will I be taking EZ Boardwalk Jr. home soon?  Only time will tell. 

But for tonight; All I have is the glow from my phone shining upon my face - showing me what WILL be mine.

I can only dream of the things we will make together.  The smell of Cedar in the air, the "blood" of the great Junipers Heart feeding the earth around us.  The sound of your 13hp motor roaring it's battle cry as you revolve your blade - prepared to rip through timber with your razor sharp teeth.

EZ Boardwalk Jr., I will take you home, Daddy's coming for you soon.  But tonight; we dream.

This anticipation is killing me!

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Re: Anticipation, it's killing me.
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 09:12:31 pm »
i think you should spend some time with the wife and kids this weekend, after you get the mill home they might not see you for a few days.... :) :D :D

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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 09:24:30 pm »
Oh, they are ready for me to go I'm sure. If my wife has to see another picture or video of a sawmill, she'll probably change the locks when I go to pick it up!
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 09:26:19 pm »
Well at least when he does get it home the mrs. will know where he is. Ozarkian we need your address so we can send a condolance card to your sawmill widow! :D  ;D ;)

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Re: Anticipation, it's killing me.
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 09:45:09 pm »

 Ozarkian,
               I found you another U-Tube video to watch while you are waiting.
        Some guy is demonstrating the EZ-Jr

   



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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 09:56:59 pm »
It's not the same. That's just one of his brothers.  It's just not the same.  :'(
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Re: Anticipation, it's killing me.
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 09:59:23 pm »
That guy needs a LogRite cant hook, bad.  Ozarkian, definitely plan at some point to get a LogRite cant hook.  You won't believe how much better they are than anything else out there.  I used two wooden cant hooks for years.  The LogRites that I have now are 1000% better.
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 09:59:57 pm »
you got it bad Ozarkian
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 10:04:22 pm »
Ozarkian,
Did you get some of that fine bandsawdust on you somehow? I thought you had to have contact with it to get the fever. Maybe it is more comunicable than I thought. smiley_sick  PC
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 10:05:55 pm »
I'll check it out, I have old wooden handle one I picked up at a flea market.  Wouldn't hurt to have another one though.

Yes, I do have it bad.   :D
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 10:11:16 pm »
I caught the bandsaw dust virus from that dang ol' Forestry Forum! >:(. It immediately went straight to my bloodstream. Doctors said there's nothing they can do, it's terminal. 

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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2012, 10:26:14 pm »
tole ya!
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2012, 10:32:06 pm »
I accept my terminal diagnosis.  I just need the prescribed treatment...  RX EZJR-Sawmill.  smiley_sick
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2012, 10:49:33 pm »
Well I hope your sawmill arrives soon. It just aint rite to sit here and watch you suffer. If it makes you feel any better. I cant use my mill either. It is all muddy here since spring decided to arrive early her in New England.

Now I am off to find part two of that video.

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 11:13:35 pm »

Click on You-tube to watch it and he lists 6 videos in his folder. Find #2 there.







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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2012, 11:44:39 pm »
   Ozarkian, Hope you get it soon. I'm hoping to get one shortly.Good Luck!

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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2012, 11:49:51 pm »
     Awsome.  I think you'll be happy with your new mill.  I've got an EZ-Boardwalk 40 and really like it!

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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2012, 08:46:34 am »
howdy ozarkian
 lol yeah you got it bad ,but im guilty too . i have looked at all the mills , homemade and factory built.
  i am adding all i like from each in building mine.
 but i do have some gun barrel work coming up so ill have to stop and do the barrel , and have a few $$ to get stuff lol   

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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2012, 09:04:05 am »
Congrats on the mill. Get the kids out there too,but be safe. Do you have good steel toe boots,gloves,safety glasses? Shovel to move sawdust. The kids can play in the sawdust and get it down thier pants and bring it in the house.  ;D
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2012, 09:37:04 am »
Carpenter:  I had myself convinced I was going to have one built for me, or buy the Woodland Mill's HM126. But was still looking at good used, and then I was offered this deal.  If you are considering the different options new mills have to offer; then consider the Woodland Mills HM126's setup - the adjustable handle and "Gas and Go" easy handle throttle design look like they would be nice.

Good luck on the build, and take lots of photos, many of us will be interested to see your progress.

thecfarm:  Thanks!  The kids will be involved!  I was them to respect machinery, and understand the dangers of being close to something without proper safety gear.  I will have them stand at a distance while the mill is running, but when I complete a log, i'll have them help pick up the smaller slabs and shovel sawdust sometimes.  They grew up in a city environment until we moved here, and I am trying to "countrify" them  ;).  It bother's me, being that I grew up on a farm my entire childhood, that they are afraid of so many things.  I don't want them to fear so much, yet, want to teach them to respect and understand true danger.

I do have most all the necessary safety equipment, I may need to pick up a better pair of steel toes.  But I am working with smaller logs, so I may put that off to begin with.

Any suggestions what to do with ERC sawdust?  I was thinking saving it for flower beds or bagging it and selling or giving it away??
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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2012, 09:41:00 am »
Could ERC be used for bedding for animals? I know we had a cedar place just up the road and they would sell a garbage bag for 50 cents,probably be a dollar now. Was not compacted,just shoveled in.
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2012, 09:45:58 am »
Gday

I know the feeling and I have had it a few times over the years I was like that a couple of years ago when we got the 10" Lucas I had to get an order out and was sawing on the 97 mod 8-20 and Lu had to wait about a week for me to get time to go up n bring him home  :) Jesi and I are going through it now with deciding how far to stretch ourselves whether to just Get a LT15 or a 35HYD or a 40HYD Im sure im driving her nuts but I have said plenty off times I dont realy care as long as it Makes Timber she dose not like me working on a manual mill and it dont take long to pay for them whatever you buy yoou just have to work it to the point you can upgrade then step on up  this is mill #8 for me and Our First :) ;) ;D 8)

Just make a day or to for it and do it bring him home to where he belongs !!  You got it bad Buddy but its Allgood Mate  ;) ;D ;D 8) 8)

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Re: Anticipation, it's killing me.
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2012, 09:46:54 am »
  I hear ya man, I found mine, and got it within 32 hours.  There was no sleeping in that time.  It looks to me like all the parts are interchangable between the jr in the video, and my ta schmid, everything but the frame.  Thats good to know. 
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2012, 09:49:46 am »
Looks like you have one of the most serious cases of millidious that I have seen in a while. Do you need some help getting that mill and stuff back to your house? Ill come and save you if that will get you healed up from the fever. Let me know, bg

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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2012, 10:15:16 am »
Yeah cedar can be used for bedding on cattle. Right now we have 8- 55gal. drums full of shavings and dust from a local cabinet shop. We use it on our young calves for bedding.

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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2012, 10:22:47 am »
My Precious!!!    ::) ::) ::)  Hopefully sawdust in blood disease doesn't lead to this:
LINKS TO OFFSITE PHOTOS ARE NOT ALLOWED

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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2012, 12:32:28 pm »
I'm still sneaking time to my HF mill when ever I can. I finally trashed my original blade on some dirty old junk stuff, but it did well for quite awhile. Now to the new cook's blades finally.

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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2012, 03:19:53 pm »
Hey have you got a pile of logs staring at you?

Cause that will do it, sure, a pile of logs, no matter how small will start to wisper at you, and can make you go a little "gollum crazy"

I have some under the snow right now, I just walked by and sure enough there was the familiar sound..

Awe shucks...I think I hear them double dog daring me to go and shovel some snow and fire up the mill...
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2012, 06:53:40 pm »
You might have noticed it don't wash off with soap.

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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2012, 10:48:44 am »
I have lots of logs staring at me, taunting me.  But the real trouble comes from not cutting any more!  I decided to stop gathering logs until I get the ones I already have cut into lumber, so idle hands are getting the best of me. 

Now, I am just researching the best way to do my pole barn/timber frame building.  Getting the right design for what I want is time consuming!  There are so many different variables that would be nice... 

Now that I am getting a sawmill, the size of what I originally was going to build (20x40) seems to small, and I now want BIGGER!  30x50 or 30x60 with full second floor or loft, with lean-to's built on three sides - one side for the sawmill (open walls), one side as a solar kiln (enclosed), and one side as a paint room (enclosed).   

The foundation is what is confusing me. I am considering either:

Option 1) Placing the poles directly in the ground below frost line upon a concrete base and wrapping the submerged timber (likely 8x8 ERC) for protection.  Then filling with concrete around each post. 

Option 2) Digging below frost line and and pouring a concrete pier with rebar and brackets that come above the ground approx. 18", then attach post to the brackets.

Option 3) Same as option 1; but instead of filling with concrete, place large stone at bottom of hole, set pole on top, then fill with gravel and sand.

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Opinions?  I know this is the sawmill forum, but seems to have more traffic in here than timber-frame forum! 

 ??? ??? ???

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« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2012, 11:02:45 am »
What type of soil and base do you have? That will play a major part in determining your course of action. I personally like to use the Bigfoot footings http://www.bigfootsystems.com/?gclid=CNLQsaTM9a0CFcXd4Aodjiysuw and piers. Of course, up here we go 4 foot down and have to deal with hard pan and rock. My advise is to go bigger, if you can. I just built a 24'x24' extension on a 30'x40' building and wish I had more space now. It's amazing how quickly you run out of room when you start moving in your 'stuff'.

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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2012, 11:32:31 am »
Thanks for the reply EastBC.  The soil here in my area is made up of mostly rock and clay.  Those Bigfoot footings look like they would be very nice, but how much do they cost...  Did not see a price listed on website, and my budget is very low for this project. 
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« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2012, 12:05:23 pm »
This is what I used when I built my sawshed Long Link You have to account for not having lateral support since your posts arent going into a hole. Just run plenty of diagonal bracing in the roof section. The tin for the walls and roof add a lot of rigidity. Since your posts won't be in the ground, they should last forever. They are 5 3/8 wide for store bought 6x6. so I milled my erc posts 5 3/8 x6 for all but the two for the large opening. The two for the large opening I milled out of black locust and they are 5 3/8 x8.
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« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2012, 12:13:31 pm »
Agree pretty sure you don't want wood inside either ground or concrete because of rot, find some other way.
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« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2012, 02:27:56 pm »
Hey Ozarkian, they run about $20 a piece in my area. Well worth the money, IMO. You'll have to check your local distributor's for price, maybe cheaper down your way. Everything is so expensive in NY. I agree with Jake on using a standoff on top of your pier. Keeps the wood from contacting the concrete and drawing moisture in.
Clay/rock=poor drainage, definitely no on putting wood directly in the ground. My 2 cents anyway....

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« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2012, 02:47:37 pm »
Hey, thanks for the replies.  Could anybody provide me with some picture examples of a "standoff on top of your piers".  I am much more of a visual learner. ;D  I will check on the pricing tomorrow since I doubt they would be open Sunday. 

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« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2012, 03:08:25 pm »
hey eastberkshire
that big foot system looks cool ,never seen it before
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« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2012, 07:03:39 pm »
Ozarkian     I googled [ ezboardwalk jr ] and got a diffirent web page and the price for new jr $3600.   I guess they are discounting them.check it out.

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« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2012, 07:08:39 pm »
. Could anybody provide me with some picture examples of a "standoff on top of your piers".  I am much more of a visual learner.

-Ozarkian
Well there are a few different styles. One style is like hackberryjake posted. You need to sink a 'j' bolt into your wet concrete or drill it afterward and set an anchor bolt. Another style is like a piece of pipe with a cradle on the top that you set into the wet concrete. This style you have to be more precise on layout, no adjustment once the concrete is hard. I have used both and don't really have a preference. I may have some extra in a box somewhere and will post up a pic. if I find them. 

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« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2012, 07:14:19 pm »
hey eastberkshire
that big foot system looks cool ,never seen it before
Yeah Steve, they work very well, tapered to keep them from heaving up and a large footprint to keep them from settling down. Super easy to use,  you can screw different size form tubes to them and use another Bigfoot upside down as a funnel to fill them. The only down side is that you need to dig a larger hole than with just a tube alone.

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« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2012, 09:29:03 pm »

Now, I am just researching the best way to do my pole barn/timber frame building.  Getting the right design for what I want is time consuming!  There are so many different variables that would be nice... 

Now that I am getting a sawmill, the size of what I originally was going to build (20x40) seems to small, and I now want BIGGER!  30x50 or 30x60 with full second floor or loft, with lean-to's built on three sides - one side for the sawmill (open walls), one side as a solar kiln (enclosed), and one side as a paint room (enclosed).   

The foundation is what is confusing me.

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The size of foundation depends on the load bearing capacity of your soil.
The load on your foundation depends on the weight of the building (dead load),
plus how much snow you have on the roof if you get any (snow load).
If you have a floor it will also have to carry the contents of the building (live load)

Add the loads up and divide them by the square footage of your foundation, that will give you a pounds per square inch, then see if your soil can support that many pounds per square inch.

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If your using a post and beam style of foundation you will have to work out your point loads and size the supporting pad, under the post, to support the weight.

(this is also part of the process of calculating your timber species and dimensions)

If you take the plan of a pole barn that is designed with a dirt floor, then add a floor system and possibly a second story floor, you may experience problems in future years.

If you dont have earth quakes or strong wind you can leave a stub of re-bar sticking out the middle of your concrete post, then drill a hole in the bottom center of your wooden post. Then stand the post over the top of the re-bar with a piece of asphalt shingle between the two.
If you use this method and the wind blows strong your building may fall over.

You can also get expensive galvanized hold down brackets from Simpson, they are engineered to withstand a given amount of force.
If the concrete (the bracket is attached too) is not heavy enough, the bracket will move with the concrete still attached.

On a build of the size you are talking about it is easy to spend money where it is not needed, it is also just as easy to over look critical points.

Look around at buildings of a similar size/style in your neighborhood, look at their foundations and the style of construction. Look for some old barns and you will know which systems works  ;)

For the amount of money you will spend on the building the cost of a consultation by a professional would be a small percentage of the total.
If your going to the trouble of building a large timber frame you want it to last a few hundred years.

I live in an area that has not had building inspections enforced.
There are many creative "foundations" around here.
Last summer I jacked up three cabins and replaced parts of the post and beam foundations from underneath.
If you can avoid it dont put wood in the ground or in concrete.

It may suit you to build in a modular way.
Build a smaller building with the intent to add on to it as you go along.
Logging the trees, then learning to mill the lumber, then building the building can take a long time, especially learning to timber frame at the same time.
If you put up a smaller building it will give you some where to cut the frame of an addition.
You can be inside and warm on cold winter evenings and still get some work done.
It would be a shame for all those nice wood working machines to spend a winter under a tarp.
Assuming  you dont have a building at the moment.

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« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2012, 09:54:21 pm »
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I look forward to your stories once you bring JR home!

I have started a pole barn. I am setting poles (old utility poles) about 4 feet apart and below the frost line.  I will notch them at the top so one of the doubled 2x6 can set on the notch and the second will be even with the 2x4 girts on the exterior.  I will then set trusses on 2 foot centers on these double 2x6's.  We don't have the load you would have. I am building a 24x30 for the tractor and some equipment.  Maybe one of these days I will put a saw mill under the lean-to.

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« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2012, 11:52:59 pm »
I have two pole barn post left over from a job. They are 23'+ long. They are made with 3 2x6 staggered and nailed together. The bottom 2x6's are treated,4', 6',8'.then the rest are regular pine. I'm going to made may own using milled pine and buying the green treat. I will dig 12" holes 4' deep. put in a concrete pad 10"to 12". Let that harden then put in the poles. Then fill the rest up with concrete. You could make these any length. My barn will be 30'x28' or so and 21/2 stories high.

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« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2012, 12:48:45 am »
75 % of my work is replacing rotten wood.
Last week I had a job to replace a utility pole serving an out building.
The original pole was W R cedar 10inch diameter 24 ft long.
It was set in 3 ft of concrete
It had rotted from 6 inches above the ground to the bottom.
It looked fine from the outside until it fell over,

I replaced it with the top half  of a P/T utility pole.

The origonal post had been in the ground aprox 20 yrs.

One of the cabins I worked on had creosoted timbers perhaps railway sleepers set vertical in 3ft of concrete.
They looked solid but when I hit them with a hammer they turned to dust.
They had been under the house, in the ground for 40 yrs.
I think they rotted in from the ends where they were cut.

The average lifespan of an outside P/T deck is 15 - 20 yrs.
The wood rots where ever it is in contact with another piece of wood.
P/T Laminated beams rot from inside and the joists rot where they go over the beam.

I live in a temperate, coastal rain forest.

I dont want to imply that wood in the ground does not last very well in all of North America.  :D :D

I can only relate my experience and I dont always know where you all live.... :) :) :)
I hope I have not offended anyone   :-\ :-\ :-\
I would say that a large amount of advice given on the internet is regional specific and this may effect its suitability for your application  ??? ??? ???

 
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« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2012, 01:48:53 pm »
I've never had a piece of green treat that rated for ground contact fail yet,but i've only been using it for 34 years. :D

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« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2012, 02:52:40 pm »
Losttheplot: You Sir, you rock - that is a short summary of what I already wrote and (thought) I had posted. But my phone died after I wrote up a long response to those of you who replied.  Made me mad, so I now have phone charged and will keep it simple! :) Once again, you rock! Thanks for the very informative advice, I will refer back to it many times in my near future.

To the rest: I will write a better response soon when I sit down at the computer!

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« Reply #46 on: January 31, 2012, 08:20:37 am »
Ozarkian, hang in there with the waiting process. When you get the mill, you will know it was worth the wait. You will be amazed at what a small engine and small mill will cut. The trailer package is great. If nothing else, you can put the wheels under and pull up and clean up around it and then put it right back. I don't know if you have met the builder of these, but it doesn't get any better than dealing with him or his family. The manual mill is now part of my weight loss program.
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« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2012, 08:44:04 am »
Ozarkian     I googled [ ezboardwalk jr ] and got a diffirent web page and the price for new jr $3600.   I guess they are discounting them.check it out.

That was an old old page from E.Z. Boardwalks old website that some how google dug up.
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« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2012, 02:07:53 am »
Jeff        I figured 3600. was too good to be true.       Thanks

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« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2012, 04:26:31 pm »
It's only been a few days since I have agreed to purchase a used EZ Boardwalk Jr. But have not had the time to make the journey to collect it.  It looks like it won't be this weekend, unless something happens and we get time to make the 8-9 hour round trip...  I don't know what to do.

I can't look at my phone without opening the photo's to see Jr., and he cries out, "Daddy, come take me to my new home!".  I try to reassure him that it'll be soon.  But I can't seem to convince myself that what I tell him is true.  It could be true...?

Will I be taking EZ Boardwalk Jr. home soon?  Only time will tell. 

But for tonight; All I have is the glow from my phone shining upon my face - showing me what WILL be mine.

I can only dream of the things we will make together.  The smell of Cedar in the air, the "blood" of the great Junipers Heart feeding the earth around us.  The sound of your 13hp motor roaring it's battle cry as you revolve your blade - prepared to rip through timber with your razor sharp teeth.

EZ Boardwalk Jr., I will take you home, Daddy's coming for you soon.  But tonight; we dream.

This anticipation is killing me!

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I've got the same symptoms you have and I'm afraid there's only one cure.  How did you find the used mill? 
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« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2012, 07:16:34 pm »
When do you get to check him out and bring him home?

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« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2012, 10:30:28 pm »
The factors that decide what kinda foundation you use are:
- how much weight each post will carry
   - what spacing will the post be
   - what is the span on your roof
   - what live load does your area have to meet
   - what dead load does your area have to meet
        - I don't know if your area requires you to meet a code or not
-what is your frost line
-what is you ground psi
-some areas have to meet different wind loads, which can require different kind of foundations
-what is the crush for the kind of wood/ size wood that you'll be using

  Feel free to im me if I can answer any questions for you.  Milling and logging are hobbys for me, I'm a builder/ contractor by trade.
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« Reply #52 on: February 02, 2012, 10:11:41 am »
A neighbor of Edward Zimmerman delivered the EZ JR tow Package to me yesterday.  ;D 8) Was a very nice guy, with a good firm handshake. 

We loaded the tow package into the back of my truck, and it was not all too heavy.  I recommend having help with the axle section, not terribly heavy – but a little awkward trying to do alone.

Here is some pictures of the $400.00 Optional Tow Package for the EZ Boardwalk Jr. from EZ Boardwalk Saw Mills http://www.ezboardwalk.com/
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It appears to be brand new as described, never used.  It does have some dirt on the tires.

Seem to be very solid and all bolts appear to be already in place.  As picture shows, it is painted black with white rims. 

There are some runs in the paint, but that will not affect its performance. 

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« Reply #53 on: February 02, 2012, 10:35:07 am »
Yes, we get the picture.
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« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2012, 10:39:41 am »
Ain't life grand?  But you missed one view--directly overhead.     ;D
 
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« Reply #55 on: February 02, 2012, 10:57:45 am »
Sorry for the excessive pictures :-[, just trying to show the different parts up close to get a sense of what you are getting...
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« Reply #56 on: February 02, 2012, 08:48:27 pm »
Somethin is missing. I think it will be blue and black and have 2 other sets of wheels and a whole lot more picture worthy stuff. Let us know when you find it please.  ;D  PC
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« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2012, 08:57:22 pm »
Gday

Dont worry about the pics the boys where just stiring you up Mate ;) :D ;D Pauls dead on we cant wait to see pics of the mill mounted on it and Jr on his way home with dad Mate ;) :D ;D ;D 8) 8)

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« Reply #58 on: February 03, 2012, 12:38:02 am »
Those tires still have their fuzz on  ;D

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« Reply #59 on: February 03, 2012, 09:23:16 am »
Paul, definitely something missing!!!!!  But, it may be found TOMORROW!! We are working out payment arrangements.  He agree'd to accept a personal check, as I would like to track my expenses in case I decide to make this a business.  But he called yesterday saying he would really rather have cash as my checking account is out of state.  He is worried his bank will put a hold on the funds of $4,500.00 for up to 7-10 days.   ???  I really don't feel comfortable taking that amount of cash to somebody's home that I have never met...  Will be talking with him again today to see if we can speak with our banks to verify they will not place a hold on the funds. 

Meadows, I know they stirring me up!  Just wait til' I get my equipment, gonna be like a picture tornado coming out the Ozarks aimed directly for the Forestry Forum!!!  Lots of sawdust and tree's will be casualties of the storm.  :D

Amax, they are brand new straight from EZ Boardwalk to me!  The fuzz will be gone after they get attached and towed three hours home (hopefully tomorrow)! 

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« Reply #60 on: February 03, 2012, 09:30:17 am »
Maybe a cashiers check will fix the trouble and you get to keep a copy of that. If you werent doing it on a Saturday most banks can arrange a wireless transfer. Well good luck anyway, and be careful out there on the road, You may get quite a following with a new sawmill behind your truck. PC
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« Reply #61 on: February 03, 2012, 09:44:50 am »
Wireless? or Wire Transfer?  Never heard of a wireless transfer  ;)  I wouldn't mind a following, i'd feel like a parade leader  8)
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« Reply #62 on: February 03, 2012, 09:47:57 am »
Dose he & yourself do internet banking and do a direct deposit  ??? thats one way off doing it  ;) or you could do part cash part check  ;) Dad n I drove about 700+ miles to go pick up the 8-20 Lucas with $10k cash on us and the most I have had on me at any one time when doing business was $15K I can understand you being a little wary of it but I think asfar as your deal goes you would be fine if you went that way  ;)



Meadows, I know they stirring me up!  Just wait til' I get my equipment, gonna be like a picture tornado coming out the Ozarks aimed directly for the Forestry Forum!!!  Lots of sawdust and tree's will be casualties of the storm.  :D


I figured you where onta it ;) I and afew others here I reckon are looking forward to seeing you hit er hard  ;) and we love pics Mate  ;) ;D ;D 8) 8) 8)

with the tires just check the pressure in them before you head off on the drive home I dont want to see you getting a blow out Mate  ;) Are they tubless or tube but having the spring packs helps with that alot as I use to tow a Vermeer stump grinder w/o springs and tubless tires alot and that was a pita with getting flats but we never had a drama with it after we put tubes in it Mate ;)
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« Reply #63 on: February 03, 2012, 02:42:29 pm »
I'm with Paul on this one. I'd see if the seller would take a cashiers check. And no matter how you pay make sure you get a reciept with all the serial numbers on it signed by the seller. When we were selling springers off the farm this is how we handled things, covered our tails and the buyers. ( No cattle don't have serial numbers but they do have vacanation tag numbers! ;D  )

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« Reply #64 on: February 03, 2012, 03:00:42 pm »
If I was the other guy, not knowing you from anybody, I would demand cash, and cash only.  A lot of banks are putting holds on cashier checks same as personal checks anymore.  If your gut tells you to be cautious, then listen to it.  Good luck, try and sleep tonight.
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« Reply #65 on: February 03, 2012, 03:22:54 pm »

   

I would just grab the cash and go get that machine. I suppose you have talked with him
by phone and you are going to his home so it seems likely he can be trusted. Not like
meeting someone if an off-beat location for the exhange. I feel the same as He does.
I don't like to wait 7-10 days for a check to clear and wonder if it will. And banks do
usually put a hold on cashiers checks because they,too, can be no good.
   You have also been in contact with the Boardwalk maker so seems that there should
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« Reply #66 on: February 04, 2012, 12:17:29 pm »
Well did ya get it huh?huh? huh?
Anticipation is just killing me.
You are probably sitting it up just outside and sawing some of those sweet lil cedar logs already and we just have to wait.  ;D 8) 8) 8)


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« Reply #67 on: February 04, 2012, 12:28:30 pm »
Heading to get it now... Be back 8 or so hours!
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« Reply #68 on: February 04, 2012, 12:46:42 pm »
Good luck and have a safe trip! I know I don't have to tell you this, but don't forget the photos. ;)

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« Reply #69 on: February 04, 2012, 07:09:03 pm »
Another hour and a half and JR will arrive at his new home.  Will need pictures of JR and the proud dad.  Of course that could be delayed while the new one is settled in and has a good place to bed down. 

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« Reply #70 on: February 04, 2012, 07:37:51 pm »
Hope all went well! Can't wait to see the picts!
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« Reply #71 on: February 05, 2012, 06:00:51 am »
Hope all went well! Can't wait to see the picts!

What David Said  ;) :) :) :)
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« Reply #72 on: February 05, 2012, 09:44:04 am »
 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Finally made it home!  Phew, was a loooong day yesterday!  We thought we'd be home by 5, and did not make it back until after 8.  Was a lot of fun though!  Dropped kids with babysitters and spent the day with my beautiful wife - and got my tools!  Couldn't ask for much more...  ;)  I'll keep the pictures to a minimum... for now! 

Bought some magnetic trailer lights and reflectors for it right away.  But...  The drive home was a little scary, the sawmill was swerving quite a bit any time we went over a hill or bump.  Any suggestions to minimize that?  I live in the Ozark Mountains, I can't avoid hills! 

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« Reply #73 on: February 05, 2012, 10:27:00 am »
 That machine looks like new. A great find!!
On the swerving part, you have a narrow wheelbase and the load seems like it
would be a little top heavy causing it to swing side to side. Just be sure you have
tires inflated to maximum preassure and find the speed that seems the most stable.
And from what I can see you might could move the wheels back a little under the mill.


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Re: Anticipation, it's killing me.
« Reply #74 on: February 05, 2012, 10:40:24 am »
Slingshot, it is only a year old. Looks brand new, just a little dirty (I'm gonna clean all the tools real good, condition them, then add some wax on certain spots.  The wheels are bolted on the frame where they were designed... It may just be how my truck sets loaded with the planer and unisaw (extremely heavy)?

Anybody add an electric start to the recoil motors? Is it hard or worth it?  Also, I plan to attach 4-6 jacks to the frame to level.  Any specific jacks recommended?

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Re: Anticipation, it's killing me.
« Reply #75 on: February 05, 2012, 10:43:06 am »
If you move the saw closer to the back of your pick up, putting more weight on the ball, that should stop it form swaying.
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« Reply #76 on: February 05, 2012, 11:15:56 am »
Way to go, Ozarkian 8) Sweet looking machine!
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Re: Anticipation, it's killing me.
« Reply #77 on: February 05, 2012, 11:46:56 am »
Thanks!  I am starting a new topic (pictures!!!)  ;D - you can see it here: http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,56044.0.html "Me encanta mi nuevo aserradero - I love my new Sawmill! EZ Boardwalk Jr"

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Re: Anticipation, it's killing me.
« Reply #78 on: February 05, 2012, 11:48:17 am »
You might try turning the axle 180 degress and let the flex part of the axle go to the back and the solid part of leave spring to the front. Also I added the threaded rod and nut from 6, 15" basement lift jacks from Lowes to my Jr.  I put 4 on each corner and 2 in the center. It gave me 4 1/2" of adjustment to level up the mill. I would do the rest with blocks. If you go back to EZ boardwalk, he will sell you just the leveling feet, which is a coarse acme threaded rod. It withstands the dirt better and lets you adjust from the top side of the mill while reading the level. Good luck.
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« Reply #79 on: February 05, 2012, 11:53:40 am »
Thanks Fil!  You wouldn't mind showing some pictures of how you attached and placement would ya?  ??? 

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« Reply #80 on: February 05, 2012, 11:59:31 am »
Wouldn't mind at all. However I traded the Jr. back to EZ boardwalk with 4.5hrs on the hr. meter. After I got it home and got started, the neighbors started bringing me longer and bigger logs. Instead of buying an extension, I traded it back in for the 40 size. I will look around and see if I have any pics of the leveling feet. There is an hr. meter that can be added to that motor very easilly. It it kinda nice to keep an eye on maintanence schedules.
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« Reply #81 on: February 05, 2012, 12:39:03 pm »
You might try turning the axle 180 degress and let the flex part of the axle go to the back and the solid part of leave spring to the front.
Agreed, looks like your axle is installed backwards. The solid pivot is usually toward the front.

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« Reply #82 on: February 05, 2012, 01:15:22 pm »
About the swaying issue. What has been said is true. Trailer axle helps to be to the rear as much as possible taking overall length into consideration. Put the saw head up as close to the front as you can to put as much weight as your truck hitch can handle. Some trial runs will help you learn where to place the head to stop the swaying. Also with all the weight of your planer and stuff out of the bed will make difference. Good luck. bg

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Re: Anticipation, it's killing me.
« Reply #83 on: February 05, 2012, 01:28:27 pm »
The drive home was a little scary, the sawmill was swerving quite a bit any time we went over a hill or bump.  Any suggestions to minimize that?

You might check the toe-in. Should be 1/16" to 1/8".
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« Reply #84 on: February 05, 2012, 02:34:48 pm »
Trailer ball height will also effect sway.

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« Reply #85 on: February 05, 2012, 03:42:29 pm »
Could also be that the pickup was over loaded and that it was swaying . scouter Joe

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« Reply #86 on: February 05, 2012, 04:01:48 pm »
You guys are correct. The spring hangers are supposed to be at the rear of the spring. It was mentioned of toe in. It may have toe in already built into it and being turned 180 degrees out could mean for a trailer that wants to sway. The manufacture could tell you if it has toe in built in already or check it yourself. bg

 


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