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Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« on: January 19, 2012, 08:28:10 pm »
     Awhile back I got in on the generous offer from this company to try out a couple of their bands.  I promptly trashed one on a log full of nails.  It was a surprise to me when James from Cooks Saw offered to send another one to let me give it a real tryout.
     I recently did that in Slash pine (SYP) and Cypress.  These were pretty dirty logs.  (Around here "dirt" really means "sand.")  Tough on blades.  I was truly impressed with how well this blade held up.
     Some time back I bought a used Cat Claw sharpener and setter.  I tried to set it up the other day and found I was missing some parts.  Called Cooks to order the parts; they'd ship shortly.  I wanted this stuff working RIGHT NOW, so I took a ride out there the next day to get the stuff.  They had the parts waiting for me when I walked in.
     I was highly impressed with the ladies in the office, both on the phone and in person.  They were knowledgeable about the equipment and very helpful.  I left with parts lists and operating instructions; all things I didn't have.  And even though I didn't buy the equipment from them, nobody mentioned anything about a price!
     Tried to get things working and was still having problems.  I didn't figure there was anything wrong with the machinery.  Operator error, no doubt.  Monday morning I called early and got a sharpener expert on the phone as he walked in the door.  He got to start his week off helping some newbie figure out what I was doing wrong.  And it worked!
     I also ordered a dozen new bands and a cam for some of my others.  I was told they were a bit behind on orders and it would most likely be today before they'd be ready.  No problem; It'll be first of the week before they're here.
     I was pleasantly surprised to walk in this evening and find a box of new blades and a new cam waiting on my doorstep. 8)
     This is the sort of service that makes a company a pleasure to deal with.  Thank You, Cooks Saw!

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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 09:30:41 pm »
Did you see any helicopters flying around?
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 07:58:24 am »
   Bill...lucky you! I'd love to get a tour of the place myself, except I'm afraid one of those big red mills would follow me home! ;) 

What is this leisure time of which you speak?

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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 08:17:27 am »
All though I am  happy WOODMIZER owner, I have always heard nothing but POSITIVE things about COOK'S SAWS.
There's good people everywhere! Just look on the left of this page!   smiley_thumbsup
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 09:23:19 am »
I have a Wood-Mizer mill and a Cook's Cat Claw sharpener.

I have never had anything but excellent service/help from either company!

I would guess that dealing with any of the other companies that sponsor the Forestry Forum would be the same.
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 01:01:38 pm »
Bill,

Thanks for giving us an opportunity to serve you.
If there's anything else you need, just let us know.

Take care,
James Osmond
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 01:09:52 pm »
Awesome, that's what I love about this site, everyone is here to help everyone, especially the sponsors.  smiley_clapping smiley_clapping
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 08:48:59 pm »
You know the old saying about there's always two sides to every story?  Well, here's mine.  Just a few weeks ago, after much research and question asking, I was ready to give Cook's my credit card number for a new sharpener and dual tooth setter.  The package was on sale.  I asked for the second cam to be for the Wood-Mizer blades because those are the only ones I own.  I was told that the sharpener came with only the Cook's cam and if I wanted the Wood-Mizer cam it would be the original price which was $400.00 more.  I was told that I could buy the Wood-Mizer cam for the $175.00 cam price after I took delivery of the order.   No amount of talking would change this woman's mind so I ended the call and then called back later and asked to speak with Tim Cook.  His exact words to me were "we aren't going to do anything that will promote a competitor's blade."  The rest of the story is, they actually did promote a competitor's blade because now my blade strategy is to run Wood-Mizers until they die and then buy new ones.   
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 08:57:44 pm »
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 08:58:19 pm »
It never pays to be snotty about a competitor. They got what they deserved in my opinion.

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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 09:01:44 pm »
I got a Cooks blade a few weeks ago on trial. I used it, sharpened it on my Wood-Mizer sharpener, with the WM cam. It followed the profile better than the WM blades do on the first sharpening.
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 09:22:03 pm »
I know that Cook's is a good company with good customer service and I know that they build quality, rugged equipment.  That's why I wanted to buy their setter / sharpener.  They sent me the demo DVD and a quote for shipping so they knew that I was interested.  They offered to send me a trial blade also and I told them that if it turned out to be half as good as they claim, I'd most likely buy more .  But, I still had other blades that needed sharpening.  Nothing I said could change their mind.  No "laundry to air" beenthere, just facts.
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2012, 09:50:12 pm »
That's really hard for me to believe musikwerke.

I bought my Cat Claw sharpener and setter in '09, and they installed a cam and even profiled the rock (stone) to sharpen Wood-Mizer .045 x 1¼ x 158; 10° blades.

I explained to them that I had only ever used Wood-Mizer blades and they said they would set the sharpener up to what ever blade I desired.

As a matter of fact, Cook's still owes me a cam, because the sharpener comes with "your choice" of 2 cams.  Only problem was I don't know what I want for the 2nd cam.  Cook's still has it on record that they still owe me a 2nd cam.

My Opinion:  They are good people to deal with!
CHUCK - Retired USAF and now a Mobile Sawyer
1995 Wood-Mizer LT40HDG24 (Onan)
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2012, 09:53:38 pm »
 smiley_gossip Don't ever do something that you can't talk about on the Forum.
 
It's good we have a place to talk about Good and Bad things about where we spend our money.

If MUSIKWERKE has had a bad experience with COOK'S it sounds like to me he explained it in a nice way.

Just saying.....

I respect opinions of those who have had a bad experience. That's what this place is all about.
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 10:02:03 pm »
I have a Woodmizer saw, Cooks sharpener, Baker edger.

Everyone has been awsome to work with, I've toured Cooks facility, albiet several years ago then again 2 yrs later, they were upgrading their manufacturing process and I'm sure still are.

Thinking about things I need some new stones I'd better call.

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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2012, 08:43:00 am »
You know the old saying about there's always two sides to every story?  Well, here's mine.  Just a few weeks ago, after much research and question asking, I was ready to give Cook's my credit card number for a new sharpener and dual tooth setter.  The package was on sale.  I asked for the second cam to be for the Wood-Mizer blades because those are the only ones I own.  I was told that the sharpener came with only the Cook's cam and if I wanted the Wood-Mizer cam it would be the original price which was $400.00 more.  I was told that I could buy the Wood-Mizer cam for the $175.00 cam price after I took delivery of the order.   No amount of talking would change this woman's mind so I ended the call and then called back later and asked to speak with Tim Cook.  His exact words to me were "we aren't going to do anything that will promote a competitor's blade."  The rest of the story is, they actually did promote a competitor's blade because now my blade strategy is to run Wood-Mizers until they die and then buy new ones.
  • The sharpener sale states that it comes with a Super Sharp cam as standard
  • A second cam can be purchased for $125.00 (Lenox, WM, etc.)
  • The standard sharpener that comes with any cam of your choice is $400 more, but anyone can still buy the sharpener that's on sale, plus buy an additional cam at $125.00 and still save money over the standard sharpener cost.
I am familiar with all that happened and you're right as there are two sides to the story. No one company can please everyone, and the beauty of it is for everyone is that this is a thriving market with a lot of quality companies that we are all free to choose from.

James
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 08:48:22 am »
As "PAUL HARVEY" used to say....."Now you know 'THE REST' of the story". "Good Day".
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2012, 11:29:37 am »
I bought a Cooks band wheel and bearing upgrade for my Burg sawmill.  What a difference this made and I don't have to change those pesky bearings or tires anymore.  Thanks Cooks.
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2012, 05:51:45 pm »
I think they are alright folks.  I have one of their AC 36 mills and the cat claw sharpener sys....Banjo
Cooks AC 36--Prentice 210C--Kubota M7040 with loader--Case 580 K with extendahoe--Case 850C dozer--Int 1700 series twin cylinder dump/log/flatbed truck--logging arch--2 logrite mill sp.--Cat claw sharpening system--And a bulldog to make sure it all stays here.

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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2012, 08:43:09 pm »
I bought a cook's cat claw sharpener about 4 yrs ago and I have never had any problems with it. Recently I bought a set of steel wheels from cook's for my LT 40 wm and I am very impressed with them. Tim cook said in his video if you want to really see what your mill is capable of doing, go to steel wheels and let me tell you that wasn't no lie. It really increased my production and I dont break blades as often, and I dont have to mess with those stupid belts anymore. When I ordered them I talked to james and he was really helpful and friendlly. Thanks cook's saw!
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Re: Long-winded comments about Cooks Saw
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2012, 09:59:14 am »
Mostly good experience with cooks with a few minor glitches.
These were with band breakage at the weld.
James has been a fine example of good customer service.
I bought 20 or 30 blades a few years ago and they included a cam for my wm sharpener at no cost.
I am just finishing up sharpening my falls worth of both WM and Cooks blades.
The cam works well after a slight mod due to interference with the index pivot.
James sent me several blades which he told me are a different steel than the ones I had a problem with.
Haven't used any yet, but with our mild weather every week or so may fire the mill up.
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