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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2012, 07:52:23 am »
Gday

Theres a reason Im looking for an older Michigan or Hough and Magic and Tractorman hit the nail on the head older loaders and equipment work like they should !! Sure they might not be fancy and have aircon cabs or seats and relief valves for that matter  ;) but they where built and built well and are simple ;):):):) And if you look after older gear and better yet spend some time and tlc on it and give her a new set of tires and a fresh coata paint  before you press it back into service you will have a great machine last years look good with no debt   ;) ;D ;D 8) 8)

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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2012, 08:06:33 am »
 I think that Kubota has too much reach and the front axle should be about a foot forward.  Kinda looks like a old 8n Ford, most worthless loader tractor made.   Steve
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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2012, 08:13:21 am »
I have a Metavic 1400 to lift heavy logs but one option you might want to consider is to use your 3pt?   I have hydraulic forks on my Agroplus that can lift about 4ft high.  It is rated at 4,000 lbs and the rear end of the tractor is rated to lift over 7,700 lbs. While it is not the best option to back up and lift all the time it has come in handy more than a few times for heavy loads.
 

 

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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2012, 05:51:36 pm »
Don't matter how big the tractor is there will be logs that are bigger.

 

 

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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2012, 06:32:57 pm »
Equipment manufacturers strive to make their machinery fool-proof.  The trouble is that fools are so darned ingenious.  I take it as a personal affront that my JD 3203 bucket will not lift the front axle off the ground for tire work.  Regards, Clark :)

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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2012, 09:18:16 pm »
Look back at  My altered 2910 and note bucket just clears ft tires. Whole loader is set back 8 in and oversized to boot can pick 20 in by 18 ft fir log but at times it b a toss up of who has got who :) :) :) :) :o
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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2012, 06:53:33 am »
Chris is right about the older machines I used to have an old Michigan with forks,as awkward as an ex-wife at a cookout,but would lift 3 or four big logs.What you will spend on those new wonder yard tractors you could buy a used articulating loader and have a real machine. Frank C.
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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2012, 06:57:12 am »
 Or a good sized skid loader.    Steve
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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2012, 09:44:38 am »
I have a Kioti DK40 Hydro and the loader will lift 2800 lbs at the pins. I have been extremely happy with my Kioti and have found that they do not overestimate their lift capacity.  As mentioned you will always pick on a log too big for your tractor. On really big logs(27' long) I have just lifted up one end at a time onto the mill and that works fine.

There are 28 6x6x8' cedar logs in this bundle weighing between 90 and 105lbs each. It lifted it but was all it wanted:
 

 
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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2012, 09:48:22 am »
MOTORSEVEN......Is you tractor REMOTE CONTROL or did you get off to take the pic?  :)

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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2012, 09:59:36 am »
I got off to take the picture....had to do it ,,,,,I was actually surprised it lifted the stack :D

No, not for sale, these are the logs I am building my house out of:
 

 
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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2012, 05:27:03 pm »
The kubota L5240 with HST is a nice tractor, your loader should be the LA853 model. 

I believe that the LA853 loader is rated to lift 853 kg * 2.2 lbs/kg = 1879 lbs, that may be the rating at bucket center to full height.  Your loader will probably lift more than that, but not to full height.  Check the manual for your loader, it will probably show data curves of lift capability vs height for what lift point. 






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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2012, 08:37:24 pm »
As stated by others, the loader designs on todays compact tractors all seem to be more forward and stick out further from front axle than older designs. In their advertising they point out to "ergonomic" benefits with the lower/sloped hoods and redesigned loader frames which allow you to see better whats going on in front of you but it does create a bigger moment force to pivot with a reduced lift capability. Always some tradeoff. The Deeres are not much different these days either since after the "XX10" the loader series was redesigned and looks more like the New Hollands and Kubota. My JD is the series before the XX10 being a 4600 and it had an 800 lb lift advantage over the same tractor frame size Kubota at the time. Main reason I bought the JD back than but no longer much difference among the big name brands these days for loader designs. They all seem to have a little less loader capability but you can see whats going on. 

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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2012, 09:12:12 pm »
I also use forks that are a little short (but that how I got them for free) at 31" long but allows the weight to be applied further back.  Works well to drive in ground and pry rocks out of ground, no shortage of rocks where I am. Got the forks from neighbor for free since where he worked there were worn down too much to keep in service. I cut off short the thin tips and evened out their length.
 

  

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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2012, 09:37:59 pm »
 

  When i had tractor fever i looked at all the new hydos and bells n whistles and i knew i needed something heavy duty but the prices were to high, so decided to go used and old, I kept in mind that i could resale and then work my way up to a new tractor. Well that was 10 years ago and i still love my manual 2240 orchard style JD it lifts 3000# and dose all the same things a 25000 dollar rig will do. and i paid 9,000. for it and have 3,000 in repairs the last 10 years. Its worth 10,000 if i were to sell it tomarrow. So used equipment you dont lose much.
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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2012, 10:03:58 pm »
Like Motorseven I have a Kioti that I am very happy with.  It will lift 95% of the logs I get.  I think it is rated for 2600lb at the pins, and it for sure can lift a 2000lb log.   

 
Of course I have the advantage of having an uncle that lives around the corner that has one of these if there are any I can't lift with the tractor.
 

 

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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2012, 10:05:44 pm »
And he can also lift your tractor.   ;D
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« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2012, 10:09:33 pm »
with a 2000lb log on it ;D
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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2012, 10:39:37 am »
I had a John Deere 4310 (32hp)HST 4x4 and I just upgraded to a Kubota L5240 (54hp) HST 4x4.The rated lifting capcity was almost double on the new tractor but it does not seam to lift much more if any than the old smaller JD. What is everyone using and what can you lift weight and log size?

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Just some follow up, I did a pressure test on the loader and the releif valve is set about 500 lbs to low. It is at the dealer getting shims installed as we speak.I will follow up after I try it out.
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Re: Tractor Lifting Capacities
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2012, 11:16:26 am »
Yes, those relief valves do seem to vary among identical machines...good call on checking it.
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