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Tammy and her tree of glass.
« on: February 07, 2004, 05:26:39 pm »
We have been working on a new kitchen for 2 or 3 months now. Its getting close to finished. Of course, the design has a theme of trees and forest. Even the floor tiles we found have ferns on them. I had the bright idea of leaving one of the cabinet doors without a panel so we could do our own glass work for it. I tried a faux stained glass panel which the family likes but I dont. Tonight I started on an etching process. Problem is, Tammy got roped into the tedium of it. Cutting a very detailed stencil from the drawing I did on the computer. If all goes well we will have a one of a kind glass tree when we are done. I'll post some picture when we get everything finished. Here is one of Tammy concentrating on cutting out the Tree. Glass is cheap, so we are trying several things. (only 3 bucks for chunk cut to size)




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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2004, 05:54:56 pm »
Now that's  8)
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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2004, 07:28:12 pm »
That kitchen's gonna be too nice to use ;D ;D  Looking forward to the finished product 8)
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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2004, 07:33:22 pm »
I always worry about glass around my house, especially if it shatters. So, I like to use polycarbonate for projects. It is very hard to scratch and very clear. I made some windows, a bay and some double hung, from it. You can buy it cheap at U.S. Plastics and it has a higher ignite point (800 degrees) than wood (600 degrees). FWIW.

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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2004, 08:18:27 pm »
Broken glass is not going to be an option here. Tammy says so. She spent 4 hours cutting that tree out. I have a little more design work to do on the panel before we etch it. To much work in it to risk sandblast etching so we will use chemical.

rebocardo, do you have any informtion on how these polycarbonates react to processes such as etching?
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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2004, 08:43:31 pm »
I built my wife a bookcase for Christmas year before last and etched the glass in the doors. We have done some etching at school on some of the kids projects. Really sets them off.  Fortunitly we use a computer and vinyl cutter to make our stencils. You still have to pick out the pieces where you want the etcing to take place, but its easier than making a complete stencil as Tammy is doing.  We use a product called armoretch.  Your going to have a really nice door for your kitchen.  
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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2004, 09:25:48 pm »
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are you going to stage blast / acid etch your glass for that 3D effect?
If it can't be nailed or glued then screw it

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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2004, 05:11:36 am »
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are you going to stage blast / acid etch your glass for that 3D effect?


Well, I am not sure what you are asking. We are simply going to spead the etching chemical on the plate, wait 3-5 minutes, then rinse it off.
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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2004, 05:24:16 am »
Very nice Tammy and Jeff, your kitchen is really going to be one of a kind. 8)
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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2004, 07:55:01 am »
My wife, the artist, and I, the labor, have done a fair amount of etching with sand blasting.  Works well, and we get some good 3d effects, but, we use 1/4 inch glass to head off any problems.  May be too much for a cabinet door.
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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2004, 08:51:06 am »
We got to do a project like that in Chemistry Lab class when I was in high school.  We were given a piece of glass which we melted a thin layer of wax over. Then we took some needle disecting tools and drew a picture or our name or whatever we wanted, in the wax so that the glass was bared.

We then built a Flourine generator which produced a green gas that turned into hydroflouric acid and it etched the bare glass.  It was slow and took over 24 hours.

It was a really cool experiment.

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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2004, 10:22:01 am »
You could also use a bead/sand blaster. There are few chemicals that scare me more the hydrofluoric acid. If that's what you use Jeff be DanG careful and use goggles, gloves, and rubber apron. You don't want to get ANY on you, and I mean ZERO!

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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2004, 12:36:46 pm »
It says it contains Ammonium/Sodium Bifflourides
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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2004, 01:05:31 pm »
That sounds like hydroflouric acid etching to me :P

When gas etching, stencils don't work too good.  The gas gets under the paper and leaves fuzzy lines or even allows everything to be etched.

You might have to do as we did in High School and use wax.  Even then you have to make sure that the lines are very clean.

Mark is right about being careful. Be careful ;D

I wish I were there.  It sounds like a fun project.
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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2004, 01:40:55 pm »
I am following the directions of the product. It is called armour-etch.
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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2004, 01:53:55 pm »
  Are you going to actually use this kitchen when you' re  done .  :D  All those neat and cool things you 're doing .
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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2004, 01:55:19 pm »
Were using it now. :D It was fair game as soon as the sink got installed.
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2004, 03:57:32 pm »
Well, Its done. (the etching).  I would have been happier if it would have been more pronounced. We may try again when Tammy regains the use of her hands after cutting that stencil. :D  She likes it, but she is not quite as a picky as I am.

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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2004, 04:08:07 pm »
Really neat, Jeff.  How about telling us how the procedure went and the times involved.   :)

What do you think, Wildflower?  Do you always get stuck with the grunt work? :D
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Re: Tammy and her tree of glass.
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2004, 04:29:53 pm »
That sure turned out nice Jeff.  Tammy must have a steady hand to do all that cutting. What material did you use for your stencil?  Hey those hickory cabinets are a knock out.  Did you build them?
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