TimberKing Sawmills



Please visit this sponsor

The Largest Inventory of Used Chainsaw Parts in the World

Toll Free 1-800-582-0470

LogRite Tools

Lucas Sawmills

Forest Products Industry Insurance

Norwood Industries Inc.

Eggimann Motor and Equipment Sales Inc.

Sawmill & Woodlot Magazine

Wood-Mizer Band Blades

Carolina Machinery Sales is a machinery dealer that specializes in the Wood Processing Industry.

Wood Processing equpment. Splitters, Processors, Conveyors

Your source for Portable Sawmills, Edgers, Resaws, Sharpeners, Setters, Bandsaw Blades and Sawmill Parts

Portable Sawmill and Planers Made by Logosol.

EZ Boardwalk Sawmills. More Saw For Less Money!

STIHLDealers.com sponsored by Northeast STIHL

Lawn-Gardening-Tools.com

Hutto Wood Products

Woodland Sawmills

Margeson Insurance

Forestry Forum Tool Box

Author Topic: Outdoor Furnace Rookie Needs Help!  (Read 775 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Xylophile

  • member
  • *
  • Posts: 14
  • Gender: Male
  • I need to edit my profile!
Outdoor Furnace Rookie Needs Help!
« on: February 05, 2004, 04:00:27 pm »
Hello All!

I have recently put a locally fabricated outdoor wood furnace into service.  The firebox opening is 4' by 4', 5' deep.  it is surrounded by a thousand gallon water jacket.  This furnace will be used to heat a commercial dry kiln (25-30,000bf).Well seasoned pallets are the main fuel.  Can anyone offer helpful hints regarding the use of this contraption?  It is my first experience with an OWF!

The door is already seen as a weak spot.  It bows a little when at higher temperatures, allowing smoke to escape around the top and bottom.  The door gasket "fell off" soon after we started using the furnace.  It was re-glued, but didnt last long.

Many Thanks,

Walter

Online beenthere

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 14175
  • Location: Southern Wisconsin
  • Gender: Male
  • EIEIO
Re: Outdoor Furnace Rookie Needs Help!
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2004, 04:15:21 pm »
I wonder why the smoke doesn't go up the chimney. Seems there would be a draft (incoming air) around the door openings where not sealed. Any pictures?

south central Wisconsin
 It may be that my sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others

Offline Corley5

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 4793
  • Age: 42
  • Location: Wolverine, Michigan USA
  • Gender: Male
  • Wolverine, Michigan
    • Whittaker Farms
Re: Outdoor Furnace Rookie Needs Help!
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2004, 05:00:10 pm »
Try putting an extension on the chimney to make it draw better
Burnt Gunpowder is the Smell Of Freedom

Offline Neil_B

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 455
  • Age: 41
  • Location: Madoc, Ontario, Canada
  • Gender: Male
Re: Outdoor Furnace Rookie Needs Help!
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2004, 04:17:29 am »
What brand is it?
I would be in contact with the company to check it out. May be just a matter of replacing the door. Under warranty of course.
Could be also that you are trying to start too much of a fire to get the water temp up. Try a smaller more gradual fire if this is the first time fire. Then once the temp is up, you can fill the furnace to the hilt.
Timberwolf / TimberPro sawmill, Woodmizer edger, both with Kubota diesels. '92 Massey Ferguson 50H backhoe, '92 Ford F450 with 14' dump/ flatbed and of course an '88 GMC 3500 pickup.

Offline Xylophile

  • member
  • *
  • Posts: 14
  • Gender: Male
  • I need to edit my profile!
Re: Outdoor Furnace Rookie Needs Help!
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2004, 05:14:30 am »
Sorry, Beenthere!  No photos yet.  I'm a rookie with the digital camera, too.

Corley 5:  The 10" chimney is 22' off the ground.  It starts 6' off the ground.  Trouble is,the furnace is backed up to an industrial building that is about 24' high.  We have intended to add a couple sections to get the chimney above the roofline.  But other things demanding attention ...

Neil_B:  The furnace was manufactured locally, has no brand!  This is not the first fire for this stove.  I've been breaking it in for three, maybe four weeks.  Everything I'm doing is a learning process right now!!

Offline OneWithWood

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 4472
  • Age: 58
  • Location: Unionville, IN
  • Gender: Male
  • showing the past to the future
    • RWT Biodiesel
Re: Outdoor Furnace Rookie Needs Help!
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2004, 05:15:18 am »
I would definately keep in contact with the builder to resolve the door gasket problem.
I burned pallets in my wood fired boiler (WFD not ot be confused with WMD).  The biggest problem I had was the disposal of all the nails!   What do you plan to do with the nails and staples?
One With Wood
LT40HDG25, Woodmizer DH4000 Kiln
www.rwtbiodiesel.com

Offline Chet

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 4185
  • Age: 58
  • Location: Land of da YOOPERS Iron River, MI
  • Gender: Male
Re: Outdoor Furnace Rookie Needs Help!
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2004, 05:59:39 am »
I would defiantly get the door fixed. You will not be able to control furnace temps, because of draft air entering around the door. This can be especially dangerous if you are running a pressurized system.
I am a true TREE HUGGER, if I didnt I would fall out!  chet the arborist

Offline Mark M

  • In Memoriam
  • *
  • Posts: 1688
  • Age: 58
  • Gender: Male
  • Wilton, ND
    • Some of My Pictures
Re: Outdoor Furnace Rookie Needs Help!
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2004, 06:21:29 am »
If I remember correctly the chimney should be 3 feet above anything within 10 feet. That is part of your problem, but like Chet says the door leak is top priority.

Online beenthere

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 14175
  • Location: Southern Wisconsin
  • Gender: Male
  • EIEIO
Re: Outdoor Furnace Rookie Needs Help!
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2004, 08:12:46 am »
Seems it would be very difficult to control a fire fueled with just pallets. They are dry, like kindling, lots of air space, and likely burn very fast (borderline to an explosion).  Fast burn, very hot (ie warped door), and slow to warm up the water jacket.  1000 gallon water jacket seems like a lot, as I heat my house with a wood-fired hot water unit that has just a 9 gallon water jacket (true, you are trying to heat a large kiln, but my unit is equivalent to a 100,000 BTU furnace, and your 1000 gallons of water is 100+ times my 9 gallons). The boiler ends are not 'contained' by water, and the door end has a cast-iron door that if not careful, can get very hot. My system works great, but I don't think flash fires in it would do any good (slow to heat the water and too hot on the parts of the unit that are not water).  

I think considering another wood fuel source to supplement the pallets would be worthwhile to successful burning. Better draft as mentioned also important. How often is the chimney cleaned, or do you clean it with a roaring fire?  Still, smoke out the door cracks is indicative of problems with draft.

Other questions I would have is how much surface area between the heat chamber and water jacket do you have to transfer the wood heat to the water, and how many BTU equivalent do you expect from this unit?
south central Wisconsin
 It may be that my sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others

 


Testing New Bottom Sponsor Area

Saw Anywhere!