Putting together a log truck

[snowstorm]

get wood hauler to tell the story about the guy that bought a new six wheel truck with loader and tag first load of pine he hauled it scared him so bad he had to stop and puke. he tells the story better

[pinehillstacker]

Mainiac,
I wouldn't totally give up on the Jimmy, the oil issue might not be too serious.  What has happened to me before on my '71 Chevy pickup, and what I would guess happened to it, is the fuel pump diapraghm blew out, filling your oil pan full of gas.  As long as they didn't take it on any long distance drives since this happened, all it should need is a new fuel pump, and new oil/oil filter, and you'll be good to go.  By the way, I'm brand new to the forum, so howdy all.

[smwwoody]

Could be a blown Power valve in the Holly Carb also

[jocco]

Mainiac Many has thought about it but anything less than a tri axel does not seem to work. ( a wheeler cannot haul long length wood because the rear axel is over weight) Ever look into the trailer mounted loader rigs??? They haul couple cord. One guy did an economic study and with time, travle etc they were counter productive. Same went for a 1 ton delivering firewood.

[mainiac]

Problem with the GMC is that it is at a dealer not a private sale. Hard telling what the history to it is. Plus all the emision stuff has been removed or altered. A few other issues too. They have a couple of F800s in my price range that I am looking at. Something will come my way at some point. Just got the old C65 set up on the landing and will start hauling tomorrow.

[mainiac]

Jocco- My business plan invoving this truck includes the fact that my firewood processor only takes upto 14' stems. I have a 2 cutters within 5 miles of me for the next 2-4 years. These big truck drivers want $25 or $30 per cord to move the wood those 5 miles. The only thing I do this time of year is plow snow so I figured why not fill in between storms and cut out the drivers cut. I have done 75 cord this year and want double the output and if the sales are there and the cash flow is there I would not mind tripling this years numbers. Delivering 12'-14' to people that want to process 2-3 cord on their own would be bonus.

The way I am hauling right now is a pain because I have to rig my one truck for plowing then when the I am done with the storm, I have to unrid (plow and sander) so that I can use my dump trailer. Plus that takes the loader away from the processor. There a couple of other business ideas that I am going to pursue that a road worthy loader would play into

I do not want to make trips to the mills. To many others with big trucks to do that, but taking the occasional log or 2 to the local sawyer yes.

While I do appreciate the advice on going big, I still think there is the niche market for the small truck in my area if I set up right.

[EricR]

I use a international 4700 low pro for hauling logs.  Its got a 21,500 gvw.  Im about 11,000 empty. And  i can carry 2 cords legally.  Its got a 10 foot dump body on it.  I load it with a kubota.  I tried to haul 12 footers with it and had too much overhang and that made the rear sag a lot even with out a full load.  I went to 10 footers and that solved my problem.  I guess what im saying with a light truck is make sure you get something with a log enough wheelbase so you dont have a lot past the rear axle.  I would think an awsome rig would be a 26000 gvw truck with a rear mounted loader and pull a 5 ton trailer behind you.  Then you could have a load split between the two .  In Mass a trailer 5 ton or under is a freebie and doesnt count towards your 26000 GCWR limit.  My truck has the t444e (7.3 diesel)  and its slow  It does the job but its slow.  Im guessing the gm gassers are slow as well.  Do yourself the favor and get the biggest engine you can.  My truck also came with the dt466 and that would make a ok truck an excellent truck

[bill m]

Mainiac, Don't give up on the single axle truck idea. I put 3 cords on my truck and have sold over 60 cords this past fall. A lot of my customers do not want a big triaxle load of wood all at one time.

[mainiac]

Bill, not giving up, just regrouping the hunt. I got a bit of an idea from someone today that has me thinking and just need to figure out what truck I need to follow through with that idea.

[Ironwood]

FYI, A sweet NON-CDL set up would/ could be a F450 15-16k GVW with a 16' bed (bunks) crane on the back and a 10K trailer behind, that would give you approx, 2 ton capacity on the deck of the truck , and 3+ ton on the trailer (perhaps more if you had a custom light unladen weight trailer custom built, as most 10k trailers w/ decks weigh 3000-3500lbs.)  I bet you could get close to 2000-2500 lbs unladen. Remember keep it under 26K to avoid CDL, you would still need a biannual Medical Card (no biggie)

 Remember over weight trucks are STEEP fines, over weight trailers MUCH less.
 
 The Hiab 035 on my 550 only weighs 1000 lbs and lifts 5500lbs  "close", put a light grapple on it and it would be sweet. Older cranes are heavy, newer ones more engineered=lighter.

Ironwood

 

  

  

  

  

 

 

[jocco]

Jocco- My business plan invoving this truck includes the fact that my firewood processor only takes upto 14' stems. I have a 2 cutters within 5 miles of me for the next 2-4 years. These big truck drivers want $25 or $30 per cord to move the wood those 5 miles. The only thing I do this time of year is plow snow so I figured why not fill in between storms and cut out the drivers cut. I have done 75 cord this year and want double the output and if the sales are there and the cash flow is there I would not mind tripling this years numbers. Delivering 12'-14' to people that want to process 2-3 cord on their own would be bonus.

The way I am hauling right now is a pain because I have to rig my one truck for plowing then when the I am done with the storm, I have to unrid (plow and sander) so that I can use my dump trailer. Plus that takes the loader away from the processor. There a couple of other business ideas that I am going to pursue that a road worthy loader would play into

I do not want to make trips to the mills. To many others with big trucks to do that, but taking the occasional log or 2 to the local sawyer yes.

While I do appreciate the advice on going big, I still think there is the niche market for the small truck in my area if I set up right.

Just trying to give you ideas of some things i have seen that did not work. A wheeler with loader might be best for you for what you describe. Trying to circumvent the cdl law might not be good either as there is a lot of debate on that.

[jocco]

Also did i mention hose trailers with a loader from patu, medevac etc??? If you have a dump truck one guy bought a loader (licenced as a crane) and used the dumptruck and just loaded with the crane. Just an idea

[ahlkey]

 

 

I have a F650 rated at 26,000 lbs and also pull a custom tri-axle trailer with a 1400 Metavic loader.  Overall combined rating is 40,000 lbs which allows me to pull 3-4 cords of sawlogs for my own use.  However, when doing full pulp or firewood truckloads I always have it hired out.  It just is not economical for me nor is it worth the liability risks.

[treefarmer87]

that metavic is one great setup nice rig