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Offline 2308500

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Re: How much a week?
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2011, 11:10:27 pm »
i know here in nova scotia, if one of our producers (we are truckers) had that much wood roadside, we would *DanG near kill ourselves to get it to the mill this week.

in our operation we strive to keep our crews cleaned up and the landing empty by every friday night

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Re: How much a week?
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2011, 11:29:49 pm »
i know here in nova scotia, if one of our producers (we are truckers) had that much wood roadside, we would *DanG near kill ourselves to get it to the mill this week.

in our operation we strive to keep our crews cleaned up and the landing empty by every friday night

I wish thats what would happen here, Thats just one of 5 piles I have waiting, and i'm putting up 4-5 loads aday.. Our trucker will not catch up..
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Re: How much a week?
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2011, 11:38:24 pm »
How much the mill can cut is planned in to how many loads they will take from a producer.
I know the Bush ranch, well!, I will see you there. I have heard good things about the crew coming in.

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Re: How much a week?
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2011, 04:37:48 am »
i know here in nova scotia, if one of our producers (we are truckers) had that much wood roadside, we would *DanG near kill ourselves to get it to the mill this week.

in our operation we strive to keep our crews cleaned up and the landing empty by every friday night

I wish thats what would happen here, Thats just one of 5 piles I have waiting, and i'm putting up 4-5 loads aday.. Our trucker will not catch up..

Not sure what it is like down there but up here about 95% of the contractors don't get paid for any wood until it is delivered to the mill, even if you are sub-contracted to cut the block by the mill.

Take into account extremely fickle markets, a varied wood basket and no advances and you can see why most contractors push to have the landings cleaned up.

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Re: How much a week?
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2011, 06:23:19 am »
Yeah, I couldn't imagine being that far behind on deliveries. As Jamie said, you only get paid on delivery around here. But that's still no guarantee because some mills are months behind on paying and the last few years a lot of mills close and leave you broke. ;)

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: How much a week?
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2011, 10:53:02 am »
That is always a possibility. The markets here are not any better.
The out look is shaky also. The Pine Beetle where he is working is devastating larger areas. "the Dead Zone". It is likely one of the main mills will close in the next few years.
Currently our mills saw 2.5 million trees annually. There are 4 million fresh bug hit trees.
So there is a glut of logs and trees to cut. That is just the bug trees, we still need to thin our forests to prevent the beetle.

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Re: How much a week?
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2011, 12:32:28 pm »
Ten to 12 cord a load,he has a job for a while. How long does it take for a round trip?
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Re: How much a week?
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2011, 05:42:20 pm »
Ten to 12 cord a load,he has a job for a while. How long does it take for a round trip?

2.5 to 3 hours Depending on Weather
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Re: How much a week?
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2011, 09:53:07 pm »
How much the mill can cut is planned in to how many loads they will take from a producer.
I know the Bush ranch, well!, I will see you there. I have heard good things about the crew coming in.

Ah yes, Pat said their would be a Forester out there

Not sure what it is like down there but up here about 95% of the contractors don't get paid for any wood until it is delivered to the mill, even if you are sub-contracted to cut the block by the mill.

Take into account extremely fickle markets, a varied wood basket and no advances and you can see why most contractors push to have the landings cleaned up.

Its the same here, Contractor only gets paid for whats delivered, not whats sitting decked in the woods. I keep hearing "It's Money in the bank", Don't know how much the boss likes that answer. But our mills pushing us to get done and get moved to Lower ground on private for the heavy snow months..
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Re: How much a week?
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2011, 10:27:57 pm »
Yeah, I couldn't imagine being that far behind on deliveries. As Jamie said, you only get paid on delivery around here. But that's still no guarantee because some mills are months behind on paying and the last few years a lot of mills close and leave you broke. ;)

Not sure what it is like down there but up here about 95% of the contractors don't get paid for any wood until it is delivered to the mill, even if you are sub-contracted to cut the block by the mill.

Take into account extremely fickle markets, a varied wood basket and no advances and you can see why most contractors push to have the landings cleaned up.

I don't envy the bigger operation when you start talkin about money and payment.  Always heard...The bigger you are, the less money you make...I can't offer my opinion.  But it sure is nice to just pull in the yard, argue about scale and BF'ages, head to the office and get paid!  I can only imagine the stress of just covering payroll and operating costs while waiting a month or 2 for payment.
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Re: How much a week?
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2011, 08:46:10 pm »
we ged paid by the ton and producer/landowner get paid by the ton so the quicker it gets to the mill, the more we get
not so bad in the cold months but 5 percent is 5 percent no matter how cold it is, cut wood will continue to dry... some

we run 3 trucks andstrive to get 1800 to 2000 tons to the mill every week on a 9 hour round trip including loading and unloading.   thats why its tough if you slack off.

its slower in the summer so another truck is not cost effective over the calendar year

 


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