Author Topic: I'm sorry for all of this (Read 1658 times)

Jeff · « **on:** November 23, 2011, 10:20:20 am »

I owe several people and the forum as a whole an apology. I've become short and ornery with almost every post. This change over has not went well for me. I know it needed to be done, and I had to really build the courage to dive into it. At times the last two days I have felt completely defeated. I'm up here at the cabin without the pat on the back from Tammy saying don't worry, you'll get it, and it just makes me feel terribly alone in this mess. I know I am not, you are all here, and that is why I need to say I am sorry for my attitude and for the problems this has caused all of you while trying to enjoy the forum.

D Hagens · « **Reply #1 on:** November 23, 2011, 10:35:17 am »

Not a prob Jeff, must be tough doing all this from a cell phone

BTW, what happened to the in the collaborated thread

I replied to it and POOF it went away

trapper · « **Reply #2 on:** November 23, 2011, 10:41:44 am »

The more I see what is going on the more respect I have for you and how you are handeling it. I would have lost it long ago. From what I see the fourm is working well enough for most users. Take thursday off and try to relax a bit.
Marv

Magicman · « **Reply #3 on:** November 23, 2011, 10:43:50 am »

If you had spent this time deer hunting, you would have had to dress it. OK, well maybe that would have been easier and a lot less bloodier.

Anyway, your dedicated efforts have not gone unnoticed. How 'bout a pat on the back and assurance from all of us that you have our complete admiration and support.

Den Socling · « **Reply #4 on:** November 23, 2011, 10:56:54 am »

Take it easy, Jeff. Everything is working well enough. Go hunting. The tweaking can wait.

Bandmill Bandit · « **Reply #5 on:** November 23, 2011, 11:14:26 am »

I think you haev done and amazing job for doing it off/through your smart phone. Just shut that thing off for now and go enjoy the hunting and the great out doors. we will al be here on monday and you will be too IF you go take some quality YOU time.

Dont worry ! I am pretty sure most of us like what is in the works.

Enough for now. Go get yourself a deer or what ever it is you have tags for.

Warbird · « **Reply #6 on:** November 23, 2011, 11:28:09 am »

Jeff, first off, no apology needed. I think the majority of us can understand. Second off, next time it gets bad, call me. I can help! Third off, you've actually done a great job. These sorts of changes are a big deal and you've done very well.

rbhunter · « **Reply #7 on:** November 23, 2011, 11:43:11 am »

Jeff I think we can all say that we understand. We have all dealt with things in our own lives and sometimes get short. I want to let you know that the way you run this site is amazing. The way you have this site put togather and the way you run it is far better than any other site or forum I have been on. I really appreciate all you have done with this site and the people who are members here. You are very talented with great values.

I really appreciate all you do for this site.

CHARLIE · « **Reply #8 on:** November 23, 2011, 11:50:43 am »

I certainly understand and I know from experience of the frustrations. That's why you won't hear from me until the smoke clears. You already know the big stuff and the little stuff can always wait. As long as the Forum is up and running, take some time for yourself.

ronwood · « **Reply #9 on:** November 23, 2011, 11:53:07 am »

Jeff,

Anytime you do a major update it can be stressful. I don't know of one time if that I did not feel stressed about doing changes and upgrades on a server. Hang in there. Please feel to ask for help if you need it. I would be happy to help also.

Ron

Woodcarver · « **Reply #10 on:** November 23, 2011, 11:59:51 am »

No need for apologies, Jeff. I spent 13 years as an applications programmer in a mainframe environment. I went through some major upheavels with equipment upgrades, database changes, etc. I always had the assistance of least one other experienced programmer. I think you've done a remarkable job as a "one man band", so to speak.

Thanks again for all of your hard work making the forum the great place it is.

whittler · « **Reply #11 on:** November 23, 2011, 12:04:15 pm »

As for us old people, this is all pure magic! You're the Wizard that makes all this magic happen. Sometimes a walk in the woods and a commune with nature is all we need to soothe our stress and calm us down, at least it works for me!
Whittler

fstedy · « **Reply #12 on:** November 23, 2011, 12:08:07 pm »

Hang in there Jeff often the most challenging projects come put the best. However it ends up, I know from your past that it will be much better than the previous.

sandhills · « **Reply #13 on:** November 23, 2011, 12:23:22 pm »

In my honest opinion you're the last person here that should be apologizing, you do a great job that benefits a VERY large number of people. I would never even pretend that I understand the work and time that is put into something like this so here's a pat on the back from me

. Now get out there and go hunting, once I take the time to upload Java I want to see who got the biggest deer (I'm kinda proud of this one

).

jim king · « **Reply #14 on:** November 23, 2011, 12:38:07 pm »

I think you should not be worried over improving the site they way you think is correct.

I can be a lot of help sending emails and searching on Google. Other than that I call the neighbor girl to help me out of the other problems.

I wish I could do what you are doing , it is all a mystery to me.

redbeard · « **Reply #15 on:** November 23, 2011, 12:39:34 pm »

Sometimes you have to just walk away and take some time for yourself and then regroup and attack the issues the next day or three. You have a outstanding forum with thousands of members that surely understand. Everything is working for me. I like the changes it is alot fster. You have done a great job on the change over. Take a break enjoy!

AvT · « **Reply #16 on:** November 23, 2011, 12:48:38 pm »

If you figure you got all the security issues under control just put a sign at the top that states "Construction Ahead Please be patient" because it seems to be working fine to me. take a break and work on it again next week or somthing.

thecfarm · « **Reply #17 on:** November 23, 2011, 01:09:20 pm »

Just call me Jeff,I can help.......with a pat on the back.

isawlogs · « **Reply #18 on:** November 23, 2011, 01:17:47 pm »

First off... You need to apoligise to anyone for doing what you are doing , some need to cut you some slack, if they have issues with the looks or things not quite up to pare well its there little issue. Ya can't fix every thing all at once, it will take a few tries to get it all going as it was or better. ( I know you are wanting to please all , some just ain't pleasable

)
It's all good Jeff, take time to smell the roses or look at the turkeys

If a pat on da back is what ya need

PC-Urban-Sawyer · « **Reply #19 on:** November 23, 2011, 01:32:28 pm »

Jeff,

No apology required.

You're doing it the hard way, using a smartphone and in public so everyone can see the warts and all. I had a lot worse time upgrading our Exchange server recently and I did it by building a new box while the old one was still serving and then switching them out. And I still had some real problems and I've worked in IT for twenty years...

Take a break, enjoy Thanksgiving, go hunting, go stand in a quiet place and let the spirit talk softly to your soul. Nothing happening here that's worth beating yourself up.

Herb

paul case · « **Reply #20 on:** November 23, 2011, 01:50:46 pm »

aw well my advice is ....
Take them to the woodshed!
Give them complainers their comeupins.
Delete their posts.
Give them a new name so they cant find their page!
Put their usernames in a big bowl and pull out a new one each day to beat up on.

Second thought, do what I do. Take it all in stride. The only people that cause much trouble usually only need something to complain about. They like to pick on folks that are too busy working to do anything about their petty complaints.
Don't let it get you down. Those who are dealing you greif have probably never had their candle burning at both ends with someone trying to light it in the middle.
I appreciate your efforts and I think the changes look great. PC

reride82 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 23, 2011, 02:21:23 pm »

Jeff,

I would like to echo everything that everyone here has already said, everything is working fine, so go take a break Jeff and find your center again. I stressed out over the build of my Belsaw this spring, summer, and fall and this forum helped relieve the stress and problems I had with that. I am sure that I am one of many members that are very grateful for this forum and everything you do. If it is down for a few hours or days, our lives will still go on and we will learn the new layout and methods in the coming weeks as you progress.

P.S. -And to those that are giving you a hard time, just PM their addresses to neighboring members and us that understand what you are going thru, and we will take care of them for ya(In a forestry forum approved fashion of course)

Cedarman · « **Reply #22 on:** November 23, 2011, 02:24:28 pm »

Jeff, don't worry, be happy, for at least a few days. So you think you got problems, my wife just informed me that our favorite cured ham supplier is out of ham until Friday.
From this turkey to you, enjoy your hunting.

reride82, so you're saying those that love grits get shut out and those that hate them gotta eat em if they are misbehavin'?

reride82 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 23, 2011, 02:31:00 pm »

Cedarman,

Haha, I wouldn't make someone eat grits even if they were misbehavin....

How did we get on grits anyways?

crtreedude · « **Reply #24 on:** November 23, 2011, 04:12:03 pm »

Jeff, I figure if I am not being asked to do it, I am not going to complain...

Cedarman · « **Reply #25 on:** November 23, 2011, 04:22:02 pm »

reride82, food takes one's mind off one's troubles. And tomorrow is food day which we should give thanks for. If we are eating, we can't be complaining.
Making some people eat grits would be some kind of punishment, but for others having them just out of reach would be torture. I guess you're right, too severe.

ely · « **Reply #26 on:** November 23, 2011, 04:24:31 pm »

i dont have any problems with whats been done to the site. it all works swell for me. havent tried any pics but then i never was really good at that either.
time will tell. put that smart phone on the table and go shoot at something.

Shotgun · « **Reply #27 on:** November 23, 2011, 04:55:03 pm »

Hunt, Jeff, hunt... Great job on the forum, Jeff! It's looking good, and will only get better. We've seen it time and time again.

Norm

Ernie · « **Reply #28 on:** November 23, 2011, 05:37:29 pm »

Jeff, what's the apology for, as I see it everything is fantastic, I really don't know how you do it and retain your sanity. You do retain your sanity don't you

T Welsh · « **Reply #29 on:** November 23, 2011, 05:42:59 pm »

Jeff, no apologies needed,If it wasnt for you we wouldnt have this forum.Tim

Corley5 · « **Reply #30 on:** November 23, 2011, 06:12:32 pm »

It's all good

mooleycow · « **Reply #31 on:** November 23, 2011, 06:13:55 pm »

you don't owe me no apology. YOU are doing a GREAT job and service to us one and all. this is a wonderful site, with wonderful understanding people. it's a place we can go anytime day or night to read, jest, and share because of all you do. i just came out of hurricane irene, i spent over 80 hours in a command center when it went down. i am a gov't. liaison person. i know stress, take some time, enjoy what you enjoy. we will be here. holidays are stressful enough. take some time, enjoy what you enjoy.

treetech · « **Reply #32 on:** November 23, 2011, 06:47:34 pm »

Jeff......This site is awesome and so are you for providing it to everyone! Thank you very much.

mooleycow · « **Reply #33 on:** November 23, 2011, 06:57:55 pm »

ps happy thanksgiving, we are giving thanks for your hard work and being here

martyinmi · « **Reply #34 on:** November 23, 2011, 07:04:07 pm »

Jeff-
I'm only an hour from you-you want me to bring you up some Clinton County venison and a 30 pack of Bud? You're doing an awesome job. I'm barely intelligent enough to notice any difference.

Marty

Autocar · « **Reply #35 on:** November 23, 2011, 07:29:50 pm »

For me the forum is a place I can talk the same talk other loggers/sawmill owners talk and I enjoy it very much. So I understand when you have to put a stop on a thread because it's getting out of hand. So you don't have to apologize to me, just go to your deer stand and relax and enjoy the early winter days. Lifes to short to sweat the small stuff

Rooster · « **Reply #36 on:** November 23, 2011, 09:16:51 pm »

Jeff,

Most of us regulars to the forum, who appreciate what the forum is really about, could probably go a few days without it, and still be able to get out of bed with some sort of alternate reason to go on living. It's those who don't understand that are quick to complain.

Here is a similar situation that we all might get a kick out of.

Thanks Jeff,

Rooster

pigman · « **Reply #37 on:** November 23, 2011, 11:33:13 pm »

Jeff, if it makes you feel better I accept your apologies

Brad_bb · « **Reply #38 on:** November 24, 2011, 12:17:51 am »

What've you got to be sorry about Jeff? You're doing all the work. I'm sure it isn't easy nor easy on your patience.

Brucer · « **Reply #39 on:** November 24, 2011, 01:58:32 am »

I've been involved in system upgrades before, in a large organization with plenty of full-time programmers. I've done the planning and testing and helped schedule implementation. I've seen what can go wrong, and how badly it can go wrong. So from that perspective ...

I can read new posts.
I can make new posts.
It works.

You're doing good, Jeff

.

AvT · « **Reply #40 on:** November 24, 2011, 02:17:32 am »

Awsome posts rooster and Pigman

and everyone else of course,,, just those two made me laugh out loud...

nomad · « **Reply #41 on:** November 24, 2011, 06:51:33 am »

Sorry? What for? 'Cuz it ain't getting even better than it was, fast enough? Yeah, right! You're doing great. Happy Thanksgiving!

jdtuttle · « **Reply #42 on:** November 24, 2011, 07:00:48 am »

The forum seems fine. If your at your hunting camp, hunt. This can wait

Bill Johnson · « **Reply #43 on:** November 24, 2011, 07:58:42 am »

I have to echo what everyone else has said there is no need for you to apologize for anything.

Keep up the great work we all understand the changes don't come easy. Now put down the phone and go hunting.

Roxie · « **Reply #44 on:** November 24, 2011, 10:12:01 am »

You get a big "atta boy!" from me for the "In Memoriam" link! Beautifully done!

We know that you suffer when things aren't perfect, but really, I'm just so glad you let me hang around.

Peter Drouin · « **Reply #45 on:** November 24, 2011, 12:12:22 pm »

I think your doing a good job Jeff. And have a happy Thanksgiving. And to all members as well,

Left Coast Chris · « **Reply #46 on:** November 24, 2011, 01:11:02 pm »

Thanks Jeff for all of your work, especially during the Hollidays! It is interesting how the human mind works. We are programmed to notice things that are different..... so came the shock and oohs and auhs regarding the new format. But our ability to adapt and allow our minds to be conditioned made most of us feel right back at home after a few uses of the new format. No big deal. Have a great Thanksgiving. I usually do the prayer at our gatherings so Im going to lead volunteers to mention what they are thankfull for this year. Im thankfull for the Form and your efforts!

Woodchuck53 · « **Reply #47 on:** November 24, 2011, 03:14:08 pm »

Happy Thanksgiving. Your doing fine. Heck some of us can barely turn the thing on. And look at what you are doing. Great job. Enjoy your holidays and get back to the family. Now where can I find a red shirt here at work???

mikerat · « **Reply #48 on:** November 24, 2011, 04:58:24 pm »

Don't be sorry your site rocks and there is always bumps in the road! I don't know which end of the mouse to squeeze! I can't imagine you running a saw mill I would have guessed that you worked for NASA or IBM.

Mike

OneWithWood · « **Reply #49 on:** November 24, 2011, 07:52:15 pm »

Don't worry, be happy

The work you have done so far has really improved the look of the forum. I have no doubt you will figure out what needs figuring out and we will all benefit by it.

After all we aren't trying to find the crash archive!

JD350Cmark · « **Reply #50 on:** November 25, 2011, 01:31:04 am »

Jeff,

Thank you..

Chris Burchfield · « **Reply #51 on:** November 25, 2011, 10:37:06 am »

NAR, No Apology Required.

And shame on you for thinking there was need in the first place. Super job, well done, big pat on the back. I can not begin to understand everything it took from energy, time, nerve, knowledge and skill. I've never not enjoyed opening this website to see what folks are doing. You provide the link(s) allowing us like thinkers to share. Thank you!

Mooney · « **Reply #52 on:** November 25, 2011, 10:44:23 am »

Jeff, you're awesome!

"And that's all I have to say about that."
Forest Gump

Warren · « **Reply #53 on:** November 26, 2011, 07:32:59 am »

Jeff,

Like several others above, I make a living managing large scale software upgrades and installations. Even with a huge cast of "supporting characters", they are never perfect. Get a cup of coffee. Take a walk in the woods. Go out for a meal. Take a nap. Relax. It will all come together.

We appreciate the work that you do to keep the forum up and running. And, we appreciate you.

Thank you,

Warren

Phorester · « **Reply #54 on:** November 27, 2011, 08:23:45 am »

You're doing good Jeff. Don't let'em get you down. You'll resolve the concerns as you get to them, they don't all have to be fixed in one day.

scsmith42 · « **Reply #55 on:** November 27, 2011, 11:48:05 am »

Quote from: rbhunter on November 23, 2011, 11:43:11 am

Jeff I think we can all say that we understand. We have all dealt with things in our own lives and sometimes get short. I want to let you know that the way you run this site is amazing. The way you have this site put togather and the way you run it is far better than any other site or forum I have been on. I really appreciate all you have done with this site and the people who are members here. You are very talented with great values.

I really appreciate all you do for this site.

Well stated and I couldn't agree more.

Jeff, we don't take enough time to thank you and Tammy for the wonderful gift that y'all have given us. It truly has been a life changing event for many of us, and in a very positive way.

Scott

pineywoods · « **Reply #56 on:** November 29, 2011, 02:08:12 pm »

Jeff, you have no room to feel sorry about anything.. I've been involved in major softwre upgrades that had all the resources of major corporations behind them, and didn't go nearly as smoothly as this one has. Add to that, you have done it with nothing more to work with than a smart phone. Absolutely AWSOME ..

Warbird · « **Reply #57 on:** November 29, 2011, 04:54:48 pm »

Really, Jeff should start a thread titled, "You are welcome for all of this!", cause these changes have been pretty cool.

old joe · « **Reply #58 on:** December 02, 2011, 08:55:02 am »

Jeff,
You hold yourself to a very high standard. We all get the benefit. You're not exprcted to be perfect 'til you can walk on water. That gives you til at least spring as ice doesn't count

Joe

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